The Office: Final Season |OT| It's better to burn out than it is to rust

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i liked the episode, and the ending was good because they built it up well and at least it brings something new to the table. Pam was especially great in that scene.

but seriously...where the hell is Andy? i like how they even got rid of him in the credits because they realized how idiotic his absence has been.
 
I may be the only one who busted out laughing when Pam started crying and they pretended the random audio guy from the "documentary crew" was consoling her.

God damn this show has become stupid as hell. I can't wait for next week!
 
Wow.. people are so salty here.

I really enjoyed the ending. Pam's acting was nice. Seeing the doc crew was a change they've been hinting for a while, and I think it was well done.
 
Grinchy said:
I may be the only one who busted out laughing when Pam started crying and they pretended the random audio guy from the "documentary crew" was consoling her.

God damn this show has become stupid as hell. I can't wait for next week!
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Yeah I admit I was laughing as well.

All the shit that has gone down over the years like adultery, real break ups and fights, no problem. But Pam has an argument about Jim missing a kids concert and suddenly it is "omg turn the cameras off time".
 
Yeah making the film crew appear out of nowhere didn't make any sense...
I think they are hinting that now Pam will seek consolment on that Brian guy, which I think would be the most stupid thing to ever appear on the show....
 
Ugh. Just had a terrible thought.

What if Jim hired the doc crew to chronicle his life for his 'future children' ?


It's a stupid idea, but I wouldn't put it passed them to do something like this.
 
Lionel Mandrake said:
I don't think they were supposed to be banging. I think it was supposed to imply that the doc crew is getting ready to call it a wrap or the production is falling apart.

Say what you will about it, it's the most interesting thing The Office has done in quite some time.
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this.
PhoenixSFT said:
Why the hell does everyone thing Pam's going to sleep with Brian, or that was even implied? The documentary crew's been filming them for years, you think they don't have any connection to the characters, or that they realize when things get way too personal? Dude was just comforting her, sheesh.
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and this.

i don't know why everyone thinks they're gonna be banging, or some infidelity storyline, i didn't even think towards that until i saw all the posts in this thread. i just see it as a means for the doc crew to finally start to wrap up their production. they've gotten so close to their 'subjects' over the years it's starting to cross a line that they no longer feel comfortable documenting certain aspects of their lives.
 
Quick said:
Would've been better to see Dwight comfort her, then tell the crew to shut the cameras off for a moment.
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this! that would have been much better, seeing as how i don't think the writers are implying a romantic relationship between pam and brian
 
bachikarn said:
I was so worried in Season 4 that there would be terrible Jim and Pam relationship drama. I guess they waited till Season 9 to finally play that card.
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There was a meta-joke for a whole season where each episode they set up some potential drama for them, and then side-stepped it entirely by have them act as reasonable adults. It was pretty subtle, but it was very consistent.
 
DrEvil said:
Ugh. Just had a terrible thought.

What if Jim hired the doc crew to chronicle his life for his 'future children' ?


It's a stupid idea, but I wouldn't put it passed them to do something like this.
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Ehhh, no, they followed Michael on his personal adventures, along with other people too often for that to be the case.
 
That ending was tough to watch. Mainly because out of all of the cast, Jim and Pam were the two that I figured would never have any conflict as a plot device.

There has to be a reason the people behind the camera were shown in that scene. Not sure how it will play out, but at least the Office is taking a chance at something in its last season.
 
nemss said:
That ending was tough to watch. Mainly because out of all of the cast, Jim and Pam were the two that I figured would never have any conflict as a plot device.

There has to be a reason the people behind the camera were shown in that scene. Not sure how it will play out, but at least the Office is taking a chance at something in its last season.
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I think what you said first is exactly why the documentary team intervened. Like us, the camera crew saw their relationship unfold and grow right before their eyes... we have to assume they were always rooting for them to succeed since that was such an integral part of their relationship. So for them to see Pam and Jim go through this is just as shocking and uncomfortable as it is to us.

They didn't say anything about infidelities between Dwight/Andy/Angela/Oscar because well, it doesn't matter as much. Can you say you were as emotionally invested in their relationship as you are in Jim and Pam's relationship? I think it would have been particularly stronger without those in-between whatever seasons prolonging the ending, but that's just how network TV is.
 
Flash said:
I think what you said first is exactly why the documentary team intervened. Like us, the camera crew saw their relationship unfold and grow right before their eyes... we have to assume they were always rooting for them to succeed since that was such an integral part of their relationship. So for them to see Pam and Jim go through this is just as shocking and uncomfortable as it is to us.

They didn't say anything about infidelities between Dwight/Andy/Angela/Oscar because well, it doesn't matter as much. Can you say you were as emotionally invested in their relationship as you are in Jim and Pam's relationship? I think it would have been particularly stronger without those in-between whatever seasons prolonging the ending, but that's just how network TV is.
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The question is, why did WE see the documentary crew? It doesn't make sense to me. We are watching something that the crew cut up and edited, so it wouldn't make sense for them to leave that in. This isn't a reality show, where something like that may show up, it's a documentary.

I understand them wanting to do something like this, but to me it breaks the illusion that I'm watching a documentary.
 
VanWinkle said:
The question is, why did WE see the documentary crew? It doesn't make sense to me. We are watching something that the crew cut up and edited, so it wouldn't make sense for them to leave that in. This isn't a reality show, where something like that may show up, it's a documentary.

I understand them wanting to do something like this, but to me it breaks the illusion that I'm watching a documentary.
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I think the premise is we're watching as they film it. Try not to think too hard about it.
 
Flash said:
I think what you said first is exactly why the documentary team intervened. Like us, the camera crew saw their relationship unfold and grow right before their eyes... we have to assume they were always rooting for them to succeed since that was such an integral part of their relationship. So for them to see Pam and Jim go through this is just as shocking and uncomfortable as it is to us.

They didn't say anything about infidelities between Dwight/Andy/Angela/Oscar because well, it doesn't matter as much. Can you say you were as emotionally invested in their relationship as you are in Jim and Pam's relationship? I think it would have been particularly stronger without those in-between whatever seasons prolonging the ending, but that's just how network TV is.
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It's still inconsistent, regardless of how attached they may or may not be to certain office staff. Angela hired someone to murder Oscar the camera crew did nothing to intervene. But Pam cries at her desk and they stop filming. In the same season, mere episodes apart. What?! Just like they did nothing to stop Dwight from burning down the office, like they did nothing when Michael attempted to pretend kill himself by jumping off the roof into a bouncy castle. Sloppy, inconsistent writing. Don't bother trying to defend or rationalize it, just accept that the show is ending and they've made mistakes along the way.

RangersFan said:
this.

and this.

i don't know why everyone thinks they're gonna be banging, or some infidelity storyline, i didn't even think towards that until i saw all the posts in this thread. i just see it as a means for the doc crew to finally start to wrap up their production. they've gotten so close to their 'subjects' over the years it's starting to cross a line that they no longer feel comfortable documenting certain aspects of their lives.
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Everybody knows if you're nice to women they will give you sex. -_-
 
Wow. They are going all out now. It's endgame time and they know it. They've had camera crew talk before, and have acknowledged them quite a few times, but never have we seen them.

Oh boy. I really like where this is going. But at the same time, I don't. Because it goes against everything I rooted for the first 3 seasons.

There's like 9 more episodes left. And Andy returns next week. And
someone gets fired! I bet it is Andy for leaving for months and leaving no replacement
, but that's probably too obvious.

I mean, it was a fight. But man, Jim has never been like that before. Ever. Especially not with Pam. I don't even want to speculate on what will happen. I just want to ride along. Plus Community returns the week after next. It's gonna be a hell of a fun trip.
 
In terms of firing I think the options are:

Dwight: because he was leaving for the failed spin off right? He could easily do something dumb to justify it these days and stay in character like blowing up a bridge.
Andy: for not being there... But I doubt this because he seems to have done better since being away. We are also not so lucky.
The guy erin is flirting with: is it pete? I care so little about him, but Andy firing him for flirting with Erin would be consistent with his zany actions we have missed so much. Would also allow that storyline to keep dragging on.
Nellie: because she doesn't have an actual job and even the writers must be losing sleep about how bad of a character she is.
Jim: to make the whole "business must succeed thing" more critical causing further conflict. This all or nothing scenario seems likely. Would also fit in well with the writing quality if Andy comes back and fires him for not being there enough.

But my favourite?

Pam: also does not have a real job and she lost that client to get the complaint and we all know how important continuity is with this show. It also allows Jim and Pam to be at a low point as his business falls apart so it can all come good again just in time for the end.

Calling the "sorry I can't do this important business thing I need to be with my wife" moment that ends with an investor being impressed with his actions and saving the day.

With michael as the new boss at the sporting agency just for kicks.
 
markot said:
I would like to see Jim and Pam get a divorce.

Happy endings are annoying.
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As a card carrying member of Team PB&J since season 1, I think this would be kind of interesting. But then I think of the children wouldn't want them to get affected.

I don't expect any cheating or anything. That would be way out of character. But I can see the marriage being somewhat affected. But then again, it was a little fight. People have fights. Jim was in a strange place and Pam was really sorry. He shouldn't have been that mad. But I can see where he was coming from after the day he had.
 
One of the things that annoyed me about the UK office was the happy endings in the christmas specials.

I know that the audience likes them, but sometimes (Most of the time) life isnt like that.

And honestly, I havent watched anything but like 2 eps of this season >.> ive mainly been reading this thread...

I kinda thought 'wtfffffff' when they decided to add 2 more characters to the show... because not enough characters was the main problem with the show....

Also they wernt very funny...
 
markot said:
One of the things that annoyed me about the UK office was the happy endings in the christmas specials.
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be prepared to be annoyed with the office US then.

there is no way that every character doesn't get a happy ending, especially jim and pam. this shaky moment in their marriage is only so they can get one more jim and pam happy moment before the series ends.
 
RangersFan said:
be prepared to be annoyed with the office US then.

there is no way that every character doesn't get a happy ending, especially jim and pam. this shaky moment in their marriage is only so they can get one more jim and pam happy moment before the series ends.
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Correct. We are in full on romantic comedy mode at this stage. Just a question of which episode has the Pam/Jim apart montage.
 
I liked it but the reveal at the end sucked. They recorded A LOT of emotional shit and now they want to reveal themselves after a little phone fight? Married couple has a fight news @11.

Every episode has been solid so far. Only 12 left, pretty crazy.
 
Going to be weird next fall not having 30 Rock and The Office, and potentially Parks and Recreation and Community.

End of an era on NBC.

J10 said:
Andy should come back and come out the closet. They've been teasing him being gay since he got there.
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Teasing? I don't think I've seen the hints. Though, I could just be oblivious to them.
 
Quick said:
Going to be weird next fall not having 30 Rock and The Office, and potentially Parks and Recreation and Community.

End of an era on NBC.



Teasing? I don't think I've seen the hints. Though, I could just be oblivious to them.
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When Jim went to work in Stamford, they got drunk together and he offered to share a twin air mattress with him in the office (accompanied by a strange look).

Holly told Michael that one of his employees proposed to another, Michael remarked that it was probably Andy to Angela, but that he could also see Andy proposing to Oscar.

Then in the episode where Michael was spreading false rumors about everyone, the one about Andy being gay, Andy got real defensive, asking if his college buddies had been talking to them, and then later in the episode he tells Oscar about a "scenario" where he resists a kiss from Brad Pitt but Brad still needs to get to him, then at the end he flat out asks Michael if he's gay (so at the very least he has some conflicting feelings about his sexuality).

And then there was the episode where he compares his relationship to Erin with things like cars and football and Mad Men, he's knows he's supposed to like them, but for some reason he doesn't.

There have been tons of hints over the years. I had always assumed when the show ended they'd come back around to it.
 
New episode listings:
There are only 10 half-hour episodes left, plus a one hour series finale.

JANUARY 31st:
9x13 "Junior Salesman" said:
Dwight brings back old friends — David Wallace tasks Dwight with finding a new part time salesman to fill in for Jim. Dwight assembles a super-team of his cronies, starting with Mose. Pam tries to figure out who will be her new desk mate. Erin tries to find her birth parents with Pete’s help.
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JANUARY 31st:
9x14 "Vandalism" said:
Pam’s warehouse mural is defaced — when Pam asks the office to help her track down the vandal who defaced her mural, Dwight and Nellie spring to action. Darryl has difficulty dealing with the cleanliness habits of Jim in their shared Philly apartment. Meanwhile, Angela grudgingly allows Oscar and Kevin to attend her son’s first birthday party.
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FEBRUARY 7th:
9x15 "Couple's Discount" said:
TBD
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FEBRUARY 14th:
9x16 "Moving On" said:
TBD
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FEBRUARY 21st:
9x17 "The Farm" said:
Failed backdoor pilot, with new material to make it fit in the current season.
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So we get two episodes next week, potentially sandwiching the 30 rock finale.

Someone fucks with Pam's mural in the warehouse in 'Vandalism' -- which is presumably the grounds for someone being fired in the next episode (couple's discount?)

As for Pam and Jim.. if they divorced over one little fight, that's one fuckin weak marriage.. Especially after the whole 'Tempting Jim' thing with that other girl who vanished and who's name I can't remember had absolutely zero fallout.
 
Quick said:
Going to be weird next fall not having 30 Rock and The Office, and potentially Parks and Recreation and Community.

End of an era on NBC.
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Has a network ever cancelled an entire night of programming all at one time?
 
How anyone can extract a hint of infidelity between sound dude and Pam in this past episode's ending is beyond me.
 
Trey said:
How anyone can extract a hint of infidelity between sound dude and Pam in this past episode's ending is beyond me.
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lol what

They're not really going to break Jim and Pam up. The Philly thing will work out and the whole family is going to move there. The Office will have a happy ending -- I'd be shocked if they did something other than that.
 
Link said:
Has a network ever cancelled an entire night of programming all at one time?
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Vox-Pop said:
Pretty sure Parks will stay......I hope.
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Yeah, I hope Parks stays. It'll be all that's left next season if Community doesn't get picked up. I mean what else are they going to put there? Whitney? Wait, is Whitney still on? Maybe reruns of Seinfeld and Friends that they can show to the new TV watching generation, many of which are only seeing it for the first time. The return of "If you haven't seen it, it's new to you!"

OnPoint said:
lol what

They're not really going to break Jim and Pam up. The Philly thing will work out and the whole family is going to move there. The Office will have a happy ending -- I'd be shocked if they did something other than that.
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I think this weeks episode was just to show that the perfect Jim and Pam relationship isn't as perfect as they make it look. And the reaction from the camera crew shows that they've probably had fights before but never show them. This was just one of the crew saying enough is enough. This is "real life" and coming through the fourth wall to be there for someone they've gotten to know really well over 9 years.

I wonder if they have any more scenes like that coming up or if this was a one-off thing.
 
The Real Abed said:
Yeah, I hope Parks stays. It'll be all that's left next season if Community doesn't get picked up. I mean what else are they going to put there? Whitney? Wait, is Whitney still on? Maybe reruns of Seinfeld and Friends that they can show to the new TV watching generation, many of which are only seeing it for the first time. The return of "If you haven't seen it, it's new to you!"
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WE COMEDY!
 
The Real Abed said:
The return of "If you haven't seen it, it's new to you!"
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I remember thinking this was a stroke of marketing genius when I was young. Of course, back then, if you missed a new episode of something, your only option was to hope to catch it during a week they ran it as a rerun, and if you missed it that time, you were screwed.

Truly the dark ages.
 
Quick said:
Going to be weird next fall not having 30 Rock and The Office, and potentially Parks and Recreation and Community.

End of an era on NBC.
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Parks & Recreation is definitely safe. It's currently doing better than 1600 Penn, Whitney, Go On, and The New Normal. It will absolutely return next season. There's nothing to worry about.
 
G0523 said:
Parks & Recreation is definitely safe. It's currently doing better than 1600 Penn, Whitney, Go On, and The New Normal. It will absolutely return next season. There's nothing to worry about.
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Good.

Speaking of 1600 Penn, I actually like it.
 
I have almost always loved the Pam and Jim stuff, and last night was no different. The episode was a turd, but I really liked the ending, and after viewing a married couple's recent fight, it felt fresh and authentic. I still believe Pam is the best actor on the show.

The problem, other than the incredibly stupid decision to have a random crew comfort Pam, is that all of this is too late. This should have happened in the early episodes. At this point, after 2 seasons of shit, who cares?

Who cares?

Honestly, I truly feel that the people who defend the show, who like the recent episodes, are morons. It is bad. Period. End of story. It is garbage.

Sure, there are moments of greatness, and they usually involve Pam, who is the best actor on the show, (like Vera Farmiga does the best acting in The Departed, with Matt Damon closely behind her), but everything else is garbage.

Does no one care that the head of this branch is absent on a boat? Does no one care that Nelly has completely transformed in a few episodes? Does no one care?

Does no one care that Toby, the untouchable of the show, is now being bogged down by the ridiculousness of the show's current garbage?

The last thing I wrote about The Office, in detail, was on my crappy website, but after tonight, I feel like so much of my time was wasted. Who is thinking this stuff is good? Who?

Who are these morons?

I just don't care anymore. I don't. Rest in piece, and all that.
 
I bought the season pass on iTunes for this season because, like most shows I enjoy, I stick with it through the decline in quality that I know is coming. I should have known that halfway through the season, the season pass being on sale for $20 should have told me something. The sad thing is, I have the latest 4 episodes just sitting there, and I have 0 motivation to watch them. This show is basically unrecognizable at this point. Even Kevin's "build it wider UP" type comments seem too ridiculous, and I used to laugh so hard at things like him putting his feet in the ice maker while saying "My dogs are barkin'!". What the hell happened.
 
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