The Last of Us - Review Thread [Emargo up, scores in OP.]

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That weekend after my exams and school is all over, and I have the chance to play TLOU and Bioshock: Infinite back to back (just bought infinite a few days ago) my mind will probably be blown.
 
Depends on the reviewer. Personally any game that is basically shoot shit, collect shit, and passively experience a story does not get above a 6 for me, but that is my personal gaming taste. Maybe the reviewer just really liked city builders and never played the older and better games.

This is just too special of a plea. And I'd like to think reviewers hold themselves in higher regards than just "I personally like this".
 
That weekend after my exams and school is all over, and I have the chance to play TLOU and Bioshock: Infinite back to back (just bought infinite a few days ago) my mind will probably be blown.

Yeah you probably wont make it back to school in the Fall.
 
gamerector review -

GAMEREACTOR UK+
+ huge adventure + combat options get better the more you unlock + Game Plus and harder difficulties will demand a replay + B&W filter turns this into The Mist + MP's metagame nice way to encourage online play.
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- the main plot's nothing new.

nice
 
Depends on the reviewer. Personally any game that is basically shoot shit, collect shit, and passively experience a story does not get above a 6 for me, but that is my personal gaming taste. Maybe the reviewer just really liked city builders and never played the older and better games.

Lol so replace shoot shit will kill shit, and 99% of games out there get no higher than a 6 for you, including Halo, Bioshock, Uncharted, Zelda, Mario and so on? Talk about an awful opinion.
 
Score reviews really need to disappear, so do perfect scores.

Everybody should really just read the review.

For example Uncharted 2 is a game I'd regard as a generation defining game, changing a genre for good.

But with The Last of Us and the earlier Bioshock Infinite hyperbole the line is not anymore drawn between a fantastic game and a generation defining one.
 
i really dont get the hate for Arthur but i do sincerely remember him saying that he would never re review a game or change its score if they patched a game etc. That reviews were reflective of the product at release.....then sim city happened and he openly said on rebel fm he would re review something if it got fixed. i lost respect for him then. still like hearing his opinion and love rebel fm. just a bit weird, that switch.

back on point, pre order justified
 
Lol so replace shoot shit will kill shit, and 99% of games out there get no higher than a 6 for you, including Halo, Bishops, Uncharted, Zelda, Mario and so on? Talk about an awful opinion.

I wouldn;t say its an awful opinion, but its one I wouldn't care to read in a review.
 
why? Reviews should be subjective. In fact, the more, the better imo.

Reviewing something subjectively doesn't have to be related to "I personally don't like it, so it gets a bad grade", since you can still see some good points of a game, even though it might not appeal to you, because of your particular tastes. Seems random if the reviewer not liking Sci-Fi should affect the score the game gets. At least to a big degree. It's easy to see that someone that's extremely hyped to get carried away, but if you can't sit back and review how a game is made, because you don't like the genre, you're not trying to live up to the standards of your profession.

And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.
 
It's not like I'm mad at Polygon for their review or anything (quite frankly who even cares, this game is going to be incredible) but if anyone told me in person that Remember Me is a better game than TLoU I would laugh them out of the room.


And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.

Exactly, I don't really think this is an example of fanboy uproar I just think that anyone with common sense can see that something is up with that review.
 
These instances left my nerves frayed, but I also felt good about progressing without forcing my young traveling companion to witness even more horrifying violence. I wanted to avoid that violence in part because of its disgusting detail.

Did I mention that Joel isn't terribly good with guns? Naughty Dog has given Joel's aim a semi-realistic shakiness which, when mixed with the erratic movement of the infected, makes keeping enemies at bay a serious — and not terribly entertaining — challenge. Eventual upgrades allow Joel to hold his aim slightly better, but the annoyance never disappeared.

http://www.polygon.com/game/the-last-of-us/3040

I can't believe it... this Polygon guy is a joke. If he wanted to justify his bullshit review, these are the worst excuses...
 
It's not like I'm mad at Polygon for their review or anything (quite frankly who even cares, this game is going to be incredible) but if anyone told me in person that Remember Me is a better game than TLoU I would laugh them out of the room.

But did the same guy review Remember Me?
 
Reviewing something subjectively doesn't have to be related to "I personally don't like it, so it gets a bad grade", since you can still see some good points of a game, even though it might not appeal to you, because of your particular tastes. Seems random if the reviewer not liking Sci-Fi should affect the score the game gets. At least to a big degree. It's easy to see that someone that's extremely hyped to get carried away, but if you can't sit back and review how a game is made, because you don't like the genre, you're not trying to live up to the standards of your profession.

And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.
Yeah that's not exactly what he meant by subjective. But what is so terrible about the "I personally don't like it so it gets a bad grade" model? That's why there are various review outlets.
 
But did the same guy review Remember Me?

The same guy gave the same 7.5 to Resident Evil Revelations...

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Wow. I've never seen so many 10/10 for a game before. Maybe OOT? Is this game really that good?

I'm sure it's really good, but you have to also realize it's the kind of game reviewers love. Linear spectacle that doesn't demand too much from the player. Skewed towards an older audience.

I'm going to get it, but I don't expect that I would give the game a 10. I don't hear anyone mention anything in the actual gameplay that sounds worthy of that number, or even new honestly. They mention production values, soundtrack, and story first and gameplay is a distant 4th, if it's mentioned at all.

It's a different kind of 10/10 than the ones games like Mario Galaxy and Ocarina of Time get for pushing gameplay into new territory.

I'd expect a solid 9/10 though. We'll see!
 
And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.

If we're taking history into account, basically every outlet would have to be ignored, which includes all the 10/10's that the fans aren't complaining about.
 
The last review Kollar posted before this was RE:R's. He gave the game 7.5 as well. Is that wound burning up yet, ND fans?
 
Since I like the slow, methodical gameplay for games that are worthy of such an approach, I'll probably take 20 hours.

Sounds like a plan.

15-20 hours is more like it. Most reviews noted 18 or so.



Pretty much, will take me just as long if not longer for me. I don't have the steady time to play a game like I used to.

I'm not a professional in the gaming industry with the know how to speed run or with a deadline for reviews.

And I scavenge slowly as I don't have that eye I used to have for the obvious or want to miss out on anything no matter how minute the detail.

I usually add 5 to 10 hours to any single player game based on what is considered reviewer/GAF persons completion time.

As a regular gamer not in the industry I try to never compare what my playtime is/will be with those in the industry aside from acknowledging that it will take me longer and honestly, it should. Why should a gamer be in a rush unless he's reviewing or testing at which point the play time is moot as the person has an agenda/job that insists they finish as quickly as possible.
 
He did point out valid complaints about the combat and the AI.

Seems a lot like "validly complaining" the combat of Silent Hill 2. Both are oppressive games where you need to feel the frailness of the situation of the character you're playing. Playing as a character that isn't Joe The Gunwielder, and the control reflecting that, sounds like attention to detail, and play to the psychology of a situation like this. I can't say I'm surprised that people didn't get that about SH2, and the same with this.
 
Bioshock Infinite took me 20 hours. I expect this to take me even longer.

Same. Actually, it took me 26~hours to beat Bioshock Infinite. Not sure why it took so long, I just went over every place multiple times to try to find all the voxophones/infusions. I still somehow missed like 6 voxophones, though. D;

This game will probably take me over 25-30 hours.
 
Reviewing something subjectively doesn't have to be related to "I personally don't like it, so it gets a bad grade", since you can still see some good points of a game, even though it might not appeal to you, because of your particular tastes. Seems random if the reviewer not liking Sci-Fi should affect the score the game gets. At least to a big degree. It's easy to see that someone that's extremely hyped to get carried away, but if you can't sit back and review how a game is made, because you don't like the genre, you're not trying to live up to the standards of your profession.

And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.

Polygon is an embarassment; to themselves and to the industry. no disagreements there.

I think the ideal review should be able to say who would/wouldn't (and in some cases, that may be everybody. in other cases, that may be nobody) like the game/movie/book/etc.—while drawing on their own experience and opinion to inform that. Because, at the heart of the review, it should be a reflection of their own opinion. I think it's fine to say "I think many people will like this, but I simply didn't" and give it a shitty score. Because when reviews just become a giant echo chamber predicting what consumers will or won't like... then they become completely useless.
 
I don't know how else to say this, so I'll just say it plain out: I don't believe you.
Cool. Good luck finding any negative posts by me =].

The guy at the top of the page is what I questioned being true and is it right/wrong. I'm seeing more "lol, still with this" posts so I'm guessing it's false. That's all I needed to know. Edit: posts #5951-2. I wasn't trying to spark controversy lol. I guess my "breaking the law" did me in. People are sensitive in here. They just want to see a blood bath haha.
 
But did the same guy review Remember Me?

Probably not, but when one game is clearly a cut above the other on all levels I think it is unprofessional for a gaming website to let something like that happen.

I understand that the guy playing remember me probably thought that the game deserved an 8, and the guy who played the last of us a 7.5, but if a food website tells me that a big mac is better than an in and out burger I probably wont listen to that site anymore.

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I think the problem stems from the ten point scale, in that review sites are afraid to give 5 for an average game and end up defaulting to around 7. Either way I don't really care haha this game is going to be unbelievable.
 
The last review Kollar posted before this was RE:R's. He gave the game 7.5 as well. Is that wound burning up yet, ND fans?

Honestly ? Dont Care.

For now anyone saying his criticism is valid or not will be decided when we all play the game.

For majority of the reviewers have said differently about the games combat and ai not that a big issue like polygon and been playing the demo i would atleast agree about the combat with the rest 97% reviewers.


It's as good as Bioshock Infinite.

So, basically, wait a few weeks for the real impressions.

Many reviewers are gaffers themselves unless your implying with the post that all are wrong impressions ?
 
Reviewing something subjectively doesn't have to be related to "I personally don't like it, so it gets a bad grade", since you can still see some good points of a game, even though it might not appeal to you, because of your particular tastes. Seems random if the reviewer not liking Sci-Fi should affect the score the game gets. At least to a big degree. It's easy to see that someone that's extremely hyped to get carried away, but if you can't sit back and review how a game is made, because you don't like the genre, you're not trying to live up to the standards of your profession.

And taking Polygon's history into account, I can't see how we can't at least raise an eyebrow over the fact that SimCity got better scores than this game. I don't know if this game lives up to a 10/10, and that's not what I'm trying to defend - it's just that Polygon seems to love what all hate, and hate what all love. Thus, polarized and seemingly unprofessional.
It isn't just Sim City. As example these guys reviewed some other games that are more similar (let's say survival horror / TPS) like the recent RE HD port (7.5/10) or Dead Space 3 (9.5/10).
 
What difficulty? I beat it in 21 hours on 1999 mode.

Never Again.

Normal--but I did play a fair amount on hard as well and the game didn't seem noticeably more difficult. I think the largest time-sink is just experiencing the world, but by the time I got to Fink's stuff, I didn't really care anymore.
 
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