That's too bad, it's one of my favorites. Maybe he hates accordions or he had a bad experience in Zeiss's caves.
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The Kiseki / Trails (of the Sky/Zero/Ao/Sen/Etc) Community Thread: SPOILERTAGS OR DIE
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That's too bad, it's one of my favorites. Maybe he hates accordions or he had a bad experience in Zeiss's caves.
R_thanatos
Member
That place is ok , IMO untill you have to pass through when the lights are off.
Thank you cloak orb
It just feels really generic. The cheery music when in town, the by the number overworld songs... It actually reminds me of RPG maker stock music sometimes. It lacks an identity I guess.
Some of it I love though, like the mellow guitar tune that plays in the fishing spot by the lake. Or the victory theme.
He finds it repetitive and out of place. I'll admit that I have trouble countering his argument. That said, I replaced all of my FC music files with the Evolution versions so I at least got a real violin in it.
Maybe a moderator could update it, or I could make a brand new thread. Haven't seen Bebpo around in a while.
You guys are unbelievably kickass
It basically needs a full overhaul.
Each game separated with store links to each PSN / Steam page, explanations on the current status of Crossbell, larger descriptions of all games individually, history of XSEED's involvement and links to their blog pieces... the works.
klabautermann
Member
Man, that dual beast fight in the Bareahard sewers was probably the most i've struggled with this game so far. Not really feeling this 2nd field study party layout, vastly preferred the Rean, Elliot, Alisa, Laura team.
That sounds like work.
Perhaps if you fired up your inner forbidden power and summoned a giant robot while simultaneously using a brokenly OP sword style on top of the power of friendship, you could get the job done. Or maybe you just need Towa to tell you to do it.
Jokes aside, if it's too much work, I would love to do it myself, whichever way it needs to be done.
StarSketch
Banned
Am I allowed to make new graphics for the thread or is that too much
really I just want to practice graphic designing but I need a project
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
The victory theme has more identity than something funky and well-arranged with a good melody like Rock on the Road? I haven't listened to RPGMaker stuff in ages, but this sounds distinct. Ruan's theme gets a little melancholic around the middle, too, and Grancel has really crisp instruments and dynamics. The latter two themes are likely by Takahide Murayama, so it's less a problem of identity and more not aligning or favoring the styles used throughout the soundtrack. But it's no more generic than the character tropes used in FC which reveal finer details upon inspection.
I wish Peace Bestowed by Twilight appeared more often, too.
You've got a real violin but also just different, less or more fitting arrangements all-around. I'm not sure how that track's repetitive when it develops well beyond a minute.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I would really appreciate this actually
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Ideally the new OT could also fold into an image guide summarizing the series, play order(s), and upcoming news.
A long time ago, I stitched the two cover images together of the big Kiseki artbooks at the request of Elliot when he was thinking about doing a series OT. I can provide the larger image if anyone wants it. (but I do request credit, because it was very frustrating task. lol)
Here's a small copy of it:
Here's a small copy of it:
Young Magus
Junior Member
We redoing the OT?
Anything I can help with?
Anything I can help with?
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Make the introduction a tl;dr, then go wild with the rest of it. This is a detailed series 7 games and counting, trying to be concise is going to leave out information that's probably worth mentioning.
Or just suggest some updates for the current thread. Updated details plus a bit of additional information.
Or just suggest some updates for the current thread. Updated details plus a bit of additional information.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
I suggest that the reworked thing should include a head pat meme at the end.
Not because it's funny but because it's the right thing to do.
Not because it's funny but because it's the right thing to do.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Ideally I think we'd post the new OT right as The 3rd OT moves to community to give the series the most exposure possible
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
One thing that was mentioned in the 3rd stream was that Brittany was considering tweaking the game titles for the PC releases. Like extending SC into Second Chapter.
That was something I'd thought about before, but the obvious problem is that it makes the title even more unwieldy. Personally, I'd be all for dropping "The Legend of Heroes" from the listing and library titles, but I'm curious what other people think of that.
Legend of Heroes obviously has a lot of history to it, but that history is largely Japanese. In the west all it really does is connect the games to the poorly localized PSP ports of the Gagharv games, which isn't really a positive. Beyond that connection, it's an unfortunately generic title that does nothing to draw attention to the games.
That was something I'd thought about before, but the obvious problem is that it makes the title even more unwieldy. Personally, I'd be all for dropping "The Legend of Heroes" from the listing and library titles, but I'm curious what other people think of that.
Legend of Heroes obviously has a lot of history to it, but that history is largely Japanese. In the west all it really does is connect the games to the poorly localized PSP ports of the Gagharv games, which isn't really a positive. Beyond that connection, it's an unfortunately generic title that does nothing to draw attention to the games.
hosannainexcelsis
Member
I think it makes sense to drop "Legend of Heroes"; the question I suppose would be whether Falcom cares about keeping that branding.
From my guess of how Falcom looks at the branding, they might insist that it stays. They actually dropped it from Nayuta no Kiseki to separate Nayuta from the rest of the Legend of Heroes titles. And on top of this, there are actual debates on whether or not Kiseki and Gagharv are actually linked. There are a lot of references back to Gagharv outside of the usual 'cameo' statements.
As one example, the Doll Knight novels originated from Gagharv- Song of the Ocean to be exact, and they actually reference the 'Workshops Thirteen' that comes up as a relatively big part in Kiseki, as well.
Don't call it a renovation. Call it Evolution.
So vocaroo clips, youtube links to badly-done remixes and T&A in the OP?
R_thanatos
Member
Nothing. That's pretty much the point. People know the games by the Trails moniker anyway, so calling them "Trails something something" is enough. No need to have anything in front of it. Legend of Heroes hasn't been much of a thing in the west before Trails in the Sky to begin with, so it's not like there's much brand recognition there. (If anything the connection to the horribly localized Gagharv games does more harm than good).
The current name is just too long for the various store fronts. If you search for Trails on Steam, you can't even see at a glance that these are different games.
Of course, if Falcom wants to move on from the Trails games sooner or later it somewhat makes sense to keep the Legend of Heroes banner somewhere (even though it's going to take like 10 years before that happens
). Maybe moving Legend of Heroes to be something more of a subtitle would help too ("Trails in the Sky - Legend of Heroes", "Trails of Cold Steel - Legend of Heroes"). I suppose that Falcom insists on keeping Legend of Heroes where it is, though.I don't even see Falcom moving away from the naming convention unless, as omgfloofy pointed out, we're talking about a spin-off such as Nayuta. The problem we have doesn't exist for Falcom, considering the compact nature of Japanese.Of course, if Falcom wants to move on from the Trails games sooner or later it somewhat makes sense to keep the Legend of Heroes banner somewhere (even though it's going to take like 10 years before that happens
Also, +1 for refreshing the OP. Feel free to PM me if you need any assets.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Nothing. That's pretty much the point. People know the games by the Trails moniker anyway, so calling them "Trails something something" is enough. No need to have anything in front of it. Legend of Heroes hasn't been much of a thing in the west before Trails in the Sky to begin with, so it's not like there's much brand recognition there. (If anything the connection to the horribly localized Gagharv games does more harm than good).
The current name is just too long for the various store fronts. If you search for Trails on Steam, you can't even see at a glance that these are different games.
Of course, if Falcom wants to move on from the Trails games sooner or later it somewhat makes sense to keep the Legend of Heroes banner somewhere (even though it's going to take like 10 years before that happens
I don't think the branding needs to be stripped entirely. Leave it in the logos and even things like press releases and game descriptions, but for storefronts/library listings have the shorter Trails in/of title. Much shorter and cleaner at a glance.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Also fewer and less interesting avatars for us posters.
CertifiedFP
Member
No, make it longer.
The Legend of Heroes, the Sixth, Trails in the Sky, the Second Chapter
The Legend of Heroes, the Eighth, Trails of Cold Steel, the Second
You forgot the best part.
Spoiler-filled OP videos full of animation mistakes every five seconds and awful storyboarding that make Unlimited Blade Works 2012 look like Fate/Zero by comparison, and Engrish writing in various spots that mess up Falcom's own official Romanizations like "OBAL STORE", "POILCE", "CROSBELL STEIT"
The Legend of Heroes, the Sixth, Trails in the Sky, the Second Chapter
The Legend of Heroes, the Eighth, Trails of Cold Steel, the Second
You forgot the best part.
Spoiler-filled OP videos full of animation mistakes every five seconds and awful storyboarding that make Unlimited Blade Works 2012 look like Fate/Zero by comparison, and Engrish writing in various spots that mess up Falcom's own official Romanizations like "OBAL STORE", "POILCE", "CROSBELL STEIT"
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I will probably wait a day or 2 to start TitS 3 so I can play the Nier Automata DLC. I alo have to finish my NG+ P5 run
ShadowSoldier89
Member
its been really difficult to keep up with this year...2 me's would be great. Send the extra to work.
R_thanatos
Member
I guess estelle let go of her tita-hug tendancies and her mother came back doing that duty ?
Are we going to have a countdown , xseed ? Every fan is already at max hype.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
IT'S SO SOON.
I'M NOT DONE WITH PERSONA 5.
GODS OF JAPANESE GAMING HAVE MERCY UPON THIS TORTURED SOUL.
I'm pretty sure Tita is the hug-ee version of Rean's pat-er.
I'm going from one long game to the other.
It never stops.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Depends on if you have a spare 80 hours in the next 8 days.
Fucking hell. Trails 3rd drops in May? I won't be CLOSE to done with P5 by then. I also have Cosmic Star Heroine and Bayonetta on deck to play on Steam. 2017 has got to be close to eclipsing the best ever years in gaming at this point. There have been an EMBARRASSMENT of riches this year.
Trails FC & SC were some of the best RPGs I've played recently though so I gotta get to 3rd as soon as possible.
Trails FC & SC were some of the best RPGs I've played recently though so I gotta get to 3rd as soon as possible.
I think I finished SC in something like 60-65 hours, and this was without using Cheat Engine's speed hack. If you're not too busy it seems doable.