Walter White Walker
Member
They appear to have an irrelevant station in the Seattle area market. Just as it should be.
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The imminent conservative takeover of local news
- Thread starter Vyer
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Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
People need to take to social media, that's the new battlefield. TV is tainted now. Twitter is the new frontier.
Let's see Twitter turn a profit first before we write the old media epitaph.
It's not really an imminent conservative takeover. Sinclair Broadcast Group is, even prior to the pending purchase of Tribune, the second-largest television station operator in the US after Nexstar Media Group. In addition, many of Sinclair's stations are in the South and Midwest and they are pioneers in skirting FCC regulations. Sinclair already did it and did it years ago.
ErasureAcer
Banned
Putting forth horrible ideas to get people to be horrified is arguably better than the fluff about animals that bombards the local news now. A kangaroo in Australia gave birth, holy shit! A dog helps a blind man, no way! A cat is in a viral video, get out!
capitalCORN
Member
Let's see Twitter turn a profit first before we write the old media epitaph.
It's not about profit, but reach. Twitter already is a more solid aggregate for articles and general ammunition than any other media right now.
Neuromancer
Member
Our country is fucked. I've almost given up on it to be honest.
IamDodongo
Member
Good thing no one over the age of 30 watches tv anymore.
If only the people under 30 voted.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
This is why I can't take people seriously when they complain that liberals just need to reach out to conservatives.
We're living in the late stages of a 30 year assault on the very concept of truth which has created an entire conservative media and economy to shelter and radicalize the right in this and other western nations. It is a purposeful propaganda operation and the idea that it could be countered if liberals were less "smug" and "reached out" is nonsense.
These people have essentially figured out how to use money to hack political psychology and turn the country against itself. But, no, John Oliver and Steven Colbert are definitely the reason conservatives are so alienated...
How do you even begin to counter this shit? We're so late to recognizing the reach and efficacy of this campaign that it seems like we've already lost. So now we're just going to have propaganda pumped directly into every media market in the country in the guise of traditionally non-partisan local news.
Fuck.
There's an awful lot going on is the problem. You simply can't hope to bridge a gap without reaching out. But you are right, what we're dealing with is the effects of brainwashing that latches onto the same mental hooks as faith and fandom and peddled through all available primary avenues of communication.
It's not a question of whether liberals should be reaching out to conservatives, should be trying to not come across as smug elites, it's a question of even finding rational conservatives anymore in a sea of people whose entire mental faculties are locked into approaching politics like a cross between Pro Wrestling and American Football.
I think there is a true difference, but this is the fundamental challenge in all areas of life when dealing with groups of people who have a combined impact as a unit but who may range from violent extremists to open minded moderates, and the sad fact is that as long as moderates continue to align themselves with the extremists, they are willfully imparting them legitimacy through their inaction.
I find it hilarious that anything in America be considered "left of center" on the political spectrum. You have center to center-right with the Democrats, and you have so far to the right you're basically in hell with the Republicans. America really needs an actual left wing party, would give voters a third choice.
Would probably need to come with some voting reform too though.
Would probably need to come with some voting reform too though.
EdibleKnife
Member
What do we do? It feels like a lose-lose situation.
I still wish somewhere there was a concise strategy to combat this type of thing for people on the ground
There are many ways to fight back against the Trump agenda and propaganda like this. From the Indivisible Guide to OurStates.org to 5Calls to the Resistance Manual to Swing Left & more. There's no magic bullet but please no one get stuck in the mire of the idea that there's nothing you can do.. Whether what we do will be enough to crest the mountain of bullshit remains to be seen but the chance is not zero and the issues to be won (or lost) are wide ranging.
GoldenEye 007
Member
I find it hilarious that anything in America be considered "left of center" on the political spectrum. You have center to center-right with the Democrats, and you have so far to the right you're basically in hell with the Republicans. America really needs an actual left wing party, would give voters a third choice.
Would probably need to come with some voting reform too though.
Different countries have different standards. The reality is that the US as a whole is a right-wing, conservative country. Running a true left wing party nationally would get destroyed.
Even then, the democratic party does adopt some left-wing policies. And even with that, they get destroyed nationally in general.
Hyperbole much mate? There's like one conservative tv news channel, one newspaper, and AM talk radio. And now this group might own a local news channel in most markets, but every market has 4-6 local news networks for people to choose between. The left still has literally everything else in the media.
Thanks for this pitch perfect example of how successful this has been. Anything not explicitly controlled by right-wing propagandists is now "the left."
Proof that steadily repeating "liberal media" for three decades will make idiots believe it.
EdibleKnife
Member
Hyperbole much mate? There's like one conservative tv news channel, one newspaper, and AM talk radio. And now this group might own a local news channel in most markets, but every market has 4-6 local news networks for people to choose between. The left still has literally everything else in the media.
"The Left" does not literally own everything else in media because we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.