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The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky SC |OT| More Olivier Than Ever

UberTag

Member
I bought the game on release, but FINALLY go around to starting it up this week. Just got to the part where I have to pick Schera/Agate.

I went for Agate, but story-wise is there one path that is significantly better than the other?
They're both pretty entertaining and result in some fresh, unique perspectives and interactions through the first 3 chapters of the game. Going with Agate is the better choice for game balance purposes but there's a lot to love from the Schera route so feel free to either play through or look up how the differences shake out on YouTube or something similar.

Almost all of the intra-chapter airship conversations are completely different and there are events that play out in unique fashion depending on which character you have with you. But in terms of one being "significantly better" than the other... that's not the case. They're just different.
 
Yeah I tried to tell myself that, but the "filthy heretic" bits really rubbed me the wrong way. Weissman is a piece of shit, but not because he abandoned the faith.

SC endgame spoilers:
It's rather refreshing to see a CHURCH church in a JRPG not be a den of evil for once. lol

I wonder if this was in responce to that sort of thing rampant around 15 years ago?

Anyways, it even feels a bit nuanced in that reguards; I guess 3rd will tell me whether or not my hunch that he's got reasons for that specific remark (and not just that Weissman was doin' evil like it was going out of style).
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
SC endgame spoilers:
It's rather refreshing to see a CHURCH church in a JRPG not be a den of evil for once. lol

I wonder if this was in responce to that sort of thing rampant around 15 years ago?

Anyways, it even feels a bit nuanced in that reguards; I guess 3rd will tell me whether or not my hunch that he's got reasons for that specific remark (and not just that Weissman was doin' evil like it was going out of style).

Eh? Well if anything, this tells me the Church is corrupt and not all that nice and cool as you'd think from the nice and happy Kevin. So that's a pretty standard JRPG trope. :p But I'm OK with this, because really... fuck the church.
 
Eh? Well if anything, this tells me the Church is corrupt and not all that nice and cool as you'd think from the nice and happy Kevin. So that's a pretty standard JRPG trope. :p But I'm OK with this, because really... fuck the church.

Corrupt? How so? Because Kevin decided to gloat when he killed Weissman?

Anyway, and this is a personal issue, as a Christian who has worked inside churches for years as a musician, I appreciate when media is nuanced enough to not depict religion as nothing but a simple front for secret totally evil activities. I think Trails has done this pretty well from what I've played. I liked, for instance, the Septian church shielding Julia when she and the Royal Guard were being accused of treason in FC.
 

omgfloofy

Banned
Spoiler relevant to the current conversation:

You might be surprised with stuff with the Septian Church. What you see of Kevin at the end of SC might be a can of worms, but as Guan said earlier, there was definite good reason for what happened.

Something to remember is that they have had a very good and positive role in the livelihood of people in Liberl. They directly helped the nation rebuild after the Hundred Days War and stuff. There are definitely some secret things going down in the church, but 3rd's going to give you a lot more insight into Kevin, who he is, and what he does.

The church, as a whole, is probably one of the most fascinating parts of the overall series to me. Because of these gray areas and stuff.

I wonder if this was in responce to that sort of thing rampant around 15 years ago?

No. Kondo straight up said that the Septian Church is based on the Catholic church from a Japanese perspective. - note the italicized part, because that's the most important for it. Culturally, the Catholic Church is kind of a mystified, mysterious organization to the Japanese, much as many people in the west view Shintoism and Buddhism. It's the 'other side of the fence' in a way.
 

Xelinis

Junior Member
On Chapter 4 of SC right now. So far, I've had a pretty great time with both Trails in the Sky games, except for one thing:

I wonder, am I the only here here who just doesn't like the OST? It's all elevator music to me, the main battle theme being the WORST culprit. Every time I get into an encounter, I just want to mute the game and load up the Xenogears battle theme on my phone. My disdain for the soundtrack was really surprising to me, especially with the game coming from the same company that made Ys.

Anyone else feel similarly?
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
On Chapter 4 of SC right now. So far, I've had a pretty great time with both Trails in the Sky games, except for one thing:

I wonder, am I the only here here who just doesn't like the OST? It's all elevator music to me, the main battle theme being the WORST culprit. Every time I get into an encounter, I just want to mute the game and load up the Xenogears battle theme on my phone. My disdain for the soundtrack was really surprising to me, especially with the game coming from the same company that made Ys.

Anyone else feel similarly?

I think the SC songs are generally better than the FC carry-overs. Even the slower "elevator music" ones.

It has some kickin' tracks though, I really like Fate of the Fairies (which you have heard in game) and Fateful Confrontation (which you haven't). Youtube links, so as usual be wary of spoilers in the comments.
 
Ys had calm, subtly melodic tunes too!

Eh? Well if anything, this tells me the Church is corrupt and not all that nice and cool as you'd think from the nice and happy Kevin. So that's a pretty standard JRPG trope. :p But I'm OK with this, because really... fuck the church.

Lets put it this way:
It doesn't feel tired. It felt nuanced, human, and realistic.

I'd imagine it was a breath of fresh air in 2006 after
and Evangelionized pop culture assault of the same thing over and over.
 
Overall, the Church feels complex. I can certainly believe even just based on the games we've gotten translated that some folks in the Church might be up to some shady shit, and there's definitely a wide variety of things going on there.

But they also are presented as something of a force for good. We see a lot of the good the church does for society, and it's all done in a way that benefits the world-building. For example, the fact that they play a key role in educating young children, and the idea of the church as being a center for education and preservation of knowledge in general. This was a big role that churches had in historical times, that people often overlook in 21st century written fiction because of how much organized religion seems to be at odds with facts and science these days. I appreciate the more nuanced look that this series gives the church.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Overall, the Church feels complex. I can certainly believe even just based on the games we've gotten translated that some folks in the Church might be up to some shady shit, and there's definitely a wide variety of things going on there.

But they also are presented as something of a force for good. We see a lot of the good the church does for society, and it's all done in a way that benefits the world-building. For example, the fact that they play a key role in educating young children, and the idea of the church as being a center for education and preservation of knowledge in general. This was a big role that churches had in historical times, that people often overlook in 21st century written fiction because of how much organized religion seems to be at odds with facts and science these days. I appreciate the more nuanced look that this series gives the church.

The education thing can actually work both ways since it ties in nicely with the shady shit. The church being the center for education makes it pretty easy for them bury things, especially over long periods of time. It wouldn't surprise me at all if that were the case based on some things I've read, and even SC's representation of the church where we find out there is secretive stuff going on in the background (at least, I don't recall any references to that in FC, but they might have been there).
 

omgfloofy

Banned
More stuff on the current topic:

A really good chance to find out about stuff going on in the church, politically- go talk to the bishop in Grancel at the very last chance you have in chapter 8.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
[Trails SC]
Corrupt? How so? Because Kevin decided to gloat when he killed Weissman?
No, not the gloating part, the part where he shows contempt because Weissman left the faith and isn't praying anymore. Plus "filthy heretic" is textbook fanaticism. Maybe corrupt wasn't the right word, but they sure seem shady as hell.

Anyway, and this is a personal issue, as a Christian who has worked inside churches for years as a musician, I appreciate when media is nuanced enough to not depict religion as nothing but a simple front for secret totally evil activities. I think Trails has done this pretty well from what I've played. I liked, for instance, the Septian church shielding Julia when she and the Royal Guard were being accused of treason in FC.
I think I see what you mean, as I don't think we need another "the church is really a front for devil worship" subplot, but there is nothing wrong with showing how inherently morally bankrupt it is as an institution. I don't know if Aidios is canonically "real" in the world of Kiseki, though, which might change my opinion of this church a bit, but still not by much. ;)
 

Chuy

Member
Just got to chapter
8
and was wondering about a couple of things:

Regarding the Zero Field Generator thing every time I visit a branch and install one i'm going to lose one from inventory correct?

Additionally how can I tell when i'm "finished" with a town as in there's no more quests to be done? Went to Rolent first and just cleared the board and did Aina's request to check up on Ridge and don't want to miss any optional quests seeing since it looks like this chapter is full of them.

Also what is there to do in Grancel at this time? I uninstalled disc one to make some space on my vita and was wondering if it's worth it to add it back.
 

Cqef

Member
Just got to chapter
8
and was wondering about a couple of things:

Regarding the Zero Field Generator thing every time I visit a branch and install one i'm going to lose one from inventory correct?

Exactly. And should all your remaining ZFGs be equipped, once you get in a guild branch, you'll be asked from which character to take it from.

Additionally how can I tell when i'm "finished" with a town as in there's no more quests to be done? Went to Rolent first and just cleared the board and did Aina's request to check up on Ridge and don't want to miss any optional quests seeing since it looks like this chapter is full of them.

The important quests during chapter 8 are missable and partially hidden. They're not mentioned on the bulletin board for instance, BUT the guild receptionist will tell you about it, so pay real close attention.
Btw since you've probably finished all the stuff at the mine, saving Ridge and all, you might want to check the church. It's nothing mandatory or anything, but there's a nice event you might want to check.

Also what is there to do in Grancel at this time? I uninstalled disc one to make some space on my vita and was wondering if it's worth it to add it back.

If you followed whatever happened, you'll need to go back in Grancel no matter what once you're finished delivering the ZFGs (should you return back in Grancel before that though, there's nothing of real importance happening there, like, there are 2 monster extermination quests, but that's it), and you'll definitely need Disc 1 again for this part. And you need Disc 1 anyway to deliverer the ZFGs in Ruan and Zeiss.
 

Psxphile

Member
Hm, Chapter 8 sounds like a pain in the ass on PSP/Vita.

Besides the quests, there's one other reason you might want to stop in Grancel early:
seeing Estelle gloat over the ex-Mayor Dalmore and his fall from grace was a treat.
 

Cqef

Member
Hm, Chapter 8 sounds like a pain in the ass on PSP/Vita.

It's easier on the PSP thanks to the preview screen before launching the game, with Disc 1 and 2 each playing background music tracks (disc 1 plays Shine of Aidios~Sora no Kiseki~, disc 2 plays Silver Will, Golden Wings) as well as different background artworks which explicitly tell you which disc they correspond to.
So it's actually pretty okay to play the game on the PSP.
On the other hand, on the Vita, you have this:
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Both disc files have the exact same file name, so it's impossible to tell which is disc 1 or 2 at a glance. The only way to know is to actually launch the game, and even then you wouldn't know unless you start a new game or load a save.
Urgh.
 

Chuy

Member
Exactly. And should all your remaining ZFGs be equipped, once you get in a guild branch, you'll be asked from which character to take it from.
Making sure is all. For some reason I thought I was given enough of them for all the important locations plus the main team.

The important quests during chapter 8 are missable and partially hidden. They're not mentioned on the bulletin board for instance, BUT the guild receptionist will tell you about it, so pay real close attention.
Btw since you've probably finished all the stuff at the mine, saving Ridge and all, you might want to check the church. It's nothing mandatory or anything, but there's a nice event you might want to check.
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Thanks for that. So the main important quests are going to be with the receptionists then for this chapter? I'm still going out of my way to talk to people like I planned so I can see nice little events like you just mentioned though.


If you followed whatever happened, you'll need to go back in Grancel no matter what once you're finished delivering the ZFGs (should you return back in Grancel before that though, there's nothing of real importance happening there, like, there are 2 monster extermination quests, but that's it), and you'll definitely need Disc 1 again for this part. And you need Disc 1 anyway to deliverer the ZFGs in Ruan and Zeiss.
I'm just trying to delay the inevitable really since I don't feel like shuffling stuff off my memory card again. I also thought the way discs worked for this game was akin to final fantasy which is why I deleted it in the first place. I'll just suck it up and add it back then if that's the case so I can explore Grancel.
 

UberTag

Member
Hm, Chapter 8 sounds like a pain in the ass on PSP/Vita.

Besides the quests, there's one other reason you might want to stop in Grancel early:
seeing Estelle gloat over the ex-Mayor Dalmore and his fall from grace was a treat.
That... plus
the ability to convert mira into sepith and easily farm the stuff to stock up for Level 5 quartz in the final chapter. Of course, you can also easily fish for rainbow trout off the Grancel port to do that as well... and I never found a better fishing spot elsewhere in the game thanks to the Rainbows and being able to resupply bait via catching salmon and roe.
 

Psxphile

Member
Finally claimed every Steam achievement in the game. Last holdout was the chest one (of course). Just about done with this run.

Oh hey, is it a known issue that characters don't carry over their XP correctly when you New Game+? I didn't notice it before while monsters and bosses were only doling out piddly amounts during my second run, but once I was in Final Chapter you can see clearly that most of my party have about 15,000 total each, despite some of them reaching Level 90+ on a previous run and the rest in or around Level 85.

This means that in order to gain a level they have to meet the high threshold of 50,000+ to 70,000+ points each. It would take several bouts of Shining Pom fights to even gain one level for those party members (the high level monsters of Final Chapter barely amount to 1000 points per battle if not less at their levels, and the maximum you can get from Shining Poms is 9999). Normally XP totals remain consistent: you reach the threshold, you gain a level, the amount of points for next level up jumps up a bit, rinse and repeat.

Oddly enough, 4 members don't have this issue:
Kevin, Josette, Mueller and Julia
. Their XP remain consistent with their levels, and only need a few thousand each to gain a level. Kinda sucks for me if I had any intention to power level (I hadn't, but you never know) some of them. I actually checked the last save of my previous run to see how many points I had at the end: Estelle and Joshua had 88,000 points each. Exactly where it should be, and exactly the amount I should have if I chose to carry over my status for New Game+.

EDIT: did some testing
New Game + SC clear data + FC clear data = 16,000 XP for Level 93 Estelle at start
New Game + SC clear data - FC clear data = 88,000ish XP for Level 93 Estelle at start

The fault lies with the FC clear data. Maybe loading it overrides the XP data for all the FC party members to a default value in SC? My Estelle in FC was at Level 42 w/ about 18,000 XP to her name at the end.
 

zakujanai

Member
Finally claimed every Steam achievement in the game. Last holdout was the chest one (of course). Just about done with this run.

Oh hey, is it a known issue that characters don't carry over their XP correctly when you New Game+? I didn't notice it before while monsters and bosses were only doling out piddly amounts during my second run, but once I was in Final Chapter you can see clearly that most of my party have about 15,000 total each, despite some of them reaching Level 90+ on a previous run and the rest in or around Level 85.

This means that in order to gain a level they have to meet the high threshold of 50,000+ to 70,000+ points each. It would take several bouts of Shining Pom fights to even gain one level for those party members (the high level monsters of Final Chapter barely amount to 1000 points per battle if not less at their levels, and the maximum you can get from Shining Poms is 9999). Normally XP totals remain consistent: you reach the threshold, you gain a level, the amount of points for next level up jumps up a bit, rinse and repeat.

Oddly enough, 4 members don't have this issue:
Kevin, Josette, Mueller and Julia
. Their XP remain consistent with their levels, and only need a few thousand each to gain a level. Kinda sucks for me if I had any intention to power level (I hadn't, but you never know) some of them. I actually checked the last save of my previous run to see how many points I had at the end: Estelle and Joshua had 88,000 points each. Exactly where it should be, and exactly the amount I should have if I chose to carry over my status for New Game+.

EDIT: did some testing
New Game + SC clear data + FC clear data = 16,000 XP for Level 93 Estelle at start
New Game + SC clear data - FC clear data = 88,000ish XP for Level 93 Estelle at start

The fault lies with the FC clear data. Maybe loading it overrides the XP data for all the FC party members to a default value in SC? My Estelle in FC was at Level 42 w/ about 18,000 XP to her name at the end.

Will this have any effect on a new game on 3rd with SC clear data? I was thinking of starting SC ng+ before 3rd comes out to carry over but if this causes issues there I may just start a whole new game on SC that doesn't keep my FC data, though that'll affect some of the dialogue I assume?
 

Psxphile

Member
Will this have any effect on a new game on 3rd with SC clear data? I was thinking of starting SC ng+ before 3rd comes out to carry over but if this causes issues there I may just start a whole new game on SC that doesn't keep my FC data, though that'll affect some of the dialogue I assume?
From what I've read, nothing status-or-inventory-wise carries over if you import a clear save from SC into The 3rd. The importing is only for the Bracer Level check: you get different bonuses depending on rank attained.

No SC clear save or clear save w/ lower than B rank = free Sepith
Clear Save w/ B rank = free Sepith and Moon Seal accessory
Clear Save w/ A rank = free Sepith, Moon and Sun Seal accessories

No chance to fudge stats or anything with this setup.
 

zakujanai

Member
From what I've read, nothing status-or-inventory-wise carries over if you import a clear save from SC into The 3rd. The importing is only for the Bracer Level check: you get different bonuses depending on rank attained.

No SC clear save or clear save w/ lower than B rank = free Sepith
Clear Save w/ B rank = free Sepith and Moon Seal accessory
Clear Save w/ A rank = free Sepith, Moon and Sun Seal accessories

No chance to fudge stats or anything with this setup.

Ah OK thanks, I'll stick with ng+ then since it shouldn't harm anything I carry over. Still am interesting little oddity though.
 

omgfloofy

Banned
I'm going to quickly add that the free sepith is immensely valuable. ;D

Spoilers from the beginning of 3rd- putting them behind a spoiler block in case you don't want to see them:
You lose all of your resources at the start of the game, this includes the quartz Kevin and Ries have in their orbments- it gets shattered, and you have to make use of the fragments to make new quartz and start over on your orbments.
 

Psxphile

Member
Actually, looking back... that seems like a mistake. Why would the game grant you free Sepith for not having an SC clear save? Maybe I read that wrong.
 

Stuart444

Member
Well due to all the spoiler tags that don't tell me which chapter the spoiler is from (unless you click back through tons of quotes), I've avoided this thread quite a bit but I'm now on Chapter 7 which makes me feel more comfortable being in here.

So far I've enjoyed the game a LOT. I'm kinda sad that I have to take
Zane into the next tower since he is lower leveled than the others and only two towers have poms :(. so gotta grind the slow way (aka non pom way) I guess *grumble grumble*

Still it's been a hell of a ride and one of my favourite things is the amount of unique dialogue depending on which character you take at points.

Even though I've not beaten it yet, I can't wait for the 3rd!

(I will be a little glad (and sad at the same time lol) when this game is over, I've played FC/SC non-stop for the past few weeks, finishing FC at 57 hours and currently in SC, I'm at 58 hours and counting. and when I say non-stop, I mean literally outside of the essentials like eating and sleeping XD)
 

Famassu

Member
It won't take long to get levels for Zane. The exp-gaining is balanced in a way that if someone is so severely underleveled that he/she is starting to feel a bit weak against enemies, you'll get tons of exp for that character and they'll catch up or at least get to a point where they'll start being more useful pretty quickly.
 

Stuart444

Member
It won't take long to get levels for Zane. The exp-gaining is balanced in a way that if someone is so severely underleveled that he/she is starting to feel a bit weak against enemies, you'll get tons of exp for that character and they'll catch up or at least get to a point where they'll start being more useful pretty quickly.

Yeah, I learned that quite quickly while doing the dungeon. It wasn't as much as if Poms were there (seeing 9999 exp on one character in the last area of that chapter was glorious. 6 poms dead and all <3)

True Distend also made him invincible (mostly) in the boss due to the stat boosts lasting for the whole fight.

Also (Chapter 7 last boss spoilers):

Renne is fucking LETHAL. I had to use retry several times just to get Kevin's S-Craft off before Renne could use hers because Renne's S-Craft kills 2+ people without fail. LETHAL. Even worse when I went in without accessories to protect against petrification so on my first try, I didn't even get a turn, everyone died before my turn came. Bloody hell.

I won after 3 or 4 tries, once I was able to block Renne's S-craft, she went down with no problem. However I still went into the second boss with only Tita alive because everyone else got stoned (she had something on that prevented all status effects thankfully). Reviving the others was rather quick so it wasn't too bad then.

Still fucking LETHAL
 

Chuy

Member
I'm guessing the
Axis Pillar
is the last part of the game since everything is level 90 or higher. That's kinda a problem when the party i'm using is barely in the 80 range. Basic encounter feels like a drawn out boss fight and my EP/CP usage to survive is reflecting that. Anyway to get easy exp at this part so it's not nearly as much of a pain? I'm going to rethink my party composition and orbment usage as well but I'm pretty confident leveling up will be a major help as well.
Also (Chapter 7 last boss spoilers):

Renne is fucking LETHAL. I had to use retry several times just to get Kevin's S-Craft off before Renne could use hers because Renne's S-Craft kills 2+ people without fail. LETHAL. Even worse when I went in without accessories to protect against petrification so on my first try, I didn't even get a turn, everyone died before my turn came. Bloody hell.

I won after 3 or 4 tries, once I was able to block Renne's S-craft, she went down with no problem. However I still went into the second boss with only Tita alive because everyone else got stoned (she had something on that prevented all status effects thankfully). Reviving the others was rather quick so it wasn't too bad then.

Still fucking LETHAL
Reading this reminded me of my horrible attempt at it.
Went in to the tower with Agate and Tita in order to level them up and wasn't planning on using them for the fight. Decided just to give it a shot in order what to expect but forgot to save before starting it meaning I wasn't nearly as prepared for it as I should've been and that I couldn't load my last save since it was at the start of the tower and I had spent at least a hour methodically searching it and leveling up. Cheesed it after a few tries by spamming the S-crafts before she could even do hers and destroyed the machines before they caused status aliments and reviving when necessary.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
I'm guessing the
Axis Pillar
is the last part of the game since everything is level 90 or higher. That's kinda a problem when the party i'm using is barely in the 80 range. Basic encounter feels like a drawn out boss fight and my EP/CP usage to survive is reflecting that. Anyway to get easy exp at this part so it's not nearly as much of a pain? I'm going to rethink my party composition and orbment usage as well but I'm pretty confident leveling up will be a major help as well.

Reading this reminded me of my horrible attempt at it.
Went in to the tower with Agate and Tita in order to level them up and wasn't planning on using them for the fight. Decided just to give it a shot in order what to expect but forgot to save before starting it meaning I wasn't nearly as prepared for it as I should've been and that I couldn't load my last save since it was at the start of the tower and I had spent at least a hour methodically searching it and leveling up. Cheesed it after a few tries by spamming the S-crafts before she could even do hers and destroyed the machines before they caused status aliments and reviving when necessary.

Autosave probably had your back here. I think it saves every time a new map is loaded.
 

zakujanai

Member
Yay~ One person understands. xD;

There's been a lot of people raging that 3rd won't be released for PSP in all of this. lol

I think a lot of us understand, the complainers just seem to be a very vocal minority. On the one hand, it's nice to see people so passionate about this series which I never dreamed would get this far in the west. On the other though they do my frigging head in banging on about it and attacking xseed.
 

omgfloofy

Banned
I think a lot of us understand, the complainers just seem to be a very vocal minority. On the one hand, it's nice to see people so passionate about this series which I never dreamed would get this far in the west. On the other though they do my frigging head in banging on about it and attacking xseed.

There was a guy who lost his mind on the XSEED forums about this, to the point that once he got banned (and that's a deal in of itself since Tom has the patience of a saint), he turned around and started attacking Hatsuu on twitter for how much "XSEED hates physical releases" ---because they weren't releasing SC physically....
 

Stuart444

Member
There was a guy who lost his mind on the XSEED forums about this, to the point that once he got banned (and that's a deal in of itself since Tom has the patience of a saint), he turned around and started attacking Hatsuu on twitter for how much "XSEED hates physical releases" ---because they weren't releasing SC physically....

I think I might have seen this happen. It rings a bell in the back of my mind >_<
 

Cqef

Member
There was a guy who lost his mind on the XSEED forums about this, to the point that once he got banned (and that's a deal in of itself since Tom has the patience of a saint), he turned around and started attacking Hatsuu on twitter for how much "XSEED hates physical releases" ---because they weren't releasing SC physically....

I think I might have seen this happen. It rings a bell in the back of my mind >_<

http://www.xseedgames.com/forum/index.php?threads/xseed-digital-releases.27574/page-6#post-902018 :V
 

Psxphile

Member
There was a guy who lost his mind on the XSEED forums about this, to the point that once he got banned (and that's a deal in of itself since Tom has the patience of a saint), he turned around and started attacking Hatsuu on twitter for how much "XSEED hates physical releases" ---because they weren't releasing SC physically....


This is a small bit of his tirade on twitter, too:

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He was basically throwing in random responses like this to everything Hatsuu tweeted, completely unrelated. It was kind of ridiculous.
John Smith had a simple choice to make; suck it up and realize that not every publisher can justify physical releases for PSP games post-2014... or Keep It Real™.
 

chaosblade

Unconfirmed Member
Is he the guy who makes those XSEED hate threads on 4chan?

XSEED has managed to get on the bad side of a number of people, some more vocal than others. At least a few people over the years have lashed out on their forums. One user was an active member in the community there and started getting annoyed when XSEED released Corpse Party digital only, but "let it slide" at the time. But when they announced Ys Oath/Origin for PC they totally lost it and went on pissy tirades and eventually requested that their account be deleted, vowing to never support another XSEED product again.

That PlayerOfGames guy (and his alts) is definitely the most persistent though. And Nightwolve has a pretty big bone to pick with XSEED and Tom in particular given their pre-XSEED history.
 

Chuy

Member
Finished it last night after grinding for a bit. Good god that was incredible. Really glad 3rd is coming over or i'd be highly disappointed. Comments about it that are coming to mind since I've had time to think over it a little:

I was kinda saddened that wasn't a sort of epilogue after the main events sort of like in FC after defeating Reverie but I assume that's what 3rd is along with advancing the plot of the overall series.

Playing on normal and the Enforcers kinda felt like a long but easy fights. Hell the same could be said about the final fights too sans Loewe but that was due to me not picking up on his copy gimmick as soon as I should have leading me to deal with at least 7+ of him. I was about level 90-91 with my team of Joshua, Estelle, Zane, and Father Kevin for these fights.

So what ever happened to Gilbert? I was kinda expecting him to show up again after him being "new and improved" and was let down a bit by that. I honestly enjoying beating the crap out of him and wanted to do so again.

It's not really explained what a "Anguis" is or at least what I recall. Assuming they're the ones entrusted with a task by the grandmaster to retrieve a item of the goddess' and the enforcers help in doing so?

So at the last phase of the final boss why exactly did the Aurole go ballistic?

Loved the morally grey church scene with Father Kevin at the end. While i suspected there was a lot more to his character due to observations and insight he had throughout the story this was a bit more than was I expected. Definitely interesting.

Cold Steel is essentially dealing with the Society in Erebonia because of the revelation of them manipulating the government correct and something is telling me the Haken Gate scene might be pretty important as well.

What are the song names of the last boss fights? Definitely want to relisten to that goodness again.

Additionally I almost started Cold Steel and was planning on finishing it before FC/SC what would I have been spoiled on if I had done as originally planned?

I think a lot of us understand, the complainers just seem to be a very vocal minority. On the one hand, it's nice to see people so passionate about this series which I never dreamed would get this far in the west. On the other though they do my frigging head in banging on about it and attacking xseed.
I would absolutely love if it if the 3rd was released on a portable system because It's so much easier on me and my life to just use a portable rather than a laptop but I release how insane it would be to try and bring a PSP game over to the west in 2017.

That being said though I definitely plan on rebuying the games on steam and replaying them at some point so I can import my save data to 3rd since i'm pretty sure there's no way to do psp->pc save data transfer.

This is a small bit of his tirade on twitter, too:

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He was basically throwing in random responses like this to everything Hatsuu tweeted, completely unrelated. It was kind of ridiculous.
That's insanity
 

Psxphile

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SC spoilers inbound

So what ever happened to Gilbert? I was kinda expecting him to show up again after him being "new and improved" and was let down a bit by that. I honestly enjoying beating the crap out of him and wanted to do so again.
After you escape the Glorious he shows up twice more: during Chapter 8 in an optional hidden quest and when you raid the Glorious looking for the Capuas, which is mandatory so I'm sure you've seen that one.


It's not really explained what a "Anguis" is or at least what I recall. Assuming they're the ones entrusted with a task by the grandmaster to retrieve a item of the goddess' and the enforcers help in doing so?
It's just a title denoting rank. So basically as you see it.


So at the last phase of the final boss why exactly did the Aurole go ballistic?
I assume the fact that the Sept-Terrion was supposed to be sentient had something to do with it. You don't stick the celestial equivalent of a rogue A.I. with an infinite power source in your crawl and expect to come out okay.
 

zakujanai

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I would absolutely love if it if the 3rd was released on a portable system because It's so much easier on me and my life to just use a portable rather than a laptop but I release how insane it would be to try and bring a PSP game over to the west in 2017.

That being said though I definitely plan on rebuying the games on steam and replaying them at some point so I can import my save data to 3rd since i'm pretty sure there's no way to do psp->pc save data transfer.

Those is the correct way to feel. I would be the same were it the other way round and I had to play it on portable because PC was somehow not viable. I will support these games any way they are released because I enjoy them and I know the staff working to bring them to the west care about them. Ultimately, they are not a charity and they need to be able to make enough from the games they produce on to keep themselves in work.
 

Eusis

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And Nightwolve has a pretty big bone to pick with XSEED and Tom in particular given their pre-XSEED history.
I think he might have been OK with it initially, but then turned into an asshole shortly after?

Though he's been an enormous asshole since the Oath fan patch days.
 
Finally beat the game. Time to read all the spoilers!

I'm missing 2 chests somehow for the treasure chest achievement. This is annoying as fuck.
 
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