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[backflip10019]

Is it just me, or is this "you must aim ahead of your targets with the BR" not working? I watched a few videos of mine and I was CLEARLY leading my targets. The reticle was still red, but I didn't score a single hit. These were from a small distance.

Aiming ahead only works for longer distances for me. If it's a short distance, aim for the upper neck/chin area.

 

[GhaleonEB]

More PAX News on Bungie.net - http://www.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=news&cid=14894

Bad News: Fanfest has been delayed (this probably means we won't see the new project before or at PAX because it seems to have been delayed because of the unexpected delayed announcement of their next project. )

Good News: Those who go to PAX can get hands-on with new Halo 3 Multiplayer Content, and even have the chance to face off against Luke and Shishka for Recon armor. Prizes and swag ftw. Their booth is also right next to RoosterTeeth's

Ah, that sucks. Curses.

It does sound like the next project won't be announced by then.

 

[kylej]

Original announce date: July 14th(?)


New announce date: September or later.


:|

Hey at least we have cryptic 400 word Weekly Updates to look forward to.

 

[alisdair]

I watched a few videos of mine and I was CLEARLY leading my targets. The reticle was still red, but I didn't score a single hit. These were from a small distance.

Maybe put the videos up on your fileshare.

There's always lag to blame, of course, but leading your shots really does work at medium to long range. Basically, if you don't have to scope to get red-reticule, you don't really need to lead your shot.

 

[Dirtbag]

Now that's some really bad news
Fan fest delayed!!

Way to go MS..... WAY. TO. GO.
This will be my only trip to seattle. that sucks.

 

[BladedExpert]

Maybe put the videos up on your fileshare.

There's always lag to blame, of course, but leading your shots really does work at medium to long range. Basically, if you don't have to scope to get red-reticule, you don't really need to lead your shot.

This. Unless of course the host is in the USA and you're in the UK. Then you need to lead almost every shot. The games I get a yuropean host are glorious indeed

 

[xxjuicesxx]

That's why I never liked the leading shots system. First off in H3 the BR shots are WAY too slow, its not even realistic as a gun. Second theres no distance or math to it as solid rule. So you don't exactly know when to lead when not to, when you are hitting headshots and when you are not. Add in the randomness of the BR three burst spread and that equals a bunch of bullshit.

H2's BR system > H3's. Fact.

 

[TDG]

Now that's some really bad news
Fan fest delayed!!

Way to go MS..... WAY. TO. GO.
This will be my only trip to seattle. that sucks.

Oh who cares it's business. Besides, one-trick pony Bungie should've controlled their ego and not blamed MS amirite?

 

[The Librarian]

H2's BR system > H3's. Fact.

:lol No. BR was an all purpose weapon because no matter what range you were at, all three bullets landed on their target, making the weapon overpowered.

 

[EazyB]

Looking at some of your recent TS games, you're being carried by 50s against lower level teams. Id say you don't deserve a 50, but I haven't played with you. I wouldn't mind a stats reset to implement a new system, Id just like to keep my general rank please.

While I am by no means as good as the 50s I play with I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm being carried. If you really want to you could probably add up my kills and deaths in each match and I'm willing to bet it's significantly positive.

More PAX News on Bungie.net - http://www.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=news&cid=14894

Bad News: Fanfest has been delayed (this probably means we won't see the new project before or at PAX because it seems to have been delayed because of the unexpected delayed announcement of their next project. )

Good News: Those who go to PAX can get hands-on with new Halo 3 Multiplayer Content, and even have the chance to face off against Luke and Shishka for Recon armor. Prizes and swag ftw. Their booth is also right next to RoosterTeeth's

Fucking lame.

This news has me pretty pissed and I can't believe how mad I'd be if I'd invested anything in this trip. Some people are paying an upwards of $500 (in some cases much more) to go to this event primarily for Bungie. At this point I almost wish Bungie does whatever they'd have to do to complete their remaining exclusivity agreement (rush 2 absolute shit games out) and breaks all ties with MS. Bungie can be successful without them and I'm sure any other publisher would be delighted to release the next AAA Bungie title.

 

[The Librarian]

This news has me pretty pissed and I can't believe how mad I'd be if I'd invested anything in this trip. Some people are paying an upwards of $500 (in some cases much more) to go to this event primarily for Bungie. At this point I almost wish Bungie does whatever they'd have to do to complete their remaining exclusivity agreement (rush 2 absolute shit games out) and breaks all ties with MS. Bungie can be successful without them and I'm sure any other publisher would be delighted to release the next AAA Bungie title.

Ummmmm, Bungie isn't forcing anyone to go or spend money, nor have they ever hinted at the possibility that they would announce their next game at PAX. I don't understand what you are complaining about.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

Second theres no distance or math to it as solid rule. So you don't exactly know when to lead when not to, when you are hitting headshots and when you are not.

I don't agree with that, it is just that the other factors like lag and the spread make it harder to be 100% with the BR. I had done some BR testing on Foundry. I'll have to see if I can find the results and share them.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Ummmmm, Bungie isn't forcing anyone to go or spend money, nor have they ever hinted that they would announce their next game at PAX. I don't understand what you are complaining about.

They have said explicitly that this was *the* year for Bungie fans to come to PAX, on multiple occasions. It's clear their initial plans have been scaled back, from that to "Halo 3 multiplayer content".

I'm still there, of course. Should be a hoot. But they have scaled expectations down dramatically.

 

[Nutter]

Fucking lame.

This news has me pretty pissed and I can't believe how mad I'd be if I'd invested anything in this trip. Some people are paying an upwards of $500 (in some cases much more) to go to this event primarily for Bungie. At this point I almost wish Bungie does whatever they'd have to do to complete their remaining exclusivity agreement (rush 2 absolute shit games out) and breaks all ties with MS. Bungie can be successful without them and I'm sure any other publisher would be delighted to release the next AAA Bungie title.

This is extremely LAME.

If the only thing we are going to Seattle for are the chance to play the new maps. (which is good in its own case, but we were promised more) then that will be one expensive map tryout. I do not have to invest in a ticket, but even driving up to Seattle is like a mini investment.

 

[vhfive]

H2's BR system > H3's. Fact.

:lol
because button combos were so awesome

 

[Hero]

Who here on GAF is supposed to be good?

 

[Blueblur1]

This news has me pretty pissed and I can't believe how mad I'd be if I'd invested anything in this trip. Some people are paying an upwards of $500 (in some cases much more) to go to this event primarily for Bungie.

Try $800.

 

[Nutter]

Ummmmm, Bungie isn't forcing anyone to go or spend money, nor have they ever hinted at the possibility that they would announce their next game at PAX. I don't understand what you are complaining about.

We were told, like Ghaleon said, PAX will be the "place" to be if you are a Bungie Fan, and people who have to fly out there already have their tickets booked based on that. So canceling their initial plans, will be a huge bummer to everyone who has already bought their ticket.

 

[The Librarian]

They have said explicitly that this was *the* year for Bungie fans to come to PAX, on multiple occasions. It's clear their initial plans have been scaled back, from that to "Halo 3 multiplayer content".

Saying it is "*the* year" is the same as forcing people to go? The new Halo 3 multiplayer content should be reason enough to say it is" the year" to go, not for some announcement that has never been hinted at.

I'm still there, of course. Should be a hoot. But they have scaled expectations down dramatically.

Yes, it should be fun regardless of what happens.

Edit:

We were told, like Ghaleon said, PAX will be the "place" to be if you are a Bungie Fan, and people who have to fly out there already have their tickets booked based on that. So canceling their initial plans, will be a huge bummer to everyone who has already bought their ticket.

Look, I don't know what Bungie is planning, but complaining about something that has never been hinted at is just silly.

 

[backflip10019]

Who here on GAF is supposed to be good?

Cocky much?

 

[EazyB]

Ummmmm, Bungie isn't forcing anyone to go or spend money, nor have they ever hinted that they would announce their next game at PAX. I don't understand what you are complaining about.

I can't access gaming websites on my work network but I'm almost sure that there was heavy hinting that Bungie's presence at PAX was going to be significant. Coupled with the awesomeness that was to be the Fanfest and I think I and especially others who were looking forward to this and have already invested a lot into the trip have good reason to be disappointed. Of course nothing is owed to us but you'd feel the same way if you didn't happen to be a 15 years old and had the freedom to go beyond the backseat of your dad's Ford Focus.

Luckily the trip will be of little expense to me and I look forward to meeting some of the other GAFers so the trip will still be worthwhile.

 

[Deleted member 21120]

Look, I don't know what Bungie is planning, but complaining about something that has never been hinted at is just silly.

Invest $600+ and then come back and talk to us.

I will still be there, of course, but this is disappointing.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

:lol
because button combos were so awesome

...actually they were. immense skill was needed to use properly.

and yes Dax, that's exactly what I want all 3 shots to hit and no real leading system. its not overpowered if everyone has a BR. That way I can go back to using precision accuracy to account for my kills instead of bullshit randomness like the game deciding if you get a kill or not which I can actually see happening way too often. No offense but when I actually have a clean 4-shot I actually WANT it to be a kill instead of needing a 5th shot.

 

[TimeLike]

I can't access gaming websites on my work network but I'm almost sure that there was heavy hinting that Bungie's presence at PAX was going to be significant. Coupled with the awesomeness that was to be the Fanfest and I think I and especially others who were looking forward to this and have already invested a lot into the trip have good reason to be disappointed. Of course nothing is owed to us but you'd feel the same way if you didn't happen to be a 15 years old and had the freedom to go beyond the backseat of your dad's Ford Focus.

Luckily the trip will be of little expense to me and I look forward to meeting some of the other GAFers so the trip will still be worthwhile.

:lol

 

[The Librarian]

I can't access gaming websites on my work network but I'm almost sure that there was heavy hinting that Bungie's presence at PAX was going to be significant. Coupled with the awesomeness that was to be the Fanfest and I think I and especially others who were looking forward to this and have already invested a lot into the trip have good reason to be disappointed.

I wouldn't book a flight and waste hundreds of dollars based on the assumption that a new game would be announced. I would book a flight based on what was promised to me, and what I already know. I would fly out to PAX to play knew multiplayer content, meet other GAFers, and for the chance to play against Luke and Shiska.

Of course nothing is owed to us but you'd feel the same way if you didn't happen to be a 15 years old and had the freedom to go beyond the backseat of your dad's Ford Focus.

I'm not 15 and I still don't think I would feel the same way; if you are having doubts about this trip you should cancel your flight.

meeting some of the other GAFers so the trip will still be worthwhile.

That is the reason why you should be booking your flight.

Edit:

Invest $600+ and then come back and talk to us.

I will still be there, of course, but this is disappointing.

Of course you are disappointed: you were hoping for an announcement that was never hinted at, and now that it isn't likely going to happen, your disappointed.

 

[The Librarian]

...actually they were. immense skill was needed to use properly.

:lol Oh god, so you are one of those players?

and yes Dax, that's exactly what I want all 3 shots to hit and no real leading system. its not overpowered if everyone has a BR. That way I can go back to using precision accuracy to account for my kills instead of bullshit randomness like the game deciding if you get a kill or not which I can actually see happening way too often. No offense but when I actually have a clean 4-shot I actually WANT it to be a kill instead of needing a 5th shot.

I don't want my games filled with nothing but BRs. I like variety, and the BR in Halo 2 did not allow for much variety when it game to using different weapons.

 

[backflip10019]

This thread is HEATING UP. I can't take the sexual tension between Eazy and Dax any longer.

BXR BXR BXR

 

[EazyB]

I'm not 15 and I still don't think I would feel the same way; if you are having doubts about this trip you should cancel your flight.

I have the luxury of being able to eazily drive up there and free place to stay.

Of course you are disappointed: you were hoping for an announcement that was never hinted at, and now that it isn't likely going to happen, your disappointed.

The Fanfest was a confirmed event and there was a very good chance Bungie's project was going to be announced beforehand so it's natural to assume they'd be showing it at PAX. How much of a confirmation should one need? There was a fucking countdown to the reveal yet we all know how that turned out. If you can't see how saying this year was "the year" for Bungie fans to go to PAX then you're simply hopeless.

 

[GM Bullfrog]

I can't access gaming websites on my work network but I'm almost sure that there was heavy hinting that Bungie's presence at PAX was going to be significant. Coupled with the awesomeness that was to be the Fanfest and I think I and especially others who were looking forward to this and have already invested a lot into the trip have good reason to be disappointed. Of course nothing is owed to us but you'd feel the same way if you didn't happen to be a 15 years old and had the freedom to go beyond the backseat of your dad's Ford Focus.

What he said.

 

[Deleted member 21120]

Of course you are disappointed: you were hoping for an announcement that was never hinted at, and now that it isn't likely going to happen, your disappointed.

Has nothing to do with an announcement, bro. It was all about meeting some of the guys that make this game that I play all the time.

But it will still be fun to meet up with other GAFfers and see some Bungie guys at their booth. The thought never crossed my mind to back out.

 

[Domino Theory]

The cancellation of the Bungie FanFest is definitely a bummer, but that's really the only thing that's going to be missing from PAX. It seems their initial plans (- the Fanfest) are still intact.

Although I'm pretty stoked that they've called it "Multiplayer content" instead of "Multiplayer maps". It leaves the door open for more than just maps.

But this trip should mean more to you guys than just seeing Bungie. We're all going to finally see each other, damn it! Doesn't that mean anything? Whatever my trip costs, I'm willing to pay so I can see all of my GAF friends and finally put faces to names.

$600+ dollars to finally see Eazy, Nutter, Blood, and Metroid to name a few is well worth the trip in itself

Spoiler

to me.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Saying it is "*the* year" is the same as forcing people to go?

Where the heck did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

Fact that Bungie will be there, new Halo content in tow, is plenty reason for me to trek up. Not to mention meeting guys from AJ and GAF. But then, it's only a two hour drive for me.

BTW, the b.net article was updated:

For the record, we have no plans to make any big announcements or huge reveals at PAX this year. While we will have some Halo 3 multiplayer stuff for you to check out, this is not going to be the "big announcement" many of our fans are clamoring for. Rest assured that when the time is right, we will be making announcements and talking about the stuff we're currently working on. At the moment we do have three distinct projects underway within Bungie - some familiar, some not. Some on a closer horizon, some quite far off.

Edit: and just so we don't lose full sight of this, I went to PAX last year with no Bungie presence (announced, anyways). The show is fuck-awesome as it is and everyone going will have a blast.

 

[backflip10019]

Although I'm pretty stoked that they've called it "Multiplayer content" instead of "Multiplayer maps". It leaves the door open for more than just maps.

Content, eh? New weapons? That would certainly make "great changes to the Halo 3 online experience."

 

[godhandiscen]

i don't know about you guys, but Bungie said "content" right? This might not be only maps at all. Something even beyond Forge maybe. If I could I would go to PAX. However, not "to play with Shiska and Luke"... whats so awesome about that?

BTW, the b.net article was updated:

aww, it seems its only maps. Any idea of what is this thing that will change the way we play Halo 3? Not that the experience inst superb already.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

:lol Oh god, so you are one of those players?

Yes one of those players that likes to be able to take control of their game through the use of skill in competitive gaming playlists... Imagine that... skill in competitive gaming.

:lol

 

[vhfive]

...actually they were. immense skill was needed to use properly.

and yes Dax, that's exactly what I want all 3 shots to hit and no real leading system. its not overpowered if everyone has a BR. That way I can go back to using precision accuracy to account for my kills instead of bullshit randomness like the game deciding if you get a kill or not which I can actually see happening way too often. No offense but when I actually have a clean 4-shot I actually WANT it to be a kill instead of needing a 5th shot.

i see what your saying
but i think that button combos just made the gap between the elite and the decent even greater
me being the decent and not wanting to put in the time it took to learn the combos

 

[EazyB]

The cancellation of the Bungie FanFest is definitely a bummer, but that's really the only thing that's going to be missing from PAX. It seems their initial plans (- the Fanfest) are still intact.

Although I'm pretty stoked that they've called it "Multiplayer content" instead of "Multiplayer maps". It leaves the door open for more than just maps.

But this trip should mean more to you guys than just seeing Bungie. We're all going to finally see each other, damn it! Doesn't that mean anything? Whatever my trip costs, I'm willing to pay so I can see all of my GAF friends and finally put faces to names.

More PAX News on Bungie.net - http://www.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=news&cid=14894

Bad News: Fanfest has been delayed (this probably means we won't see the new project before or at PAX because it seems to have been delayed because of the unexpected delayed announcement of their next project. )

It's good to know some of you that are making expensive trips still feel it's worthwhile. I've felt more disappointed for you guys than the fact that Bungie's presence has been effectively neutered.

 

[Deleted member 21120]

It's good to know some of you that are making expensive trips still feel it's worthwhile. I've felt more disappointed for you guys than the fact that Bungie's presence has been effectively neutered.

Yeah, don't worry, dude, it'll still be a blast. How could it not be with like every Halo GAFfer coming?

 

[Havok]

Team Snipers Double EXP is up. Castrate if old, etc.

 

[GhaleonEB]

I just re-read this bit of the updated article:

At the moment we do have three distinct projects underway within Bungie - some familiar, some not. Some on a closer horizon, some quite far off.

Sounds like it might be a little acknowledgment of Mattrick's calling out their new Halo project.

 

[Domino Theory]

Yeah, don't worry, dude, it'll still be a blast. How could it not be with like every Halo GAFfer coming?

<3

Team Snipers Double EXP is up. Castrate if old, etc.

What? Snipers already has its own playlist with an average of 40,000+ people playing in it everyday.

 

[Hero]

Cocky much?

I actually didn't mean for it to come out like that. Really would just like to play with skilled players.

 

[Havok]

What? Snipers already has its own playlist with an average of 40,000+ people playing in it everyday.

I see what you did there.

 

[backflip10019]

What? Snipers already has its own playlist with an average of 40,000+ people playing in it everyday.

:lol

But in all seriousness, I love Team Snipers.

 

[Nutter]

Yeah, don't worry, dude, it'll still be a blast. How could it not be with like every Halo GAFfer coming?

And the fact that we will get to play many many other games not yet released (aka Rockband 2 [for eazy] )

 

[EazyB]

I just re-read this bit of the updated article:

Sounds like it might be a little acknowledgment of Mattrick's calling out their new Halo project.

I think it's pretty interesting that they threw that in there. What's the significance of putting that in coupled with the disappointing PAX news?

And the fact that we will get to play many many other games not yet released (aka Rockband 2 [for eazy] )

I almost forgot that there were going to be other games at PAX

I'm ok now
My Ram-like rage is over.

Spoiler

I call drums

 

[Domino Theory]

I think it's pretty interesting that they threw that in there. What's the significance of putting that in coupled with the disappointing PAX news?


I almost forgot that there were going to be other games at PAX

I'm ok now
My Ram-like rage is over.

Spoiler

I call drums

I think Microsoft could announce the SI project at Leipzig (like a week before PAX). It's really the only event that's close to E3 in terms of announcement (and it has more attendees than E3 now, I think).

Unless of course, Microsoft has X08 this year.

 

[TDG]

What? Snipers already has its own playlist with an average of 40,000+ people playing in it everyday.

:lol

 

[Blueblur1]

And the fact that we will get to play many many other games not yet released (aka Rockband 2 [for eazy] )

Yep, its still gonna be completely awesome.

 

[The Librarian]

Where the heck did I say that? Don't put words in my mouth.

You misunderstood, since I didn't feel like finding where Bungie said it was "the" year to be at PAX, I quoted them by quoting you. I don't mean to put words in your mouth.

Spoiler

If that makes any sense.

Fact that Bungie will be there, new Halo content in tow, is plenty reason for me to trek up. Not to mention meeting guys from AJ and GAF. But then, it's only a two hour drive for me.

Edit: and just so we don't lose full sight of this, I went to PAX last year with no Bungie presence (announced, anyways). The show is fuck-awesome as it is and everyone going will have a blast.

I wish I could go.

Has nothing to do with an announcement, bro. It was all about meeting some of the guys that make this game that I play all the time.

But it will still be fun to meet up with other GAFfers and see some Bungie guys at their booth. The thought never crossed my mind to back out.

I'm not saying PAX isn't going to be awesome, I am not saying being able to play new H3 content isn't going to be awesome, I am not saying being able to meet up with some GAFers in real life isn't going to be awesome and I am certainly not saying that the removal of the Bungie fanfest isn't disappointing. What I am saying is that you shouldn't book a flight and waste hundreds of dollars for something that wasn't even hinted at, and what I have said is that I wish I could go.

The Fanfest was a confirmed event

The fanfest was confirmed, yes, the announcement? No.

and there was a very good chance Bungie's project was going to be announced beforehand

What makes you think there was going to be a "very good chance" of an announcement of Bungie's next project at PAX besides speculation coming from members on GAF?

How much of a confirmation should one need?

Oh, I don't know, they could hint at it for one; two they could come out and say "We're going to announcement our next game at PAX," etc.

Yes one of those players that likes to be able to take control of their game through the use of skill in competitive gaming playlists... Imagine that... skill in competitive gaming.

:lol

Button combos ruined Halo 2, and they would do the same for Halo 3.