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So. Um. I finally arrived at all the locations for the Paradise Falls enslaving quest, and find that I no longer have the Mesmetron on me. I must have sold it by accident over the past 60 hours of play or so. :(

Is there a way to get it back, or get a second one? The jerk at Paradise Falls will only sell me ammo.

Found
my dad. That was really weird. I figured he wouldn't last long once I realized it was Liam Neeson doing the voice - he's this game's Patrick Stewart from Oblivion. So he's dead, and I'm hoping I get to fight him as some sort of super mutant later.
 
GhaleonEB said:
So. Um. I finally arrived at all the locations for the Paradise Falls enslaving quest, and find that I no longer have the Mesmetron on me. I must have sold it by accident over the past 60 hours of play or so. :(
As far as I know, it's a unique item. You'd think they'd keep a few more lying around Paradise Falls, but I've never found a second one. So you're screwed out of that quest on your current guy, though if you care about the achievement you can always go back to an old save... you have been keeping old saves, haven't you? This is an RPG after all. Need to keep a backlog of saves for just such an occasion. You also need to store anything you're not using in a locker to keep from selling or dropping things you might need later.
 
Aaron said:
As far as I know, it's a unique item. You'd think they'd keep a few more lying around Paradise Falls, but I've never found a second one. So you're screwed out of that quest on your current guy, though if you care about the achievement you can always go back to an old save... you have been keeping old saves, haven't you? This is an RPG after all. Need to keep a backlog of saves for just such an occasion. You also need to store anything you're not using in a locker to keep from selling or dropping things you might need later.
Aye, I haven't gone back and cleaned up my old saves; there's probably a few hundred at this point. I might wrap up that quest after I start running out of things to do (which is a long ways off, the way things keep cropping up). It would be nice if the game would mark unique items that you sold and keep them at the seller permanently so quests wouldn't get ruined. Alas.

Thanks for the answer.
 
GhaleonEB said:
It would be nice if the game would mark unique items that you sold and keep them at the seller permanently so quests wouldn't get ruined. Alas.

Thanks for the answer.

Quest-Items usually can't be dropped and need to be in your inventory. But it seems like the Mesmetron is an exeption.
 
Marvie_3 said:
Anyone else run into Uncle Leo? I've put over 500 hours in this game and I just met him for the first time. :lol
I sure have :D He was just standing outside southwest of Megaton for me when I was lvl 3 or so. He seems to be moving around though for he was not there later on or with my other character.
 
Karud said:
Quest-Items usually can't be dropped and need to be in your inventory. But it seems like the Mesmetron is an exeption.
Oddly you can't drop the slave collars, even though they're useless without it. Of course, it's yet another thing that takes two seconds to fix in the PC version.
 
Luckily I never threw anything away. ^^ I stored everything in my Megaton house. e v e r y t h i n g. My junk collection was huge (just “useful“ stuff, not empty nukas, or tin can's). I must have had about 50 lawnmoar blades and similar amounts of the other stuff.
 
Just bought the GOTY version yesterday (thanks Steam!). I forgot how utterly awesome it is. I'm happy I finally get to play the DLC that I missed out on playing it on the 360.

The sound is somewhat of an issue though. It stutters just enough to be slightly annoying.
 
Minamu said:
I sure have :D He was just standing outside southwest of Megaton for me when I was lvl 3 or so. He seems to be moving around though for he was not there later on or with my other character.
Yeah, I found him right outside Vault 112.
 
Minamu said:
Counting the autosave, I have 11 files and most are 5 or 6 MB each. I've made about 90 saves in total though but most are just overwritten and I decided to delete a few a while back. I'm kinda OCD over free space on hard drives :lol

Edit: Well shit! That came back fast to bite me in the ass :lol The achievement for Scientific Pursuits never unlocked because I cleared out Jefferson Memorial before I was supposed to (dit it before I even found Rivet City and Three Dog). Since I was dumb enough to delete my saves, my oldest save is from lvl 15 which isn't good enough. Back to lvl 1 yeehaw!
You might just want to keep going. I did the Jefferson Memorial early too and the game said I completed the Follow In His Footsteps quest but the trophy didn't unlock until waaaay later when I finally went to Galaxy News Radio. It could be something similar to that.
 
A few more thoughts, glitches edition.

Fallout 3 is glitchy as fuck. (I'm on the 360 version.)

More and more I'm noticing just how poor the QA is in this game, even after the updates. My favorite was at the house of that dude in the capitol who had the two women as his sex slaves (or rather, semi-willing partners). After determining they were of no use to me, I remove heads from shoulders using the combat shotgun. And Fantasia's head starts levetating off the ground, very, very slowly. Like, about a foot every five seconds. It just rises straight up. I laugh, and go looting the house. While I'm upstairs, the head pokes up through the floor. I watch as it floats up and through the ceiling, and out of sight, oddly mesmerized. It didn't remain loaded when I went outside, sadly.

Other random glitches/issues:

Lots of places to get permanently stuck. One of them was right outside of a tunnel, in that town with the two dudes dressing up and fighting each other. Step outside, take one step forward, land in rocks and get stuck. Have to reload and step to the side. You'd think it would be obvious enough a spot to fix.

Behavior scripts going haywire. Favorite example: after snagging the
G.E.C.K. and getting captured,
I'm wandering though the facility. And there's this Enclave troop walking past me, who spots a roach in the duct work below the floor. He just loses it. After twitching all over the place, he yells out something like, "Attack pattern delta!" at which point he spins rapidly on an axis, the roach directly under him. Dunno, maybe he just hates roaches or something?

My daughter and I were freaked out by a Deathclaw that, after I got it down to two health bars, flew straight up into the sky until he disappeared, like a comet in reverse. He showed up again a few seconds later, charged me, and then flew up into the sky a second time. The third time he showed up - still on his last legs - I sniped him dead at range.

And tonight, following the giant
robot as it makes its way to the purifier.
The first time, he stepped out of the way of something, and then got stuck. He and those following him just came to a halt. After five minutes of them standing still, I reload the save and start the march over. Then, just now, he gets past that part and the game has a hard crash; I have to turn the system off to clear it. (I'll try to get past that bit tomorrow.) It's a climactic moment in the game and it's just a huge mess. You'd think they would pay special attention to this kind of sequence.

Floating rocks and debris in the waste land, enemy AI that often breaks or goes crazy, object interaction glitches galore. And why does it rain robots from the sky when I fast travel in the wasteland? Half the time after loading there's this huge crash as dead robots land around me. WTF?

And of course, that one ant tunnel that (still) just crashes every time I try to go in it.

And there's a LOT of mini-quests that don't show up as such. I wish they did, and that there was a better log keeping system; one giant unfilterable list of notes doesn't cut it.

Still having a good time, but with the level cap at 20 - which I hit over 20 hours ago - there's no leveling up to motivate me to engage enemies without a need. I can't believe the leveling cap was set so low; I keep thinking I'll get some point in the quest where I'll get to level again - the meter is set tantalizingly to show level 21 on it - but from what I've read, this is it. Seems like a very poorly thought out idea.

The highlight of tonight was freeing that
super mutant, who went and got the G.E.C.K. for me. Having him cleaning up guys after I met Eden was a nice touch.
I still told him to piss off, but I let him live as he was such a fun character.

I'm out of side quests now, aside from needing a few more Quantums, so I'm resigned to just plowing through the main quest. Story's been good so far, though.
 
GhaleonEB said:

Same boat here, my friend. My first play through on 360 two years ago, not a single glitch. Now the past two run throughs I've done have been riddled with crashes, hiccups, freezing, graphical oddities, the whole nine yards. Hopefully Obsidian's QA with New Vegas will be a little more thorough.


Speaking of which, I cleared it with Evilore, and I've got the official New Vegas thread coming October 12th. :D
 
disappeared said:
Speaking of which, I cleared it with Evilore, and I've got the official New Vegas thread coming October 12th. :D
Looking forward to it!

So, finally got all the achievements. It's only the second time I've done so, and it was worth every minute. Each playthrough felt different. So many places to explore.

I sure wish GNR reached all the way to New Vegas. :D
 
If you had the Broken Steel DLC, it raises the level cap to 30. They did it mainly because people complained the cap was so low. I'm currently playing the game on the PC with heavy mods, so leveling is much slower and more satisfying when you actually get a perk (plus more perks to choose from). Of course, mods run the risk of breaking the game even more. Crashes and crazy behavior are just part of these sorts of games.
 
Ledsen said:
whyyyyy didn't you buy Broken Steel 20 hours ago :(
Because it's $10, and I'm not into buying DLC for games that I'm nowhere near finished with. That, and I didn't know it raised the level cap. At any rate, I'll wait until I've finished up the rest of the content to look to the DLC; this is a tweener game to tide me over until Reach as I don't expect I'll be working on it for a good long while after. If I need more quests to tide me over, I'll look into it.
 
GhaleonEB said:
Lots of places to get permanently stuck.
I hate this so much. At one point I hadn't saved for ~3 hours, got stuck, and had to reload(had autosaves off due to glitching). So pissed.

NoRéN said:
So, finally got all the achievements. It's only the second time I've done so, and it was worth every minute. Each playthrough felt different. So many places to explore.

I sure wish GNR reached all the way to New Vegas. :D
Congrats dude!

I really hope the soundtrack for NV is as good as the one for F3. As far as the exploration goes, I'm still finding new places to explore. For instance, I found LOB Enterprises for the first time yesterday. :lol
 
Beat it just now, after the ending sequence glitched a few times. Not really sure what to think - the ending moment was confusing and rushed. I didn't quite understand why
I had to activate the filter system, or why it was a one-way trip. I wasn't taking very many rads. I opted to go in myself and do it, but I had no idea I was near the end of the game. I had so much more I wanted to do, and the main quest felt like it was just getting warmed up.

Per tradition, now that I'm through it, I'm reading reviews. And the first one posted in the thread was IGN, which states,

And there is a true end to this game. Once you finish Fallout 3 and view the ending, you're booted back to the main menu. You'll have to load up a prior save if you want to continue exploring with that character.
D'oh. I preferred Oblivion's approach of ending the game, but letting me wander the (changed) world after. This was pretty unsatisfying. And since the entire ending was so glitchy, it's left a poor taste in my mouth after.
 
tomchoucrew said:
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OH GOD PLEASE BE THE NEW BOZAR
 
GhaleonEB said:
Beat it just now, after the ending sequence glitched a few times. Not really sure what to think - the ending moment was confusing and rushed. I didn't quite understand why
I had to activate the filter system, or why it was a one-way trip. I wasn't taking very many rads. I opted to go in myself and do it, but I had no idea I was near the end of the game. I had so much more I wanted to do, and the main quest felt like it was just getting warmed up.

Per tradition, now that I'm through it, I'm reading reviews. And the first one posted in the thread was IGN, which states,


D'oh. I preferred Oblivion's approach of ending the game, but letting me wander the (changed) world after. This was pretty unsatisfying. And since the entire ending was so glitchy, it's left a poor taste in my mouth after.

Again, should have bought Broken Steel. It takes place after the ending.
 
rainking187 said:
Again, should have bought Broken Steel. It takes place after the ending.
The ending ticked me off enough that I'm not keen on buying DLC right now, but if there's no good XBLA games to tide me over until Reach, I may spring for it. Some reasons I was surprised the game ended when it did:

Did the G.E.C.K. work? I spent so much time getting it, only to see it get stolen. But then the game ends without dealing with it at all.

Ditto with President Eden. I was sure that after his reveal part of the end game would be the assault on that fortress and the effort to unplug him. But after his reveal, the game forgets him entirely.

And likewise for Project Purity: did it work? What happened? It was the point of the entire game, but I don't see the conclusion.

From the story threads that were being sown, I thought the ending would entail: storming Project Purity and taking it back, then regrouping and taking on President Eden to unplug him and get the G.E.C.K back, to see Project Purity through to the end (for better or ill). But the game just abandons all the main story threads before they go anywhere. Very, very abrupt and anticlimactic ending.

I may back out and have some fun with the world from my last save; got some revenge to serve, a few more Quantums to find, and a couple towns to slaughter. So still plenty to do.
 
Oh yeah, finished the game tonight as well :O 1000 points GET! Actually more since I did O:A after I had done all the side stuff (would NOT want to play Vault 87 on lvl 30 without using the Gary 23 glitch).

My clock says about 76 hours. In that time I've had two freezes, one time getting stuck in a cliff, two main quests getting glitched so no achievements and some pretty damn minor glitches with items floating etc. Apart from achievements not unlocking, I find this quite acceptable.
 
GhaleonEB said:
I may back out and have some fun with the world from my last save; got some revenge to serve, a few more Quantums to find, and a couple towns to slaughter. So still plenty to do.
Pretty much all of your spoiler stuff is answered in Broken Steel. That's considered the true ending of the game after the fan uproar to the ending the game shipped with. Broken Steel offers a good amount of content besides raising the level cap and fixing the ending. I think you're better off getting it sooner than later. The other DLC you can easily hold off on.
 
Mr Nightman said:
My friend has fallout 3 goty with all dlc for pc, can I use the dlc dvd with my standard copy of fallout 3?

Yes. Bethesda's never really been a stickler on DRM. All you have to do is install the second disc and then use your original Fallout 3 disc to play the game.


EviLore said:
What in the world? New Vegas screens posted here?

ShackNews and MTV both posted hands-on with New Vegas with those screens. I thought about making a new thread, but the articles weren't really that substantial.


edit: 13,000!!!
 
Mr Nightman said:
My friend has fallout 3 goty with all dlc for pc, can I use the dlc dvd with my standard copy of fallout 3?
It works on the 360 at least. Seems to be worth the money though. There are no horse armors in it anyway.
 
rainking187 said:
Again, should have bought Broken Steel. It takes place after the ending.


My biggest problem with Broken Steel was the new Scorpion, Ghoul and Super Mutant enemies. They weren't more challenging, just really really annoying with way to much HP, nothing really killed them effectively.
 
DrForester said:
My biggest problem with Broken Steel was the new Scorpion, Ghoul and Super Mutant enemies. They weren't more challenging, just really really annoying with way to much HP, nothing really killed them effectively.

CSS + Shishkebab
 
DrForester said:
My biggest problem with Broken Steel was the new Scorpion, Ghoul and Super Mutant enemies. They weren't more challenging, just really really annoying with way to much HP, nothing really killed them effectively.
When I was playing on console, I just left the ghoul mask on all the time, I hated those Reavers. On PC I just made some bigger guns. :D
 
Heh, I had no idea that those enemies weren't in the original game :S Vault 87 was a pain in the ass because of 95% Overlords. CSS and Gauss Rifle helped a bit but not a whole lot... If I ever replay the game, I'm not gonna install Broken Steel until it's necessary :S

Is it ever explained who it is that sends the Talon Company after you if you play as a good guy? The ambushes are annoying :D And I'd like to know who hates me so :(
 
Minamu said:
Heh, I had no idea that those enemies weren't in the original game :S Vault 87 was a pain in the ass because of 95% Overlords. CSS and Gauss Rifle helped a bit but not a whole lot... If I ever replay the game, I'm not gonna install Broken Steel until it's necessary :S

Is it ever explained who it is that sends the Talon Company after you if you play as a good guy? The ambushes are annoying :D And I'd like to know who hates me so :(
Nope. I think the ambushes are fun because you can crush the chumps in a couple seconds. :lol
 
Marvie_3 said:
Nope. I think the ambushes are fun because you can crush the chumps in a couple seconds. :lol
The wiki site mentioned that they're under contract from an unknown organization to create chaos in the region so maybe that's who is after me :)

Mr Nightman said:
now will the dlc disc work with my steam version?
That's a tougher question :lol Unless anyone else knows, try asking in the Steam thread (or on gamefaqs, they're bound to know).
 
I have dilemma. I finished Fallout 3 almost 2 years ago (a couple of weeks after it came out). I absolutely adore this game, and am going through a withdrawal. I really want to play it, but am afraid if I start playing it now, I'm going to burn myself out for New Vegas. Should I play it or not?
 
Minamu said:
The wiki site mentioned that they're under contract from an unknown organization to create chaos in the region so maybe that's who is after me :)
Most likely, but you still never find out exactly who they are. :lol

I also like going to Fort Bannister and mowing down all the Talon mercs there. :lol
 
Minamu said:
The wiki site mentioned that they're under contract from an unknown organization to create chaos in the region so maybe that's who is after me :)

If you take the Contract Killer perk you get to meet a representative of this organization. He's stationed in the junkyard where you find Dogmeat. But, yeah, he's not very forthcoming with information on his purpose for eliminating the good guys.

ProudClod said:
I have dilemma. I finished Fallout 3 almost 2 years ago (a couple of weeks after it came out). I absolutely adore this game, and am going through a withdrawal. I really want to play it, but am afraid if I start playing it now, I'm going to burn myself out for New Vegas. Should I play it or not?

I know the feeling, but personally I'd wait. It's already obvious that the two games are going to be very similar, and I'd want New Vegas to feel as fresh as possible when it's released.
 
Pitch Black Flint said:
If you take the Contract Killer perk you get to meet a representative of this organization. He's stationed in the junkyard where you find Dogmeat. But, yeah, he's not very forthcoming with information on his purpose for eliminating the good guys.
I would assume that my good-willed nature goes against their wishes for the region, given the contract with Talon Company, which is to do everything in their power to keep the Wasteland disorganized and in chaos. I suppose that would go against all their super mutant battles though :lol They're not exactly organized or smart enough to create a functioning society.
 
Headed down to Point Lookout over the past weekend, since I'm staying nearby for a few weeks for business travel... was a bit disappointed to find that it doesn't have any Punga Fruit, crazy mutant rednecks, just a bunch of regular people fishing... and the lighthouse is pretty small. Oh well.
 
Minamu said:
Counting the autosave, I have 11 files and most are 5 or 6 MB each. I've made about 90 saves in total though but most are just overwritten and I decided to delete a few a while back. I'm kinda OCD over free space on hard drives :lol

Edit: Well shit! That came back fast to bite me in the ass :lol The achievement for Scientific Pursuits never unlocked because I cleared out Jefferson Memorial before I was supposed to (dit it before I even found Rivet City and Three Dog). Since I was dumb enough to delete my saves, my oldest save is from lvl 15 which isn't good enough. Back to lvl 1 yeehaw!
me said:
You might just want to keep going. I did the Jefferson Memorial early too and the game said I completed the Follow In His Footsteps quest but the trophy didn't unlock until waaaay later when I finally went to Galaxy News Radio. It could be something similar to that.
Maybe I spoke too soon. I just finished
Raven Rock
and noticed the Scientific Pursuits trophy didn't unlock (though I kinda swear I saw it had, which is what tipped me off to Following in His Footsteps not unlocking). Maybe it'll somehow unlock later did for me, but I doubt it.

Guess I'll get Broken Steel to keep the game going.
 
From my research, the achievement at GNR can be achieved out of order if you go back there, like you say. However, I haven't seen a single soul had that luck with Jefferson Memorial. And I've looked on 4 sites, counting this thread. I started up a new character on very easy and ran to Rivet City at lvl 2 though and then did the main quest properly up to Vault 112, and got the achievement in just about 2 hours. No biggie. I read that it had unlocked for someone that had run directly to 112 on lvl 2, straight out of the vault, after you finish that particular quest. But, unless I was supposed to play along there, it didn't work for me.

Achievements are serious business :lol
 
questions here!!

never play fallout 3 before.. should i wait for fallout 3: vegas??
or get fallout3. goty version?
i have both ps3 and 360, and i heard the ps3 version is very glitchy and freeze a lot.. so is the 360 version better? should i just get the vanilla fallout 3?

thanks :)
 
D23 said:
questions here!!

never play fallout 3 before.. should i wait for fallout 3: vegas??
or get fallout3. goty version?
i have both ps3 and 360, and i heard the ps3 version is very glitchy and freeze a lot.. so is the 360 version better? should i just get the vanilla fallout 3?

thanks :)

I don't think you'd go wrong with either, unless New Vegas somehow ends up being crappy. And 360 would be better than PS3, yeah. Unless you have a good PC, then that would be the best choice.
 
D23 said:
questions here!!

never play fallout 3 before.. should i wait for fallout 3: vegas??
or get fallout3. goty version?
i have both ps3 and 360, and i heard the ps3 version is very glitchy and freeze a lot.. so is the 360 version better? should i just get the vanilla fallout 3?

thanks :)

You should

Get the 360 GOTY version today.
Get addicted.
Play for 70-100 hours.
Start getting hyped for New Vegas.

In that order.
 
Yeah, getting Fallout 3 will have the added benefit of tiding you over till New Vegas is released though you may or may not be burnt out on it then. Either way, I would get Fallout 3 anyways.
 
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