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[Romulus]

In the 90s there are 3 famous mass sightings alone.

Belgian UFO wave, Phoneix Lights, Varginha.


Since when cameras sends powerful signals? It simply "collects" light. It avoids our phones but not military radars and drills?

Belgian was in the 80s and were tracked on radar. Those are nothing like Zimbabwe encounter and hence the reason for this thread. No backlogs of raw footage of interviews, nothing like that at all. Those others could easily be bullshit, we don't know.

The Phoneix lights has tons of footage and even the governor came out and said he saw it later after downplaying it to the public. He literally made jokes about it to keep people calm, but knew it was real the whole time.



Basically the only difference now to the phoenix lights would be more footage.

You can be tracked by your phone can't you? And collecting data could easily be seen by them if humans can tell exactly where you are And how do you know most UFOs don't avoid radars? Maybe some are picked up on radar, some aren't. Either way, its not a visual, it's just a signature that could mean anything.

 

[MadAnon]

Mexico is a massive hot spot for sightings, ever since the 1991 solar eclipse

Some of the fleets spotted is mental, hundreds of ufo in the sky at once

They could be balloons sure



Now the other odd thing, is all the videos seem to be gone off YouTube, and are getting harder to find

Maybe be nothing, just odd

They also seen to of filmed massive organic looking servant like things, again could be balloons, but they're fucking weird looking,mand have be videoed releasing orbs as well, just before these "fleets" show up

Maussan thinks everything is alien craft. That fighter pilot video is offshore oil platforms. Metabunk already figured directions, locations and it matched with offshore platforms. Those many white dots look like migrating birds.

Others look like nothing that couldn't be explained by helium balloons or helium foam shapes.

 

[INC]

Maussan thinks everything is alien craft. That fighter pilot video is offshore oil platforms. Metabunk already figured directions, locations and it matched with offshore platforms. Those many white dots look like migrating birds.

Others look like nothing that couldn't be explained by helium balloons or helium foam shapes.

Sure he lost me too, when he joined gaia and went off the reserve lol

And sure they could be explained that way, still weird and how frequent they're filmed, but yes they could be balloons.

 

[Romulus]

One of my favorite military vids. Looks like a drone at first. But around the 2:05 min mark it goes into the water but doesn't slow down or create waves.

Very similar to the way pilots describe these objects as not being tied to the known laws of physics like they can accelerate at any speed through anything, water, air without slowing down. Sonar techs on the Nimitz encounter confirmed the objects were going 30,000mph and plunging into the water.

 

[MadAnon]

Belgian was in the 80s and were tracked on radar. Those are nothing like Zimbabwe encounter and hence the reason for this thread. No backlogs of raw footage of interviews, nothing like that at all. Those others could easily be bullshit, we don't know.

The Phoneix lights has tons of footage and even the governor came out and said he saw it later after downplaying it to the public. He literally made jokes about it to keep people calm, but knew it was real the whole time.



Basically the only difference now to the phoenix lights would be more footage.

You can be tracked by your phone can't you? And collecting data could easily be seen by them if humans can tell exactly where you are And how do you know most UFOs don't avoid radars? Maybe some are picked up on radar, some aren't. Either way, its not a visual, it's just a signature that could mean anything.

You seem to not be well versed. Phoneix Lights have no real footage. The only footage is of flares dropped by military later that night.

Technically the Belgian UFO wave was during the turn of decade It had plenty of eye witnesses including police officers. It was not just a radar track. Not sure how Zimbabwe is special, which only has witnesses.

 

[INC]

Fun fact, kurt russel observed the Phoneix Lights whilst flying his plane



Bullshit?

 

[DeeDogg_]

At this point it’s funny for people to not believe in UFOs after countless disclosure for reliable sources in government and law enforcement

 

[MadAnon]

One of my favorite military vids. Looks like a drone at first. But around the 2:05 min mark it goes into the water but doesn't slow down or create waves.

Very similar to the way pilots describe these objects as not being tied to the known laws of physics like they can accelerate at any speed through anything, water, air without slowing down. Sonar techs on the Nimitz encounter confirmed the objects were going 30,000mph and plunging into the water.

This is an interesting video but I don't see what indicates it moved underwater? Looks like it's still in the air with water in the background?

There's an entire thread on metabunk going back and forth over this. Someone even made a simulation based on available data which matched an object like a chinese lantern floating in the wind. Parallax basically makes it appear to be moving fast, afterall it was filmed from a moving helicopter. Same as that "Go fast" video which after some calculations turned out to be not moving fast at all.

They analyze pretty hardcore there. I'm personally don't have real conclusion about this one.

 

[INC]

Heres a few similar ones from the UK





Could be lanterns, and reading the above, the parallax effect kinda makes sense too, and can see how thats possible

 

[Romulus]

You seem to not be well versed. Phoneix Lights have no real footage. The only footage is of flares dropped by military later that night.

Technically the Belgian UFO wave was during the turn of decade It had plenty of eye witnesses including police officers. It was not just a radar track. Not sure how Zimbabwe is special, which only has witnesses.

Yeah, you don't know about the Zimbabwe event then. They were over 64 that saw it at the same exact time. A team of psychologists were sent down and interviewed them and they all gave the same story. There's raw footage of the process. That's extremely unique, not to mention the craft was sighted by the police and the kids still maintain their story. You probably haven't heard of how difficult it is to get children at the age of 6-12 to be proficient liars in a group of 64. It's nearly impossible, and for them to be the academy award-winning actors? Not going to happen while maintaining the same story for 30 years.

Your assessment of the Phoneix lights is also skewed. The footage hasn't been confirmed as flares and there were thousands of witnesses. The "story" was that they were flares, but then again the governor had his own story that we know now isn't true.

Belgian was 1989. You said 3 in the 1990s alone. That's incorrect. Cell phones with decent cameras were still uncommon up to 2007 or so, where are all the 1999-2007 mass sightings?

 

[Romulus]

This is an interesting video but I don't see what indicates it moved underwater? Looks like it's still in the air with water in the background?

There's an entire thread on metabunk going back and forth over this. Someone even made a simulation based on available data which matched an object like a chinese lantern floating in the wind. Parallax basically makes it appear to be moving fast, afterall it was filmed from a moving helicopter. Same as that "Go fast" video which after some calculations turned out to be not moving fast at all.

They analyze pretty hardcore there. I'm personally don't have real conclusion about this one.

Come on. At the point when the object is "blurred" is the exact point of the decrease in altitude that matches perfectly with the waterline.

 

[Aggelos]

Guys be bound to remember the following statement UFO != Alien lifeform(s). People have a tendency to misunderstand that - they think that "UFO=Aliens" .
No, the answer is NO.

UFO stands for Unidentified Flying Object. You see a Flying Object, that you cannot identify, you cannot explain, you cannot make head nor tail. Therefore you tag it as "unidentified". You just saw something and you don't know what it was, therefore you label it as unidentified.
You don't go like "I saw a flying object and don't know what it was, so it has to be the aliens!" That is not a logical deduction.

 

[MadAnon]

Come on. At the point when the object is "blurred" is the exact point of the decrease in altitude that matches perfectly with the waterline.

What reference point indicates it noticably decreases altitude besides "dude it gets blurry!" So according to your logic when it seemingly disappeares/reappears a few times against the background of those trees at 1:30 mark, it goes underground just like it goes ununderwater later? Fact is, there's nothing indicating it goes underwater.

 

[Nymphae]

Aliens are fake and gay. I read about this 2016 doc I had never heard of before called Hypernormalisation

It argues that governments, financiers, and technological utopians have, since the 1970s, given up on the complex "real world" and built a simpler "fake world" run by corporations and kept stable by politicians.

Will have to give it a watch. Wikipedia details a section on UFOs:

It argues that the phenomenon surrounding UFOs in the 1990s was born out of a counter-intelligence operation designed to make the public believe that secret airborne high-technology weapons systems tested by the US military during and after the Cold War were alien visitations. Top secret memos forged by the United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations were allegedly leaked to ufologists who spread the manufactured conspiracy theory of a government cover-up to the wider public. The method, called perception management, aimed to distract people from the complexities of the real world. American politics are described as having become increasingly detached from reality.....

 

[Nymphae]

Bullshit?

I know I trust that Hollywood celebrity, I enjoyed some of his play pretend gigs

 

[Romulus]

What reference point indicates it noticably decreases altitude besides "dude it gets blurry!" So according to your logic when it seemingly disappeares/reappears a few times against the background of those trees at 1:30 mark, it goes underground just like it goes ununderwater later? Fact is, there's nothing indicating it goes underwater.

You exactly why it's blurrier at 1:30, the entire background is too. Clouds are obscuring it. At 02:04 it shows an obvious decrease in altitude, which matches with the waterline.

 

[Insane Metal]

I watched it today.

Sorry I was such a dick before, this is actually a very good documentary. Highly recommended.

Also my opinion on the subject? There are some things we still don't know/understand. We need to study this stuff.

 

[buizel]

I watched it today.

Sorry I was such a dick before, this is actually a very good documentary. Highly recommended.

Also my opinion on the subject? There are some things we still don't know/understand. We need to study this stuff.

I have watched a few more documentaries; but I reccomended The Phenomenon because I think it's very well made that hopefully anyone would enjoy watching it even if they don't belive; but I think its compelling enough to make one believe.

If you're looking for even more stuff along the same lines; I'd reccomend this, someones put it on YouTube - it's narrated by Giancarlo Esposito, and has lots of great RAW footage & interviews.


There is also a post , maybe the 3rd/4th on this thread; about two documentaries "I Know What I Saw" and another one listed, both are good but very similar to each other.

Its quite easy to search UFO on YouTube, arrange by date and find some interviews and videos that keep going up and down lol.. old ones from like 80's/90's etc. Ones like this are pretty good and have interviews:


down the rabbit hoooole! you should check out the UFO's carved in ancient structures and paintings, going back hundreds and thousands of years old - with details matching up corroborating to what people have seen to this day, very spooky stuff

 

[Insane Metal]

I have watched a few more documentaries; but I reccomended The Phenomenon because I think it's very well made that hopefully anyone would enjoy watching it even if they don't belive; but I think its compelling enough to make one believe.

If you're looking for even more stuff along the same lines; I'd reccomend this, someones put it on YouTube - it's narrated by Giancarlo Esposito, and has lots of great RAW footage & interviews.


There is also a post , maybe the 3rd/4th on this thread; about two documentaries "I Know What I Saw" and another one listed, both are good but very similar to each other.

Its quite easy to search UFO on YouTube, arrange by date and find some interviews and videos that keep going up and down lol.. old ones from like 80's/90's etc. Ones like this are pretty good and have interviews:


down the rabbit hoooole! you should check out the UFO's carved in ancient structures and paintings, going back hundreds and thousands of years old - with details matching up corroborating to what people have seen to this day, very spooky stuff

That first one is worth watching for Esposito alone, lol.

I'm 35 now, when I was in my teens and early 20s I was reaaaaly into this stuff. As I got older I stopped caring tbh.

 

[JaseMath]

Wonderful documentary. One of the few with good production values while not coming off as a completely cringey.

 

[Romulus]

I watched it today.

Sorry I was such a dick before, this is actually a very good documentary. Highly recommended.

Also my opinion on the subject? There are some things we still don't know/understand. We need to study this stuff.

I didn't think you were a dick

But, I really tried to have a conversation with my siblings who are adamant skeptics(about everything really) which is totally fine.

Anyway, the best the 2 of them could come up with after watching it(and being surprised) was it was some sort of intelligence covert operation to pretend to be aliens and gauge reactions, but even they thought that was ridiculous. It's pretty interesting when you have to come up with theories like that to make sense of it. They literally had to create these saucers and suits, fly into a school just to fuck with kids and terrify them for life? lol

 

[TheWanderingOgre]

"This is the story of a one-eyed wolf
Called the honey of superdoom
She rode her five legged beast
In a mirrored bikini that came right out of the womb
They chased each with steam and knive
Screaming "Oil is in my veins"
And then she grabbed a big old pipe
And smoked up some fine old monkey brains
Get on it!
Now some say that one-eyed wolf
Owned a midget who was almost ten feet tall
He spray-painted "UFO's are real"
In the rubble of the Berlin wall
So finally on that fateful day they went looking for a Superman
Singing "I'm gonna get my twenty bucks and vacation in Japan"
Look out!
Well everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody's fucking in a UFO
Well everybody, everybody, everybody, everybody's fucking in a UFO
Get up!
Get up!
Get up!
Get up!
Get up!"

 

[MadAnon]

You exactly why it's blurrier at 1:30, the entire background is too. Clouds are obscuring it. At 02:04 it shows an obvious decrease in altitude, which matches with the waterline.

Those are not clouds. It's vegitation - trees, bushes. You are a donkey... But what can you expect from a guy who thinks a piece of floating bubbles/foam is a UFO with lights. Back to ignore list. This time forever. You are not worth it. Zero observation, analytic skills. The worst type of people to have discussions with.

Oh, let's not forget your famous "giant, shapeshifting, cloud imitating" best UFO footage ever. Which turned out to be some kind of falling, rotating ISS shielding piece. Your analytic skills are truly a gift.

 

[MadAnon]

I watched it today.

Sorry I was such a dick before, this is actually a very good documentary. Highly recommended.

Also my opinion on the subject? There are some things we still don't know/understand. We need to study this stuff.

Pretty much where I stand. I'm leaning towards believing there's something out there.

Fox basically makes the best UFO documentaries. Good for people who want easy to digest introduction to this field. He has 2 older docs. He trys to stick to facts and logic instead of falling down the rabbit hole of charlatans like Lazar or Greer with his alien summoning rituals for which he charges thousands of $.

 

[Cocksman]

i consider myself a bit of a connoisseur of all things UFO. this is a great documentary. I watched it last month. The school landing in Africa is hard to dismiss. I just don’t believe that those 60 something kids plus staff can keep up a lie for decades without at least one calling BS .
it was like a religious experience for them. Absolutely fascinating stuff.

 

[Romulus]

Those are not clouds. It's vegitation - trees, bushes. You are a donkey... But what can you expect from a guy who thinks a piece of floating bubbles/foam is a UFO with lights. Back to ignore list. This time forever. You are not worth it. Zero observation, analytic skills. The worst type of people to have discussions with.

lol, a donkey you've spend endless discussions with. Seems legit. Lemme guess, you're trying to "teach me" lmao. Nope, you want to be right, and every time I pin you with something, you bail out. You never even put me on ignore in the first place. We both know that.
You can't even spell vegetation. But somehow that's your reasoning for it blurring out when it descends right near the water. Suddenly that's the reason for it blurring? Vegetation over the water? lol. Look it could easily be clouds or vegetation before that point, doesn't really matter because you can clearly see something is obscuring it. We both see that. That's not the point at all, the point is you don't have the analytical mind to see the difference when it enters over the water because there's nothing in front of it. You intentionally focused on the vegetation versus clouds aspect to deflect away from the real point, and it didn't work for you.
Oh, and the foam thing, you made a terrible argument for. Awful. It could have easily been something else, but your argument was just plain bad.

 

[Romulus]

i consider myself a bit of a connoisseur of all things UFO. this is a great documentary. I watched it last month. The school landing in Africa is hard to dismiss. I just don’t believe that those 60 something kids plus staff can keep up a lie for decades without at least one calling BS .
it was like a religious experience for them. Absolutely fascinating stuff.

Then you have to take into account that the police and other witnesses in the surrounding area were also lying too. Just one huge lie that everyone stuck to, with children fooling seasoned psychologists.

 

[buizel]

Potentially Huge

COVID-19 bill started a 180-day countdown for UFO disclosures

President Trump’s signature Sunday on the $2.3 trillion COVID-19 relief and government funding bill started a 180-day countdown for the Pentagon and spy agencies to say what they know about U…

nypost.com

So this Covid bill Trump passed also gave the pentagon + secret services 180 days to reveal all UFo n alien info to him. I don't know what other presidents did this but JFK requested this before (though he gave them a deadline of a few weeks) a week prior to his assassination.

Has other presidents made enquiries and what happened ? I've seen Obama n Bill Clinton make enquires but idk how big. Anyway don't jump down my throat that I'm saying what you think I'm saying I'm just curious bro.

 

[buizel]

i consider myself a bit of a connoisseur of all things UFO. this is a great documentary. I watched it last month. The school landing in Africa is hard to dismiss. I just don’t believe that those 60 something kids plus staff can keep up a lie for decades without at least one calling BS .
it was like a religious experience for them. Absolutely fascinating stuff.

Do you have any good reccomendations of good videos (documentary/etc) ? If theres good ones on UFO sightings > 100 years ago that would be cool

 

[INC]

Potentially Huge

COVID-19 bill started a 180-day countdown for UFO disclosures

President Trump’s signature Sunday on the $2.3 trillion COVID-19 relief and government funding bill started a 180-day countdown for the Pentagon and spy agencies to say what they know about U…

nypost.com

So this Covid bill Trump passed also gave the pentagon + secret services 180 days to reveal all UFo n alien info to him. I don't know what other presidents did this but JFK requested this before (though he gave them a deadline of a few weeks) a week prior to his assassination.

Has other presidents made enquiries and what happened ? I've seen Obama n Bill Clinton make enquires but idk how big. Anyway don't jump down my throat that I'm saying what you think I'm saying I'm just curious bro.

He won't be president in 180 days, so kinda null and void

 

[Cocksman]

Do you have any good reccomendations of good videos (documentary/etc) ? If theres good ones on UFO sightings > 100 years ago that would be cool

off the top of my head ,I like these.

Hanger1:UFO Files (Netflix)

Bob Lazar: Area 51 and Flying Saucers (Netflix)
Then watch the Joe Rogan podcast with Bob Lazar after watching this doc

Unacknowledged (YouTube)

Out of the Blue ( James fox documentary )

 

[bender]

Thunderf00t did Busted videos on all the pentagon UFO videos.

 

[zeomax]

3. why is a LARGE theme park OBJECT being delivered in the dead of night? making damage more likely.

Because at night the streets are empty. Way easier to transport large objects on an empty street.

For some reason with advances in tech, phones with cameras being more widespread than ever, ability to share information being easier than ever there are no amazing cases whatsoever. Hearing all these crazy stories from 2nd half of 20th century you would think we are long overdue for some amazing mass sightings. Weird that with our increasing ability to document things somehow the amount of amazing sightings have fallen of a cliff.

I always asked this many times. Let say in the last 10 years there are millions of flights with millions of peoples on board and basically everyone had a phone with a camera. You would assume there must be a huge amount of videos from flying saucers taken by the flight passengers. But no, it looks like the aliens are only chasing military planes.

 

[buizel]

Check out this weird looking swamp gas

 

[INC]

Check out this weird looking swamp gas

Looks like a fake thirdphaseofmoon video tbh

As I said earlier in the thread, youtube is filled with these fake cgi ufo channels, look at the other shit on their channel



I mean seriously......

 

[buizel]

Because at night the streets are empty. Way easier to transport large objects on an empty street.


I always asked this many times. Let say in the last 10 years there are millions of flights with millions of peoples on board and basically everyone had a phone with a camera. You would assume there must be a huge amount of videos from flying saucers taken by the flight passengers. But no, it looks like the aliens are only chasing military planes.

There are a number shot from passenger planes, a quick YouTube search will reveal.

Looks like a fake thirdphaseofmoon video tbh

As I said earlier in the thread, youtube is filled with these fake cgi ufo channels, look at the other shit on their channel



I mean seriously......

Yeah I know these aren't all real I just like posting them bro. Nofunallowed???
.PNG...????

Check out this interrogation that really happened. How can you argue with this??

 

[Bobnob]

Holy shit, you're from Hastings, I probably know you dude

I doubt it, I'm actually living in eastbourne now and originally from Manchester

 

[INC]

I doubt it, I'm actually living in eastbourne now and originally from Manchester

Ah you live in gods waiting room i see

 

[rofif]

Check out this weird looking swamp gas

llooks like some kinda of jet. Maybe 3 jets or it's refracting so looks like 3 ?

 

[rofif]

Looks like a fake thirdphaseofmoon video tbh

As I said earlier in the thread, youtube is filled with these fake cgi ufo channels, look at the other shit on their channel



I mean seriously......

lol that's fake and gay. who believes this shit

 

[Rien]

Want to see this but doesn’t show up at Amazon Prime here in the Netherlands

 

[INC]

Want to see this but doesn’t show up at Amazon Prime here in the Netherlands

Use a vpn

Or opera gx, it has a built-in one

 

[Rien]

Use a vpn

Or opera gx, it has a built-in one

Thanx for the tip! Will do

 

[Croatoan]

To claim UFOs don't exist is lunacy. To claim definitively that UFOs are aliens is also lunacy.

There is tons of evidence that UFOs exist. This cannot be disputed.

There is no evidence UFOs are aliens from outer space.

People that automatically think UFOs = Aliens are morons.

That said I watch A LOT of alien shows, and I listen to podcasts that cover that stuff. There are some pretty compelling stories out there, and I love them, but most are just stories. Even the abduction accounts, while interesting and worth researching, are all hearsay and get lumped in with a lot of woo woo bullshit.

Ancient Aliens, for all its faults, has a few pretty compelling arguments in it though. You have to dig through all the rehashed bullshit to find it, but there are some legit interesting things from our past that really do point to "Gods" being "Aliens". That doesn't mean I am sold on the idea though.

I will say that I love a lot of the UFO lore, Mothman, and shit like that. Makes me feel like its possible that reality isn't as boring as it appears on the surface.

Thunderf00t did Busted videos on all the pentagon UFO videos.

I wont watch Thunderf00t after his political bullshit, but most debunking videos are just as laughable and "hand wavy" as the "OMG THIS IS THE ONE" videos. I watched a Goddards Journal (or something) debunking video that basically boiled down to debunking by means of Occam's Razor. If you use Occam's Razor to debunk you are an idiot. If Occam's Razor is mentioned in a debunking video I immediately turn it off. Occam's Razor isn't an arbiter of truth. If you cannot prove something definitively then IT IS NOT DEBUNKED.

The reason debunkers use Occam's Razor so much is because they CANNOT prove shit but still want to claim "DEBUNKED". This doesn't mean the other side, the true believers, are correct either though.

 

[GloveSlap]

Regardless of whether you believe or not, this is a very level-headed doc showing some of the best evidence so far. I was already familiar with most of it, but even then there was still some extra detail provided that was new.

I definitely think it deserves serious study, so i can't stand gullible kooks (like Dr. Greer) and frauds (like Bob Lazar) that give the field a bad name.

 

[bender]

I wont watch Thunderf00t after his political bullshit, but most debunking videos are just as laughable and "hand wavy" as the "OMG THIS IS THE ONE" videos. I watched a Goddards Journal (or something) debunking video that basically boiled down to debunking by means of Occam's Razor. If you use Occam's Razor to debunk you are an idiot. If Occam's Razor is mentioned in a debunking video I immediately turn it off. Occam's Razor isn't an arbiter of truth. If you cannot prove something definitively then IT IS NOT DEBUNKED.

The reason debunkers use Occam's Razor so much is because they CANNOT prove shit but still want to claim "DEBUNKED". This doesn't mean the other side, the true believers, are correct either though.

You probably shouldn't comment then. Politics aside, and there are no politics in the videos, the dude knows his stuff scientifically. His approach to explaining the phenomenon is purely scientific.

 

[Croatoan]

You probably shouldn't comment then. Politics aside, and there are no politics in the videos, the dude knows his stuff scientifically. His approach to explaining the phenomenon is purely scientific.

I will comment if I fucking want to. I used to watch all of his stuff, he knows his science, but watching a few videos and giving his scientific opinion doesn't make something debunked. Unless he has hard proof of what exactly was in the videos (and I mean can point to the craft, the pilot, whatever) then he cannot claim debunked.

This is my point, providing doubt doesn't not mean the same as debunking. Professional Debunkers (including Youtube personalities) have a vested interest in always being able to debunk things, so they consider reasonable doubt debunking.

If thunderfoot can show me via a repeatable experiment exactly what happened in those videos then I will say they are debunked. If he can provide flight paths, or documents to prove those videos as something else, then they are debunked. Otherwise all he can do is give his opinion, and his opinion doesn't mean something is debunked.

 

[bender]

I will comment if I fucking want to. I used to watch all of his stuff, he knows his science, but watching a few videos and giving his scientific opinion doesn't make something debunked. Unless he has hard proof of what exactly was in the videos (and I mean can point to the craft, the pilot, whatever) then he cannot claim debunked.

This is my point, providing doubt doesn't not mean the same as debunking. Professional Debunkers (including Youtube personalities) have a vested interest in always being able to debunk things, so they consider reasonable doubt debunking.

If thunderfoot can show me via a repeatable experiment exactly what happened in those videos then I will say they are debunked. If he can provide flight paths, or documents to prove those videos as something else, then they are debunked. Otherwise all he can do is give his opinion, and his opinion doesn't mean something is debunked.

Yes, you are free to continue to display your foolishness if you fucking want to. I never said he debunked them. "Busted" is what he calls the series. He provides what I consider reasonable explanations of those flight recordings but you are free to disagree with his analysis or ignore them outright and continue on with your baseless diatribes. It's your world.

 

[Croatoan]

Yes, you are free to continue to display your foolishness if you fucking want to. I never said he debunked them. "Busted" is what he calls the series. He provides what I consider reasonable explanations of those flight recordings but you are free to disagree with his analysis or ignore them outright and continue on with your baseless diatribes. It's your world.

Busted is the same damn thing as debunked...

Are you being purposefully obtuse? "Reasonable Explanations" does not equal truth. You posted that Thunderf00t did "busted" videos on the pentagon videos like hisvideos meant that they were 100% a sham.

He makes an educated guess... a hypothesis. You can't "Bust" something based on a hypothesis....and by god if you even think about mentioning Occam's Razor...

Remember, I believe there is no provable evidence that those videos are aliens or even UFOs. The most compelling evidence being the pilot accounts.

That said, life is often stranger than fiction, which is why "reasonable explanations", and Occam's Razor, fail all the time.

 

[bender]

Busted is the same damn thing as debunked...

Are you being purposefully obtuse? "Reasonable Explanations" does not equal truth. You posted that Thunderf00t did "busted" videos on them like his busted videos meant that 100% the pentagon videos are a sham.

He makes an educated guess... a hypothesis. You can't "Bust" something based on a hypothesis....and by god if you even think about mentioning Occam's Razor...

I just mentioned that he has a series (Busted) on the pentagon fight recordings. Personally, I think they are reasonable explanations but I don't have a horse in this race. You don't know what he presented because you will not watch the videos. That's fine. Not liking his politics and ignoring is videos because of that is also fine. What isn't fine is making assumptions about what is contained in the videos since you didn't watch them and thus my post about not commenting on them. My original post wasn't to discredit anyone's beliefs, but just to present an alternative take that I fond interesting. I don't take any one source as a gospel.

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