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[xXBaconXx]

While pretty much everybody will agree the actual gameplay is nothing new, for me at least ( and I imagine for most hyped for this) it's the setting and story ideas.

I personally believe that if you're making a game purely for the story and setting, you're making it for the wrong reason, which is that you can't afford to make a movie. Especially if you're not planning on making player interaction a large part of the story, which this doesn't seem to do.

I don't think games are a good medium for storytelling. In fact, I firmly believe that they're one of the worst, since you constantly need to interrupt the story for gameplay. I feel as if the only reason The Order is a game, is that RAD is already a video game developer. My guess is that if HBO came to RAD and told everyone not working on gameplay "Here's 200 million Dollarydoos, go make a TV series", they would accept that offer. I think that's a terrible mindset for making a game.

 

[VanWinkle]

If that was the case:
Whats the problem? Is that not allowed? "Hype or git, bitch"?

I think it's a bit ridiculous to go into a thread for a game you have no interest in to say that you're not interested in it. I'm not going to go into a FIFA thread and tell them I'm not interested in soccer games. I'm not going to go into a X-COM thread and tell them I'm not interested in strategy games.

If you're interested in the game/genre, then find the content therein disappointing, then that's fine. I'm not saying you should only be positive; I'm saying you should have a reason for wanting to come into the thread.

 

[OsirisBlack]

Still looking forward to picking this up day 1, Melee combat looks very much like the last of us which in my opinion is a good thing. Also they have shown one other unique weapon in the Arc rifle but have kept the others outside of the grenade very close to their chest. it has also been strongly hinted at that lycans arent the only half breed type in the game.

The Order,Blood borne and quantum break are at the top of my list for must own games.

 

[pastrami]

Cautiously optimistic. I adore the setting, and the story seems interesting enough at this point. Nice glimpse of some of the environments we'll be seeing. Gunplay looks serviceable. Graphics are gorgeous.

I was super excited at the initial reveal, disappointed with the gameplay reveal, but this has reignited my interest in the game. Looking forward to seeing more.

Also, I think it's ridiculous to pan the game because you think it doesn't do anything innovative or unique. It's like those people who argue that all Mario games are the same. It's dumb reductionist arguments.

 

[Summer Haze]

Between this game and Driveclub, my mind is being blown. The best visuals I've ever seen.

 

[nib95]

All of these are awfully shallow and/or nothing new.

If that's how you feel, the same could be said for 99% of games out there. Including those from Nintendo, Microsoft, and other platforms.

 

[Seanspeed]

I don't really understand why this trailer is changing opinions to be honest.

Well for me, I thought that the gun sounds were incredibly impressive and I don't remember hearing them like that before.

I'm a big sound person and I think this goes a long way in making the gunplay satisfying, which reduces some of my fear that the minute-to-minute gameplay wont be anything particularly special.

 

[JP]

Why is it that every time there's a games event like Gamescom I go into threads and spend 5 minutes staring at a screen capture on the first page waiting for it to animate and swearing at my router?

 

[BloodMoney]

the graphics whore in me, certainly enjoyed the footage. +1
bullet time +1
weapon recoil +1
atmosphere +1
horror/werewolf/half-breeds +1

 

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[Killroyskbg]

Thanks for all the feedback on our new trailer and info from Gamescom. Compiling it all up for the team here at RAD.

If you're looking for more info on Tesla and his role in The Order: 1886, we just posted this up on the PS Blog: http://blog.us.playstation.com/2014/08/12/the-order-1886-at-gamescom-introducing-nikola-tesla/, along with some additional concept art / screenshots.

Likes this new trailer and still cant understand how RAD get the game to look as good as it does. Tell RAD to keep up the good work and make the game they want.

 

[Nicodemus]

Game looks great. I honestly don't understand all the negativity it gets, particularly from people criticizing the gameplay, considering no one here has played it.

It's a TPS with horror elements. So was The Last of Us, and that one turned out pretty well.

 

[Nibel]

So again, what is it you guys want exactly?

Less hyperbole and a more realistic approach to the feature-set of this game perhaps? I see The Order as a cinematic shooter experience and might get it at launch, but stop trying to describe the game as something that it isn't, namely being highly innovative in its gameplay design.

Just take it for what it is and that's it.

 

[Citizen_Insane]

Holy. Shit.

 

[Horp]

I think it's a bit ridiculous to go into a thread for a game you have no interest in to say that you're not interested in it. I'm not going to go into a FIFA thread and tell them I'm not interested in soccer games. I'm not going to go into a X-COM thread and tell them I'm not interested in strategy games.

If you're interested in the game/genre, then find the content therein disappointing, then that's fine. I'm not saying you should only be positive; I'm saying you should have a reason for wanting to come into the thread.

I entered the thread about the trailer. I watched the trailer. I said my opinion about the trailer.
Where exactly have I done anything wrong?

 

[wouwie]

The order is such a strange game. I love 3rd person cover shooters and the setting/world/visuals look amazing. And yet, i can't get excited about this game at all. The gameplay seems to be focused on very small spaces with very little room for movement and tactics. It seems very scripted and narrow, relying on cover and nothing much else. The AI doesn't seem all that impressive either.

Somehow, it reminds me of a game i used to play on my Amiga, called Cabal, where you stood behind cover and shooted at enemies in the distance.

I still hope it's going to end up being a great game though.

 

[Loudninja]

Well for me, I thought that the gun sounds were incredibly impressive and I don't remember hearing them like that before.

I'm a big sound person and I think this goes a long way in making the gunplay satisfying, which reduces some of my fear that the minute-to-minute gameplay wont be anything particularly special.

The trailer showed new locations and weapons as well, so the trailer has plenty of new stuff to get people hype.

 

[nib95]

I don't think games are a good medium for storytelling.

Games like The Last of Us prove you wrong. Don't confuse half assed or poor attempts at narrative and character building in games, with the medium itself being bad for story telling. Quite the contrary, games are an exceptional medium for storytelling, as the interactivity and longer running times offer far more leeway in developing such relationships and stories, and the impact they have on the gamer.

 

[Summer Haze]

Anyone have a GIF of the part where he walks past the huge machine with electricity coming off it?

Unbelievable. My God.....

 

[BloodMoney]

It's a TPS with horror elements. So was The Last of Us, and that one turned out pretty well.

Listen, you need to stop making sense. This game blows chodes... OBVIOUSLY

 

[Viruz]

This looks great!

 

[OléGunner]

Now this..this looks fucking good. Looks like RAD will deliver an epic story drenched in atmosphere and gorgeous visuals

 

[startyourengine]

beast, its getting hot again with the order 1886.

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Well for me, I thought that the gun sounds were incredibly impressive and I don't remember hearing them like that before.

I'm a big sound person and I think this goes a long way in making the gunplay satisfying, which reduces some of my fear that the minute-to-minute gameplay wont be anything particularly special.

I was interested in the game anyway, but those gun sounds got me as well. I hope they feel as good as they sound.

 

[Dragonborn]

So is anyone actually getting their hands on this? I'd love to hear some hands on impressions.

 

[VanWinkle]

I entered the thread about the trailer. I watched the trailer. I said my opinion about the trailer.
Where exactly have I done anything wrong?

I didn't say you didn't anything "wrong". I said you did something ridiculous. "I entered the thread about a game from a genre I don't like, knowing that the game is from the genre I don't like. I watched and saw that it was indeed the genre I don't like. I told everyone that I don't like the genre and therefore won't buy the game."

Feel free to continue doing it. I still think it's kind of a ridiculous thing to do.

 

[semiconscious]

Game looks great. I honestly don't understand all the negativity it gets, particularly from people criticizing the gameplay, considering no one here has played it.

It's a TPS with horror elements. So was The Last of Us, and that one turned out pretty well.

but... no 'next-gen gameplay'...

yeah, i'm pretty sure i'm gonna enjoy this. also pretty sure i'm not really gonna care if someone else don't. amazing how many games i've had fun with that other people didn't ...

 

[SDCowboy]

Holy. Shit.

This game looks super hot.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

I personally believe that if you're making a game purely for the story and setting, you're making it for the wrong reason, which is that you can't afford to make a movie. Especially if you're not planning on making player interaction a large part of the story, which this doesn't seem to do.

I don't think games are a good medium for storytelling. In fact, I firmly believe that they're one of the worst, since you constantly need to interrupt the story for gameplay. I feel as if the only reason The Order is a game, is that RAD is already a video game developer. My guess is that if HBO came to RAD and told everyone not working on gameplay "Here's 200 million Dollarydoos, go make a TV series", they would accept that offer. I think that's a terrible mindset for making a game.

I disagree but it's your opinion.

Games can tell a good story, I don't believe the Order is a game which uses it's gameplay to tell a story (asides from the interactive cutscene bits or whatever), but that's why games use cutscenes, cause films are great are selling something to the viewer without the viewer fucking it up.

I don't think there are rules to this though, it's fun to play a manly mustache dude and kill werewolves, and then watch a cutscene of why he's killing said werewolf. Maybe the cinematic isn't really part of the game, but who cares, it's serving it's purpose.

 

[Pimpwerx]

What a throw away statement that does nothing to address any valid criticisms people have had. You're borderline insulting my intelligence here. I see things that seem just straight up wrong from what they have shown and said and I'm supposed to just go "oh, well it's just not for me" and say nothing.

Nothing wrong with the game design? So it's perfect?

I mentioned you where? If you think your criticism is legit, go nuts. I made a general statement about those three posts. I personally don't make it a habit of posting in threads about games I find disinteresting. It rarely ever improves the level of discussion in the thread.

I'm interested in this game. Looking forward to getting more information from showgoers who play it. PEACE.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Well for me, I thought that the gun sounds were incredibly impressive and I don't remember hearing them like that before.

I'm a big sound person and I think this goes a long way in making the gunplay satisfying, which reduces some of my fear that the minute-to-minute gameplay wont be fun.

I'm a HUGE sound + feedback person so I can understand that, especially since the majority of shooters leave me disappointed in those areas. It's nice to see/hear that The Order may get that part of it right, but I just don't get how short clips of the same gunplay we've seen already can make such a huge difference. Maybe it's just me though since I'm approching this game with caution considering every time we've seen more than 5 seconds of it, it's been laden with little cutscene interruptions. I, personally, can't be swayed with just a trailer at this point. I need more.

 

[Horp]

I didn't say you didn't anything "wrong". I said you did something ridiculous. "I entered the thread about a game from a genre I don't like, knowing that the game is from the genre I don't like. I watched and saw that it was indeed the genre I don't like. I told everyone that I don't like the genre and therefore won't buy the game."

Feel free to continue doing it. I still think it's kind of a ridiculous thing to do.

Think this is the second or third time that I say this but I hoped the trailer would show that this game is more than a TPS. It didn't, thus I was disappointed.

But ok, cool, I don't mind you thinking I'm ridiculous.

Back to my opinion:
Damn that's a disappointing trailer. I really don't think this kind of gameplay is enough for a big budget 2014 game.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

This looks like a solid pick up for me. I can't wait.

 

[-SD-]

Last one, I swear.

http://a.pomf.se/mktyru.webm

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

Think this is the second or third time that I say this but I hoped the trailer would show that this game is more than a TPS. It didn't, thus I was disappointed.

But ok, cool, I don't mind you thinking I'm ridiculous.

Back to my opinion:
Damn that's a disappointing trailer. I really don't think this kind of gameplay is enough for a big budget 2014 game.

Do you mind me asking what TPS game is doing it for you recently? (genuine question)

 

[Lettuce]

Hope this has a good storyline as other than the graphics it looks just like another cover based shooter, very sub standard for 2014!!

 

[Horp]

Do you mind me asking what TPS game is doing it for you recently? (genuine question)

Mass Effect 2 is the closest answer I can come up with right now.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

Mass Effect 2 is the closest answer I can come up with right now.

Why is that? I don't think it's unreasonable for me to say that ME2 didn't have particularly astounding 3rd person gameplay. I'm assuming for it's universe/story yes?

 

[Horp]

Why is that? I don't think it's unreasonable for me to say that ME2 didn't have particularly astounding 3rd person gameplay. I'm assuming for it's universe/story yes?

It was the sum of all the parts that made it good.

 

[SDCowboy]

Mass Effect 2 is the closest answer I can come up with right now.

Completely different games. ME is an RPG.

 

[Kosma]

Mass effect is such a crap tps shooter ffs I hope you are joking

Total jankfest

Only good thing was the setting

Also ME1 > ME2 > ME3

Series has devolved

 

[Horp]

Completely different games. ME is an RPG.

Yes, you are right. I hoped this trailer would show that The Order would be more than a TPS too. Maybe an RPG, maybe something else. It didn't. That's why I am disappointed.

 

[nib95]

Last one, I swear.

http://a.pomf.se/mktyru.webm

Could you do a slowed down version of the shotgun snippet at 1m 17s?

 

[RoboPlato]

Think this is the second or third time that I say this but I hoped the trailer would show that this game is more than a TPS. It didn't, thus I was disappointed.

But ok, cool, I don't mind you thinking I'm ridiculous.

Back to my opinion:
Damn that's a disappointing trailer. I really don't think this kind of gameplay is enough for a big budget 2014 game.

They've been saying it's a third person shooter since the day it was announced. If you don't like the genre I can't see this being a game that'll change your mind. I think it'll be a solid TPS with great visuals/setting and I think that's exactly what RaD is trying to make.

 

[ChawlieTheFair]

It was the sum of all the parts that made it good.

Well if that is your explanation, surely you can see that the Order could do something similar? It's got the visuals, a fairly unused/well realized setting (in games at least), and from the sounds and looks of it very competent gameplay. It might not be a 30 hour rpg, but a 12 hour solid story would surely be right up your alley if you like ME no?

 

[Horp]

They've been saying it's a third person shooter since the day it was announced. If you don't like the genre I can't see this being a game that'll change your mind.

It's strange then that so many people here has been continously surprised with how limited the scope of the gameplay of this game is.

 

[Lan Dong Mik]

Looks soooooooo fucking good. Can't wait for this one.

 

[SDCowboy]

Yes, you are right. I hoped this trailer would show that The Order would be more than a TPS too. Maybe an RPG, maybe something else. It didn't. That's why I am disappointed.

I'm not sure why you would be under the impression that this could or would be an RPG. It's an action/adventure shooter and we've known that for ages.

 

[Sàmban]

looks incredible, but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[shinobi602]

It's strange then that so many people here has been continously surprised with how limited the scope of the gameplay of this game is.

The amount of times I've seen countless many ignore comments from developers can be astounding, yes.