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[Rockondevil]

I’ve got 3 daughters (15, 6 & 2), two of them autistic.

3 daughters of such varying ages. I don’t envy that. My one boy is enough.

 

[Mistake]

You have parent brain op. Happened to a lot of my friends too. It was like a switch flipped in them and they were a lot more easygoing. It's not so much about being adverse to new or different things, they just don't want the drama anymore.

 

[FoxMcChief]

3 daughters of such varying ages. I don’t envy that. My one boy is enough.

It’s rough, but what can I say, I love straight sex with my female wife without protection.

 

[Puscifer]

This is pretty normal, people usually slip in these types of things. All men eventually become Red Foreman lol.

I don’t think young people are the worst though. Just the stuff they like is. Kids, as a rule, are the same generation to generation just they slip in different models based off of society.

I love the idealism of kids. Let them keep it as long as possible before they have to deal with the weight of the world.

their music is just awful though. Holy crap is that bad.

They have us Charli XCX though

 

[IAmRei]

Todays generation is the worst imo, i cannot tell in details, since their negative is too much to write into.

One examples, hundred of internship try to apply to my studio, and only 11 left. Lot of them even doesnt even know how to write email. Going so far writing body of email into subject... Or proudly using AI, while they should learn something fundamental first

I cant imagine, how worse next gen later on

 

[FullMetalx117]

Yup it’s the function of loss of innocence, hope, dreams, understanding the reality we are in and accepting it. While younger people still have imagination.

Every future generation is the product of the previous generation, whether you want to accept accountability or not.

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

Delete this

I posted this in the wrong thread

Sorry

 

[Lambogenie]

Same. Life, experience and understanding can cause an attitude shift. It doesn't even have to be growing conservative, it could be others too. But typically conservative.

Others cover it. You grow up quite free and open minded. You then begin to acquire assets or a family, you begin to understand what actually works vs "follow your dreams!". You want to protect it.

The sad thing for most of the developed world now is that understanding, that responsibility comes at a much later age. Especially the dreams vs reality bit.

 

[navii]

It’s not just young people

 

[Madserb2023]

It quite normal to get more conservative as you get older. The more you have, the less you want to lose it. I was considerably more left wing when I didn't have a job, house, children etc. Even though much rarer, some people do get more left wing, however everyone I know who has is in some state of prolonged adolescents. No kids, not married, teenager type job, All day on Tick Tock. I can see more people get more left wing as people stop having children and extending their adolescent mind. Can't blame many thought. It's all gone a bit backwards.

 

[Humdinger]

I'm sure you've heard the old saying that if you aren't a liberal when you're young, you have no heart, and if you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brain. I kind of like that one, although the terms "liberal" and "conservative" are muddled lately. For example, classical "liberal" is almost the opposite of modern "liberal," and what many people think of as a "conservative" position today was mainstream, middle of the road opinion a couple decades ago.

 

[Lunarorbit]

Everyone sucks.

Boomers still roam the earth and control the govt.

Kids have literacy rates of 4th graders. They're fucking morons too.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Kids have literacy rates of 4th graders. They're fucking morons too.

Harsh if the kids are 2nd graders though.

 

[lughnasadh123]

50+ and still liberal. Well, I think so anyways. A bit more to center, perhaps, because it seems the definition of what's liberal and conservative seems to get pushed out a bit each generation.

Other than that everything is the same except for more cynicism and fatigue instead of that fresh feeling when so much was new in the world with unlimited dreams of what could be. Eventually the veil of optimism drops and you're left standing around wondering, "shit, is this all there is?". Doesn't help with a glut of bad news that gets coverage that drowns out the good that people do. It's there, but you have to look to see it.

 

[Rran]

Don't let people dump on you for having kids. I have three myself and they basically forced me to change my mentality and to live for others. It's hard, but ultimately a much more enriching life than what I had before.

 

[Lumyst]

I'm in my early 30's, and for me, it wasn't so much becoming more "conservative." We have a new awareness of the unique values, mindsets, and cultures we see through the internet connected world, and ways to communicate with people across the world instantaneously. This truly is a relatively new thing. Not all cultures value tolerance, and what disturbs me the most is what looks like a turn to intolerance of different likes and dislikes, and the institutionalized promotion of being quick to judge. Recently I've become more mindful of values, history, and the formation of attitudes and mindsets so I could understand what happened to lead to the current situation because there's actually a radically different set of attitudes and mindsets even though I'm not that much older than young adults. I ended up caring more about understanding people's values, attitudes, and mindsets than assigning dichotomous labels. I once heard that the term "conservative" is kind of a meaningless term because what matters is the values that you want to conserve. Suppose one of those values is "coexisting with those who have different likes and dislikes, and not imposing through force your own likes and dislikes or censoring likes that you don't dislike." Looking back in history, that would be a "progressive" value relative to what was before. I realize that it's not their fault they turned out the way they did, people my age and above abetted it perhaps knowingly or unknowingly through the educational practices they were told to follow, or lack of understanding the child development process (I think that one and the constant bombardment of negativity through the internet were major factors.) Education should be to teach communication and reasoning, an up to date understanding of natural science, and history taught truthfully and completely, meaning that not just negativity and bleakness but optimism and positivity is touched on as well.

For the most part it was that way when I was educated, though I also realize some things were deliberately not taught for certain reasons. It kills me to see that "it's not me, it's the children that are wrong" Skinner picture haha It's because to some extent, they are not naturally coming to be how they are, but made to be that way by people much older than them. Now I realize that in the nature or nurture view, nurture plays a huge role in how they turn out fundamentally early on, the parenting style, the one off or unique experiences, then maybe hormones is the nature part. By age 25 my emotional mind kind of calmed down on its own, then I was ready to delve into the reasons for things being how they are or aren't and to keep or refute any values I had taken for granted. I also try empathizing with others' reasoning for their conclusions, and understand that religion can be a very important thing for people. Even totalitarianism and the intolerance of differences has its reasoning (safety? fear of humanity annihilating itself? being indoctrinated to submit yourself to avoid offending someone however subjective "offensive" is? faith in a heaven on Earth?) but to me that's always going to be a form of slavery. Even if the future leads to annihilation sooner than when the Sun engulfs the planet, shouldn't the human beings alive until that point be free? Or in the case of entertainment, free to express what amuses them or pleases them, wherever it leads? To not be able to do so would be slavery of the mind. It used to be "the views expressed in this program do not necessarily reflect the views of this station. viewer discretion is advised" I'd much rather that than self censorship or trigger warnings. However, I also know that it is a power trip for some, due to social media, to bring someone down by making militant displays of offense, or for young people to see a powerful entity change something due to them. At some point though, I may have to conclude that they aren't virtue signalling for other motives, but are essentially religiously indoctrinated to, for example, not create beautiful things because someone out there could be jealous and feel inadequate or even kill themselves due to those feelings of jealousy (nevermind that said jealous person could have been taught "though shalt not covet" instead or that beauty is only skin deep, rather than lying about what's beautiful or vilifying those who create beautiful things or snuffing out the will to make beautiful things.)

Also, after seeing history repeat itself the past few years, and having more interactions with many different types of people, I realized that human nature hasn't actually changed just because we have more technology or more man made things around us, and that we aren't any different or more calm, moderate, and rational just because we are "modern." Those who strive for moderation had to have been raised or taught to value that. Even then, we are all susceptible to being swept up in passion or in others emotional manipulation. I also realized that institutions are made up of people foremost. Seriously, I recall feeling that "corporations" or "the government" were a powerful monolith when I was still in my public school bubble. Then after working for one I realized, "Oh, it's just people strongly or loosely following processes and cultures" set up before them and publicly facing through a brand or deliberate way of doing things (if it's a big established corporation). I gained an immense appreciation for the wisdom left by people from the past. Alot of ideas or values being pushed today as progressive aren't even new. "What's old is new again." So much for the Abe Simpson image too Said old man could have actually been the creator of the "new old idea." Wisdom was painfully gained by people in the past and we can avoid the bad things being made new again.

 

[jufonuk]

My view is family first charity begins at home etc.

 

[Tieno]

I don't think I get more conservative, but the older I get the more value I see in other viewpoints and the value they bring to the table.
The distinction I draw is summed up by this image.

 

[Pigenator]

Well I'm still no boomer at 30 year old but young people are getting more obnoxious as I get older.
TikTok brain rot is real and it feels like Gen Z are fucking dumb

 

[El Muerto]

I'm a new parent and in my 30s. I'm more of a centrist now than ever. Both sides cry at the stupidest shit. Young highscool/college kids and 50+ folks think they know everything and always have. Only thing i can do is make sure my kid doesnt grow up with a tablet in his hand by age 2, and keep 'em off social media, and socialize them. If the kids are the problem then blame the parents. I know good parents that dont let their kids on social media all day, and instead make them play outside and do sports. It's our job to educate these kids so they dont turn from dumb kids to dumb adults believing AI images and videos are real.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I'm a new parent and in my 30s. I'm more of a centrist now than ever. Both sides cry at the stupidest shit. Young highscool/college kids and 50+ folks think they know everything and always have. Only thing i can do is make sure my kid doesnt grow up with a tablet in his hand by age 2, and keep 'em off social media, and socialize them. If the kids are the problem then blame the parents. I know good parents that dont let their kids on social media all day, and instead make them play outside and do sports. It's our job to educate these kids so they dont turn from dumb kids to dumb adults believing AI images and videos are real.

I'm no parent, so I can only go by what I see with my nephews and nieces. They are all older now ranging from high school to university age, but way back when they were all young, it comes down to the parent you are.

Some of the kids were under strict parental control. The other parents are more loosey goosey where if a kid still dabbles with a tablet watching YT instead of dinner, the parents ask a few times and then give up.

Because all the kids grew up with the net, getting them out of the house is tougher unless the parents push them to do activities, piano etc.... If not, they'll sit at home on the couch texting, or playing MP games. And this goes for both the boys and girls equally. But I found if the parents push their kids to do activities, then the kids will take something up seriously. So it's not like the old days where all us kids who grew up in the 80s played outside, went to each other's house after school, biked to variety stores and watch a movie or play street hockey. If anything we hung out too much and parents wanted us back inside when it was getting dark. So kind of the reverse compared to now.

The good thing is the kids all get good grades. And my siblings and I did too growing up. So as long as they get good grades and looks like they are on track to be a good person with a good job when it's that time in their life, thats what counts. My parents were strict on us getting good grades and graduating and not doing dumb shit like getting drunk or smoking/drugs, but were loose on hanging out with friends or playing video or board games in the basement. But they still wanted us to get out of the house. Especially in the summer when the weather is nice. And if we could juggle it, get a PT job in high school and summer job in university. And getting a small time job wasnt about the money. Making a couple grand here or there doesnt move the needle. Our parents (esp my dad) were more like getting a job to keep busy and get something on your resume so when it comes time to get a job out of university, you got a list of stuff you did. Even if it's junky jobs, it doesn't matter. It shows you got some responsibility along with school, instead of having zero PT jobs. Every hiring manager knows a college kid might have McDonald's or Walmart stock boy on their resume. That's ok. At that stage, it's not about what job you actually did, but how much effort you put in as they want good grads with ambition who have work ethic.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I''m just the fun uncle my nieces and nephews see every month for a few hours and I buy them shit to make them happy.

Don’t sell yourself short. Your roll is very important. There will likely be a day where they approach you for some important advice. All I can ask is that you be as helpful as you can, while respecting their parents wishes.

Uncles and Aunts are important.

 

[IntentionalPun]

I haven’t, not at all really. In some ways more liberal if anything. The modern “progressive” movement has lost me but that’s not because my ideals change.

I find the patting yourselves on the back and acting like you are just “maturing” by becoming more conservative kind of hilarious.

 

[Ownage]

So I’m over 40 and finally feeling it. Some aches that happen if I spend all day working and not getting sleep.

I make noises when going to the ground to change a diaper, or when getting up.

I want people to leave me alone, and want to kill any creature that comes and fucks with my lawn. I’ve killed 4 gophers this year, after they fucked it up.

Then there’s these young people and their unearned sense of entitlement.

It’s a weekend thread.

You didn't change. The world shifted. Happens with most generations.

Stick to your values and your tribe will find you.

 

[The Pleasure]

I learned SOOOO much Gen Z/alpha slang a month or two ago just so I could annoy my nieces. (They don’t use that slang, but the annoying boys in their classes do.)

im str8 bussin like a skibidi rizzler no cap fr fr, hittin that sigma grindset but lowkey vibin

You think you bussin, sigma? Imma finna crash yo ass.

 

[sono]

They're exactly what I would expect for a generation of kids who grew up with the internet.

Can you describe what they are like. I have no contact with kids of that age to understand what you mean.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Don’t sell yourself short. Your roll is very important. There will likely be a day where they approach you for some important advice. All I can ask is that you be as helpful as you can, while respecting their parents wishes.

Uncles and Aunts are important.

Totally. I'm always there for them. That even includes the occasional pick up duty when my bro/sis in law are busy. No worries.

And by far, I buy them all the 100% best Xmas gifts ever in the family tree. Even better than what their own parents buy them. LOL. It gets to a point everyone knows mine are the best and they itch to open them first. But I tell them open them last. Sometimes the other people gathered around mumble what I got them since they know their shit gift they probably bought that afternoon at a flea market for $10 is junk, while I always put in effort to buy everyone good stuff. I know good gifts arent everything about Xmas, but to me it's important. It shows you put some thought into it and I like seeing the kids happy as a clam, instead of opening something they toss aside and will never use.

One of them is in high school and said she might go into business when she goes to university. I already told her if she needs help with high school (or university) material later, I can help. It'll be a while, but if she does do business I'll help her get a job best I can when she graduates. That wont be for another 6 years though! I also give them tips playing hockey. How to position yourself and use the boards to defend (no contact league) or clear a puck. Basic hockey stuff their own coach doesnt even tell them. it's a rec league so there's no Gretzky's playing, but some of these coaches dont even give a shit or give tips.

Also, in my will I'm going to split my assets equally among them all. My parents and sibligns wont need it. Parents will be long dead by then and my sibs all have more money and a bigger house than I do. They dont need it. Based on my retirement tracker, I estimate (crossing fingers) each one of them should get around $700,000 off me when I'm a dead dude. lol

 

[DrFigs]

It would be weirder if your political views didn't change as time passes.

 

[rm082e]

Can you describe what they are like. I have no contact with kids of that age to understand what you mean.

They're more anxious than I remember my generation being. When I was a kid, as soon as I got off the bus and was in my neighborhood, it felt like a safe place from a mental health perspective. If I had a problem with another kid at school, he couldn't give me shit when I was in my house. But with social media, there is no safe place. The kids can always bully through social media, everyone they know sees it, and they're all talking about it. Even if you tell your kid to "just ignore it", that doesn't work. It's like telling someone who's depressed to just "stop being sad". Even if they don't look at the phone, they still know it's going on and they're going to have to deal with it the next day. It's a real problem.

They've also got a lot more older people influencing them. In my time, when I was in middle school, I didn't talk to or hear anything from or really know anyone who was in high school. I was the first born in my family and among my friends, only one or two had an older sibling who was in HS. I only really knew kids who were in my age group, so that's who I was influenced by. But with YouTube and TikTok, elementary school kids are now being influenced by high school aged kids, who are themselves being influenced by college age kids. For instance, you can draw a straight line between the 10/10 20-something Instagram girl with 10 million followers who does a make-up routine video to the handful of high school aged girls who make a shameless copy of it, and then to the dozens of middle school aged girls who make a copy of the high school girls videos. Then you've got a 10yo girl in 4th grade asking for expensive make-up because their girl they look up to on the internet made a video about it. Same thing happens with boys and video game streamers.

At the same time, so much of how they communicate and make friends happens through the phone these days. If you try to guard them against the downsides by not letting them have it, they just become the outcast who doesn't have any friends. It's been a real journey for us with our daughter (15). I wish this was a genie we could put back in the bottle...

 

[NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt]

It seems that most people become more conservative as they get older. Some people become more liberal but in general it seems people get more conservative and that's pretty normal so I wouldn't worry about it.

Yep I used to be more liberal back when I was younger but as I grew older I started to become less liberal. Experiences with real life is what changed my mindset. I'm not full blown conservative and never will be but I'm never gonna to be a liberal. I have issues with both sides personally

 

[FoxMcChief]

Yep I used to be more liberal back when I was younger as I grew older I started to become less liberal. Experiences with real life is what changed my mindset. I'm not full blown conservative and never will be but I'm never gonna to be a liberal. I have issues with both sides personally

Same here. That’s why I wanted people to know this wasn’t a politics thing. Just my personal experience. At the end of the day, both parties fuck people over. They just take turns fucking over different groups. And hate all the groups, all the parties and everyone’s agenda. I just want people to talk less, and realize what they have to say doesn’t mean a thing. And that goes for me as well.

 

[T-0800]

Not my diapers, lol!

My 2 year old daughter. We are going to start potty training next week.

You're far too old to be starting potty training.

 

[March Climber]

Maybe I should have said closed minded instead of conservative.

No, you used the correct word. It’s just that American Politics collectively changed the word Conservative to be 99% synonymous with Republican.

It’s the same with the word liberalism, and recently I slowly see more and more people online being confused or triggered over the words democracy and republic.

 

[The Pleasure]

Lmaoooo I’m opening presents from my nieces and I got counter-trolled

Spoiler

The joke will be on them when I show up to their school musical wearing this in a couple months

This your life?

 

[Madonis]

This happens to almost everyone, one way or another, so that's normal.

We're all, on some level, becoming less open to risk and experimentation as we grow up and go through life. Which makes us cling to whatever we consider to be reliable and safe.

That said, it's not going to map so perfectly across the political spectrum. Say, you can be relatively conservative in mindset yet still find yourself on the left rather than on the right (or, yes, even vice versa).

 

[Rentahamster]

Nope. I see admirable qualities and not so admirable qualities in all age groups, young and old.

My personal principles are derived as much as possible from a data driven approach, so they don't necessarily get more conservative as I age.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Brain chemistry is changing. You become less flexible as you age so the stability of conservatism becomes more appealing.

 

[ForAcademicPurposes]

 

[Kraz]

Regarding the purely self-interested, those without consideration for others, there was some article that remarked recently about how financial security can lead to conservatism while financial distress does the opposite for these as social safety nets become a personal concern. Their use of safety nets is justified, while others are just being lazy.

 

[DeafTourette]

I'm 50 and I got more liberal as I aged. I was more conservative as a 20-something. And I'm more accepting of people as I've aged too. I like who I am and so do the people I've met and who are around me.

Recently, my niece called me her Spock. It's Star Trek thing you probably wouldn't understand.

 

[near]

As I’ve grown older, I’ve come dislike the terms “liberal” and “conservative” altogether. I don’t abide by either label, and neither accurately represent my worldview.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Don’t sell yourself short. Your roll is very important. There will likely be a day where they approach you for some important advice. All I can ask is that you be as helpful as you can, while respecting their parents wishes.

Uncles and Aunts are important.

Got one of my nephews a GoPro for Xmas.

He already used it snowboarding and skiing and loves it! He showed me videos at dinner last night. He and his dad didnt adjust the angle of it well so it skewed too much looking at the ground instead of eye level, but it was still awesome. The wipe outs were hilarious. I dont ski or snowboard, but what's also crazy is that as he's going down the hill, there's all kinds of random people standing around or going a bad direction, so he's have to go around them. A few semi close calls too. probably looked worse than it really was, but I'm like..... Whoa you almost rammed into a guy.

Also, a lot of the hill isn't even fenced off with cage protection. So I'm like.... What if someone veers off into the trees? They both just said youre toast. lol