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The OFFICIAL Tech Spec-ulation thread! Will the Revolution be weakest?

KingJ2002

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"Revolution is not going to be as powerful as PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360" - Matt C. (IGN)

I thought the system will be on par with their competitiors when it comes to the tech specs... The way matt talks about the rev... it's like the DS all over again. Which is kind of disappointing.


comments?
 
If Nintendo reveals very nice-looking Revolution games, like a new Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Super Smash Bros., etc. ... would it matter if the system was, in fact, the 'weakest' of the three?
 
Yeah, there are some conflicting reports.

2-3 times more powerful than GC vs. Graphics that will make you say "wow"

Not looking to have the best processors, etc (or whatever shiggy said) vs. Gonna have some sweet graphics (Reggie)

Matt C's reports vs. Johnny Nighttrain's

I'm getting the impression that it'll be weaker against the other two specswise, but the graphics should be about the same, and you probably won't be able to tell the difference because the system will be replaced in 5 years when it'll be maxed out or have games that will be close to it.
 
Matt clearly has no idea what he's saying. Like the guy above said, he was adamant that there would be no DVD or B/C support. He just can't admit he knows nothing this time around. Unlike with Dolphin, which PlanetN2000 and DolphinCove had leaked major details of (and IGN subsequently hired Fran), Revolution seems to be tightly under wraps.
 
My guess is Revolution may not be a processor powerhouse, but it will have some exclusive hardware-based effects that can make incredibly unique looking games. The other consoles may be able to perform these effects in software, but the hit in performance will balance things out, making Revolution equal to Xbox360/PS3 in these types of games. Imagine the handdrawn look i.e. Okami or more impressive cell shading features.


People aren't always looking for more realistic graphics, which can come off as plastic and cold. They are in fact just as easily impressed by NEW graphics.
 
Even if Revolution is the weakest techinically the games will still look good. If it's 2-3 times the power of Gamecube the games will look good.
 
I just hope Nintendo doesn't abandon cel shading.

I really want to see another game stylistically comparable to Wind Waker, produced by Nintendo.
 
probably the only console to have ppu? won't that free up a lot of cpu and gpu processing power? didn't Johnny said that what he saw the game was pretty immersive or something along the line like that? cuz that would mean the game would be a fully interactive world just like the real world.
 
midnightguy said:
dont worry. they already did. PS3 is 28 times weaker than expected :lol
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As an example of the advances being made, Pearson noted that Sony's new PlayStation 3 computer games console is 35 times as powerful as the model it replaced, and in terms of processing is "one percent as powerful as a human brain".
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anotheriori said:
"PS3... about as smart as a mentally handicapped person"
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The fact that Nintendo dances around the issue whenever it's brought up says to me that it will be the weakest or at best won't have any advantages over the X360.
 
GameBoy was weaker than Game Gear.
PS1 was "weaker" than N64.
N64 was weaker than Dreamcast.
DS is weaker than PSP.
Playstation 2 is weaker than both GameCube and Xbox.

...... so I'm not too worried.
 
Mattt AKA "Mr Nintendo is teh doomed and only i know how to save them" is actually not the best person to get news from.
 
Looking at its size, unless they switch to a .65 process (very unlikely), yes most likely it will be the weakest.
 
Who cares, people will buy it for Nintendo 1st party games, not for high power or 3rd party games. As long as Nintendo makes profits it shouldnt matter if Revolution will be a third place console, both power and sales wise.
 
also can anyone post a list of "confirmed" rumors of any tech that Revolution will use? multi-core? if so, 2-4 cores? PPU card? HDMI-DVI? DVD or HD-DVD? anythin else im missing? and also is it a fact that there is no stereoscoping rihgt?
 
kIdMuScLe said:
also can anyone post a list of "confirmed" rumors of any tech that Revolution will use? multi-core? if so, 2-4 cores? PPU card? HDMI-DVI? DVD or HD-DVD? anythin else im missing? and also is it a fact that there is no stereoscoping rihgt?
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It's pretty much confirmed that Revolution uses single-core CPU and DVD, I think. The big deal is going to be the controller. I wonder when we'll get to see it.
 
John Harker said:
GameBoy was weaker than Game Gear.
PS1 was "weaker" than N64.
N64 was weaker than Dreamcast.
DS is weaker than PSP.
Playstation 2 is weaker than both GameCube and Xbox.

...... so I'm not too worried.
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exactly. technology really isn't as important as people think in terms of selling a system to the masses. "average joe" just wants what's cool and hip, they don't know nor care about system specs like video game forum-rats like us do. that's not to say i think Rev will take pole position next-gen... playstation has put itself in the "i must have it because everyone else has it" position twice (thrice if you count PSP) and will probably do it again come PS3, and it wont be because it's the most powerful (or so they say) of the three.
 
I thought the system will be on par with their competitiors when it comes to the tech specs...
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Tech specs mean nothing unless they are put into context, the GC, going by the specs is the weakest of the 3, being 1/2 and 1/4 of the power of the PS2 and Xbox respectively. That said it will most likely be the weakest of the 3 but the graphics will not be that far off like the Xbox->360 graphics.
 
this is the main thing we really know about Revolution

Satoru Iwata:


"With IBM, we are creating Revolution's core processor, which we have
codenamed "Broadway"-because Broadway is the capital of live
entertainment. With ATI, we are developing the graphics chipset,
code-named "Hollywood"-because Hollywood is the capital of movie
entertainment. With Revolution, we are determined to create the new
capital of interactive entertainment. Now, a couple of specifics.
First, contrary to much speculation, I can announce today that
Revolution will be backwards compatible. The best of the Nintendo
GameCube library will still be enjoyed by players years from now.
Second, as I said earlier, we intend to incorporate wireless technology
in all we do. Therefore, Nintendo Revolution will be Wi-Fi
enabled-built into every system. And third, even though the game
experience enjoyed by players will be far different on Revolution,
developing for it will be familiar. It will not require a steep new
learning curve. In this way, just like Nintendo DS, it's a place where
the best ideas- not the biggest budgets-will win."
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Monk said:
Tech specs mean nothing unless they are put into context, the GC, going by the specs is the weakest of the 3, being 1/2 and 1/4 of the power of the PS2 and Xbox respectively. That said it will most likely be the weakest of the 3 but the graphics will not be that far off like the Xbox->360 graphics.
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KingJ2002 said:
"Revolution is not going to be as powerful as PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360" - Matt C. (IGN)

I thought the system will be on par with their competitiors when it comes to the tech specs... The way matt talks about the rev... it's like the DS all over again. Which is kind of disappointing.


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Does it really matter? I mean does it REALLY matter. It matters not what Nintendo do people will think they have the weakest hardware regardless, I'm guessing Nintendo (going by their comments) are just going with the flow now.
 
Redbeard said:
The fact that Nintendo dances around the issue whenever it's brought up says to me that it will be the weakest or at best won't have any advantages over the X360.
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The X360 is quite capable. I don't get this automatically placing the X360 behind the PS3. I think they'll be quite equal, with the GPU of the 360 being the superior, yet the CELL dominating the 360's CPU in a lot of arenas.

The Revolution will be very capable, as well, but not as capable as it's competitors. That's not Nintendo's aim. Their aim is not to be the living room hub either. I think the Rev will focus on having excellent picture quality first, and marginal upgrades, as well as a superiority in a few areas like RAM and bandwidth over MS and Sony (768MB or 1GB versus 512MB/256MB+256MB). It's power might come to line with the most advanced CPU and GPU in the computer arena right now, and utilize a PPU to make up the difference.
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
The X360 is quite capable. I don't get this automatically placing the X360 behind the PS3. I think they'll be quite equal, with the GPU of the 360 being the superior, yet the CELL dominating the 360's CPU in a lot of arenas.

The Revolution will be very capable, as well, but not as capable as it's competitors. That's not Nintendo's aim. Their aim is not to be the living room hub either. I think the Rev will focus on having excellent picture quality first, and marginal upgrades, as well as a superiority in a few areas like RAM and bandwidth over MS and Sony (768MB or 1GB versus 512MB/256MB+256MB). It's power might come to line with the most advanced CPU and GPU in the computer arena right now, and utilize a PPU to make up the difference.
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If the real Abominable Snowman is reading this, have you seen Wrath of Khan? You'll need to do what Kirk did to gain control of your account again.
 
But as your question suggests, just because we're the most profitable doesn't mean we're relaxing in the marketplace. Nintendo is founded on a competitive spirit that prides itself on creating the best gaming experiences anywhere in the world. Gamers know this, and they expect nothing less from Nintendo than for us to keep fighting to be number one. You can expect this attitude to grow stronger into the future as we prepare to unveil our most ambitious product ever with Revolution.
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this quote completely boggles my mind. they said they will compete but then they say it will be not as strong tech wise. what i really think nintendo should do is let NOA and NOE market and hype the revolution Sony-style and NOJ keep their conservative makerting to their own market. Not all regions are the same NINTENDO!!!! that's what i think is wrong with nintendo today, not marketing their machines correctly in each region.
 
MightyHedgehog said:
If Nintendo reveals very nice-looking Revolution games, like a new Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Super Smash Bros., etc. ... would it matter if the system was, in fact, the 'weakest' of the three?
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Yep.

Another thing to think about, Revolution may have weaker specs, but you never know what developers will get out of the hardware (see PS2).
 
The Abominable Snowman said:
The Revolution will be very capable, as well, but not as capable as it's competitors. That's not Nintendo's aim. Their aim is not to be the living room hub either. I think the Rev will focus on having excellent picture quality first, and marginal upgrades, as well as a superiority in a few areas like RAM and bandwidth over MS and Sony (768MB or 1GB versus 512MB/256MB+256MB). It's power might come to line with the most advanced CPU and GPU in the computer arena right now, and utilize a PPU to make up the difference.
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but what you are describing here, is a Revolution that is almost on par with PS3 in certain areas (because of a PPU) while being superior in other area (like RAM). I don't think this will happen. I think Revolution will be weaker than PS3 and Xbox360 in almost every area, except RAM latency.

that is, *IF* this 2 to 3 times more powerful than Gamecube is to be believed.


with that said,
I hope Revolution will have 10 to 100 times more power than Gamecube, just like the Gamecube was over the Nintendo 64

indeed, Gamecube was ten to one hundred times more powerful than Nintendo 64 depending on what area of specification you compared.
 
Rhindle said:
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You believe that the graphics of Xbox vs 360 games as shown are night and day? The jump is noticeable but not that huge like the psone vs ps2. I am just simply saying since the GC will most likely be more powerful than the Xbox atleast, the difference won't be as big.
 
midnightguy said:
with that said, I hope Revolution will have 10 to 100 times more power than Gamecube, just like the Gamecube was over the Nintendo 64
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Then you are out of luck. Even the Xbox 360 is at best 16x more powerful.
 
midnightguy said:
but what you are describing here, is a Revolution that is almost on par with PS3 in certain areas (because of a PPU) while being superior in other area (like RAM). I don't think this will happen. I think Revolution will be weaker than PS3 and Xbox360 in almost every area, except RAM latency.

that is, *IF* this 2 to 3 times more powerful than Gamecube is to be believed.


with that said,
I hope Revolution will have 10 to 100 times more power than Gamecube, just like the Gamecube was over the Nintendo 64

indeed, Gamecube was ten to one hundred times more powerful than Nintendo 64 depending on what area of specification you compared.
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The system which I described may be able to match a few PS3 games when it comes to physics and perhaps texturing, but not overall. Even with 768/1G of RAM, a faster PPC (dual core?), and whatnot, I expect at least the PS3 to have an edge when it comes to the CPU, and the PS3, and by proxy the X360, to have vastly superior GPUs. The GPU in the Rev, I predict, will be very efficient, though.
 
kIdMuScLe said:
this quote completely boggles my mind. they said they will compete but then they say it will be not as strong tech wise. what i really think nintendo should do is let NOA and NOE market and hype the revolution Sony-style and NOJ keep their conservative makerting to their own market. Not all regions are the same NINTENDO!!!! that's what i think is wrong with nintendo today, not marketing their machines correctly in each region.
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Who said that, I demand to know?
 
jesus people, just accept the fucking fact that Nintendo doesn't aim to be as powerful as Xbox 360 or PS3 with Revolution. (hint: look at the size of that console too)
 
Wow. Some of you sure know alot about the revolutions graphics no one else has heard or seen anything remotely concrete about. If you can take the quotes so far of them saying it will make you say wow when you see it, that it will be more appealing to developers with smaller budgets but big ideas, and Miyamoto saying they are not going to compete in the tech numbers game with PS3 and Xbox 360 and translate that too Revolution = Xbox 360 then I don't know if thats just really good deductive skills or some kind of psychosis.

If you want Xbox 360 or PS3 graphics get one of them, if you want to play Nintendo games, get the revolution, or get 2 or all 3. This shit is getting old fast.
 
When will you guys stop all this.

1) Haven’t they said the chipset isn’t yet finalised?
2) Haven’t they said they will have the tech but won’t just rely on that principle alone XB360 and PS3 biggest points are “We are XXXtimes more powerful than our last console” They don’t want that tagline. They want their own tag line.
3) Nintendo are efficient at console making and won’t wanna get left behind
 
My prediction is that every single post in this thread will be speculation. Every single one! Except whatever lockii posts, because lockii is cool.
 
lockii said:
If size is the basis of how we're determining a systems' power, then just bail the fuck out right now.
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If you think size doesn't have anything to do with power, you can just kill yourself too.
 
John Harker said:
GameBoy was weaker than Game Gear.
PS1 was "weaker" than N64.
N64 was weaker than Dreamcast.
DS is weaker than PSP.
Playstation 2 is weaker than both GameCube and Xbox.

...... so I'm not too worried.
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Damn, is how well it sells all you guys care about?
 
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