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[Bragr]

I find these sorts of topics fascinating and this Daniel Schmachtenberger guy has a lot of fascinating ideas around this. He talks about stuff like how we have moved into a more luxurious safe state of society (post the great depression and world wars) and that the modern western world stagnated in most areas (apart from tech) and has stopped paying attention to important cycles and potential problems.

Young people are not being funneled into positions of power, so our leaders are outdated and lack the skill set needed for their job. We don't have clear directions, in the past you had major important projects like the building of the railroad, getting clean water to the country, or modernizing great cities, instead, we are all confused by a multitude of problems we only understand on a low-level and resort to attacking each other over opinions that we barely understand ourselves.

 

[jason10mm]

Last name Schmachtenberger, can't take seriously...

 

[jason10mm]

But seriously, give it a few hundred years and I suspect historians will consider this time as one of chaos and societal collapse.

Conversely, it's possible the new leaders of the world will write of this time as throwing off shackles and rising to preeminence.

It's all in the spin you put on it, probably.

 

[ManaByte]

 

[kingfey]

Why give them these positions, when they work fine as slaves?
Modern humans are designed to work as perfect work slaves, without them noticing anything.
Everything is tied to how much you make, not how much contribution you do for the society.
This allows certain group of people to consolidate power to themselves. And nothing can stop these people at this age.
Too many people, and they can make you disappear easily.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

I've come to a different conclusion, and forgive me for my lack of tact and candor, as I'm not a doctor nor do I have a surname consisting of someone smacking a keyboard and adding berger to the end, but here it is:

Same shit, different coat of paint.

Do you think, you in general, that there was fucking ANYONE in say...ancient Egypt or Greece or feudal Japan who was like...

CAN'T GET BETTER THAN THIS, NO SIR

?

I mean, in times past we had terrible health care standards, blood letting to bring balance to people's humors when they were like schizophrenic or some shit. Speaking of shit, it was all over the streets and any settlement larger than ten people likely smelled like the inside of my asshole after white people taco Tuesday. Crime was rampant, you went to the next district or city over to meet someone for trade and got gangbanged on the road by caravans of literal bandits. Plagues spread and quarantine was the only way to handle it, making leper communities, some of which still exist today.

I mean, I know OP wasn't saying the past was the shit, but every era had it's bullshit, and every era had it's devout that were sure the end was coming in their lifetime, be it from corporeal means or divine. Every society has had issues with wrong people in power, and social divisions. I think there was a study that some guy who's name escapes me that someone more intelligent and resourceful than me can probably corroborate that said based on historical studies, the lifespan of a developed nation has been pretty accurately plotted out by data and America is nearing a great collapse based on the time frame indicated by that, but I mean...

The developed nations could burn in Civil or nuclear war tomorrow, and the winners/survivors would just build a new place on top of the smoldering Ruins. People are born, raised, work, fight, and die, and they're replaced like the expendable resource we are. Everyone on this forum is a spilled ink stain on a footnote in the index of human history and in 5,000 years, no one is going to give a fuck and this forum's archives are probably going to be unreadable because of how quickly language evolves.

Or hell, maybe a meteor will collide with the planet and kill us all in a flash fire before we finish the sentence in our heads. We're a fucking grain of sand in the universe and our presence or absence in the totality of space wouldn't be noticed. I feel like if people took this knowledge we toiled for decades and centuries to amass and used it to gain perspective, a lot of these issues would fizzle out, but then again, we have people eating bleach and shaking their ass in front of their phone so they can get the most heart emojis, so yeah. Probably fucked. I agree with OP now. Thank you for changing my mind. Disregard this entire post.

 

[chromhound]

Facebook and "clout"

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I've come to a different conclusion, and forgive me for my lack of tact and candor, as I'm not a doctor nor do I have a surname consisting of someone smacking a keyboard and adding berger to the end, but here it is:

Same shit, different coat of paint.

Do you think, you in general, that there was fucking ANYONE in say...ancient Egypt or Greece or feudal Japan who was like...

CAN'T GET BETTER THAN THIS, NO SIR

?

I mean, in times past we had terrible health care standards, blood letting to bring balance to people's humors when they were like schizophrenic or some shit. Speaking of shut, it was all over the streets and any settlement larger than ten people likely smelled like the inside of my asshole after white people taco Tuesday. Crime was rampant, you went to the next district or city over to meet someone for trade and got gangbanged on the road by caravans of literal bandits. Plagues spread and quarantine was the only way to handle it, making leper communities, some of which still exist today.

I mean, I know OP wasn't saying the past was the shit, but every era had it's bullshit, and every era had it's devout that were sure the end was coming in their lifetime, be it from corporeal means or divine. Every society has had issues with wrong people in power, and social divisions. I think there was a study that some guy who's name escapes me that someone more intelligent and resourceful than me can probably corroborate that said based on historical studies, the lifespan of a developed nation has been pretty accurately plotted out by data and America is nearing a great collapse based on the time frame indicated by that, but I mean...

The developed nations could burn in Civil or nuclear war tomorrow, and the winners/survivors would just build a new place on top of the smoldering Ruins. People are born, raised, work, fight, and die, and they're replaced like the expendable resource we are. Everyone on this forum is a spilled ink stain on a footnote in the index of human history and in 5,000 years, no one is going to give a fuck and this forum's archives are probably going to be unreadable because of how quickly language evolves.

Or hell, maybe a meteor will collide with the planet and kill us all in a flash fire before we finish the sentence in our heads. We're a fucking grain of sand in the universe and our presence or absence in the totality of space wouldn't be noticed. I feel like if people took this knowledge we toiled for decades and centuries to amass and used it to gain perspective, a lot of these issues would fizzle out, but then again, we have people eating bleach and shaking their ass in front of their phone so they can get the most heart emojis, so yeah. Probably fucked. I agree with OP now. Thank you for changing my mind. Disregard this entire post.

You dont even have to get that extreme with violence or healthcare. Before toilet paper was invented, people wiped their ass with corn cobs, leaves or some other retarded item like mini mops on a stick. People survived.

The only key difference I can see versus other generations is widespread and public social media. So everyone is hit with news 24/7, the media focuses on negative/criticism articles for the most clicks, and people compare themselves to others for fame and fortune like no other era. Some people can take it. Some people cant.

It's kind of like Bart Simpson in that episode where he goes nuts with "Overload. Pleasure Overload". Bart's now got so much free time because school got shut down for the day he's going ape shit at all the crap he can do all day (overstimulation and stupidity).

 

[TheInfamousKira]

You dont even have to get that extreme with violence or healthcare. Before toilet paper was invented, people wiped their ass with corn cobs, leaves or some other retarded item like mini mops on a stick. People survived.

The only key difference I can see versus other generations is widespread and public social media. So everyone is hit with news 24/7, the media focuses on negative/criticism articles for the most clicks, and people compare themselves to others for fame and fortune like no other era. Some people can take it. Some people cant.

It's kind of like Bart Simpson in that episode where he goes nuts with "Overload. Pleasure Overload". Bart's now got so much free time because school got shut down for the day he's going ape shit at all the crap he can do all day (overstimulation and stupidity).

Social media is DEFINITELY one of the contributing factors to the current shit state of things in my opinion. I've mentioned it here before, but Google the blog post about the Dead Internet Theory if you haven't read it before. It has 4Chan speak, but forgiving that, it's a pretty in depth analysis of the state of communication. Basically, sourced from real factual evidence, social media like Facebook/Twitter etc, have an algorithm that's specifically designed to inundate you with material you disagree with and other people who disagree with the same material. It's never too much, or enough to make you leave the platform, but divisive enough to get the average user to engage, but engagement is where they get the most bucks.

Furthermore, it keeps track of the things you engage with, your stance on every little bullshit thing, and promotes products or content based on that. Ever notice how disconnected various websites used to be, but now everything can be signed in via your Google account? It's really fucking nuts.

Also, as you said, you're surrounded by everything all the time with social media. Stories that would be local 20 years ago are instantly projected across the country/world, and the public "correct," opinion is established before you've even finished the news article.