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The Return of ABC's 'The Mole': Official 2008 Season Thread

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Memles

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It's summer, but that doesn't mean that there's no new TV premieres. In particular, any fans of reality television (or cantankerous sorts who complain about reality television) need to tune into ABC tomorrow night for the return of one of the genre's highlights.

WHAT: The Mole III
WHERE: ABC
WHEN: Monday, June 2nd at 10e/9c

Official Website: The Mole @ ABC.com

The Premise:

"The Mole" follows a group of 12 players as they try to figure out who among them is The Mole, a saboteur trying to keep them from winning money. Players must decide who they think The Mole is and then learn as much about him or her as they can, because, at the end of each one-hour episode, the player who knows the least about The Mole is immediately "Executed" from the game. In the final dramatic episode, The Mole is revealed and one of two final players wins a substantial cash prize.

The Host:

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Jon Kelley co-hosted "Extra's" one-hour weekend edition and was the show's primary correspondent for the daily show from 2001 through 2007. In December, he co-hosted ABC's "Holiday with the Stars" and just recently co-hosted ABC's "All-star Tribute to Movies" on Oscar Sunday. Kelley's diverse broadcast career has spanned over 15 years in news, sports and entertainment.

The Contestants:

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LIZ Age: 60
Occupation: Retired
Whitefish, MT
Education: Associate's Degree, New Mexico Tech.

Liz has more energy than people half her age, lives life to the fullest and doesn't let age stand in her way. Nor will she hesitate to shock people with her outlandish sense of humor. When Liz' husband passed away, she decided to adopt two children and raise them on her own. She has an 18-year-old daughter, a senior in high school, and a 20-year-old son in the army, who recently gave her a grandchild. Her son may be deployed to Iraq at any time. She suffers a bit from the empty nest, so she's eager to have this adventure to bring some excitement into her life. Liz feels that her age will be an asset in the game because with age comes wisdom, especially when dealing with younger people.

MARCIE Age: 31
Occupation: Stay-at-home mom
Corona, CA
Education: High School graduate, West High, Torrance, CA

Marcie got pregnant in high school, married her high school sweetheart and is a devoted wife and mother of three sons. Married to a police officer, she devotes her entire life to raising her family, but sometimes feels she has missed out on the opportunity to do something just for herself. She believes stay-at-home moms have the most important jobs anyone can have; they're not people who can't do anything else, they just choose to raise their families rather than pursue a career. Playing this game will be Marcie's big adventure and an opportunity to prove she is more than "just a mom." She feels that others will underestimate her, and she'll use that to her advantage. Spanish is her first language and she speaks it fluently.

ALEX Age: 31
Occupation: Musician
Haverford, PA
Education: Attended University of Colorado, Boulder

Alex grew up in the suburbs outside Philadelphia and has been drawn to music his whole life. In high school he was president of the jazz band, and now he's an aspiring musician, the lead guitarist for a fledgling rock band. He doesn't want to compromise his musical aspirations, so he works odd jobs and lives at home with his parents while waiting for his big break. He says he communicates best through his music. He plans on bringing his guitar to help entertain his fellow players with a song he wrote especially for The Mole. His strategy is to be the "nice guy," but he says he can play dirty if he needs to. He learned to speak Spanish from his mother and lived in Costa Rica for five years. He considers himself an expert marksman.

CRAIG Age: 30
Occupation: Graphic designer
San Diego, CA
Education: B.A., Point Loma Nazarene University

Craig has been overweight his entire life so he developed a sense of humor in order to make friends. He's a lovable prankster with a big heart, and his magnetic personality has gotten him through life. Craig plans on using his endearing nature and non-threatening appearance to win the players' trust and then manipulate them. He knows his physical limitations, but says this can be an asset in the game because everyone will underestimate him. He hopes to surprise people with his abilities. Craig has sleep apnea, so he has to sleep with a special machine to help him breathe. Craig has traveled extensively and worked as a humanitarian disaster relief aide worker in Turkey and Thailand.

KRISTEN Age: 35
Occupation: Neuroscientist
Santa Monica, CA
Education: PhD, UCLA

Kristen says that, because she's tall, blonde and beautiful, no one ever thinks she could be a neuroscientist. She's currently conducting research to find a cure for Parkinson's Disease at UCLA. Growing up in an upper-middle class family in the Midwest, Kristen showed horses competitively and also dabbled in modeling. She says that competing her entire life as an equestrian and scientist have made her hone skills that will serve her well in the game and believes her athleticism and naturally strategic mind will also be assets. Kristen feels her best trait is her kindness, and her worst is that she's a perfectionist.

VICTORIA Age: 26
Occupation: Retail Manager
Bishop, TX
Education: B.A., Texas A&M University, Kingsville

Victoria is a spunky, former pageant girl and cheerleader from a small town in Texas. She once told pageant judges that her favorite reality show was "The Mole" because you get to be deceptive in the game. This didn't go over so well with the judges. Victoria is very close to her family and professes to be a daddy's girl. She admits that her looks and sweet demeanor often get her what she wants, especially from men, and though people often mistake her for a na&#239ve, small town girl, she admits she can be conniving when she wants to be. Victoria says people usually underestimate her intelligence, but she is much more observant and deceptive than she lets on. She considers herself very competitive and says she won't hesitate to backstab in the game if she has to. She admits one of her flaws is that she cusses like a sailor.

CLAY Age: 32
Occupation: Criminal Litigation Attorney
Philadelphia, PA
Education: Law Degree, Howard Law School

Clay is a devoted husband and father of two sons who likens his household to the Cosby family. He feels that the skills he uses as a criminal trial attorney will closely parallel his strategy in the game, and plans to use his argumentative abilities to convince others to do what he wants. Clay is analytical and can easily hide his emotions. He says he will use the same skills he employs in selecting a jury for figuring out who the Mole is, and that because of his trial experience, he has developed a keen sense of how to read people from all walks of life. Clay thinks he can outsmart the other players in the game because he's smarter than most people. He does admit that he suffers a bit from OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Disorder), and has been known to touch a light switch ten times before he can leave a room.

PAUL Age: 29
Occupation: Machinist
Yonkers, NY
Education: Attended Pace University

Paul has the accent and demeanor that clearly reveal he's an Italian New Yorker from Yonkers. He works 9 to 5 as a machinist for a utility company, and as a wedding DJ on the weekends. It was at one of these weddings that he met his wife and his life changed forever. A self-professed, former "pla'ya", Paul is now a man who dotes on his family, especially the love of his life, his two-year-old daughter. Outgoing and with a charismatic personality, he feels he has an advantage in "The Mole" because, growing up, his father worked for a spy gadget company and would use the gadgets to spy on his kids. Paul considers confidence, his best trait and his worst trait, and admits -- his wife will readily agree -- that he just doesn't know when to shut up.

NICOLE Age: 32
Occupation: OBGYN doctor
Chicago, IL
Education: MD, Loyola University Stritch School of Medicine

Nicole says she has the ability to be a social chameleon, a skill she's developed by growing up in a lower-middle class, African-American neighborhood, working in a white collar profession and dealing with a wide range of patients. She says she can be street or professional when she needs to be, has a strong personality and isn't shy about letting her opinions be known. Nicole is very proud of being a doctor and has no problem with being considered a diva. She is close with her mother and credits her with her success.

ALI Age: 24
Occupation: Model
St. Louis, MO
Education: Associate's Degree, St. Louis Community College

Ali is a model who has worked as a ring girl for the Ultimate Fighting Championship. She describes herself as "stunning" and believes her beauty helps her get her way, but also causes people to instantly dismiss her -- which she plans on using to her benefit in the game. Ali used to be a wild, party girl. She celebrated her 21st birthday with Motley Crue in Las Vegas. But now she treats her body as a temple. She has strong religious beliefs and has settled down with her boyfriend, a UFC fighter. She claims to have a 75% accuracy rate with shotguns and is experienced in fishing. Ali considers herself ambitious and caring, but also forgetful and prone to road rage. She plans on using her beauty and brains to outsmart other players.

BOBBY Age: 25
Occupation: Restaurant manager
Philadelphia, PA
Education: B.A., Penn State

Bobby loves games, competing and winning, though you may not know it from his low key exterior. He's a hardcore fan of "The Mole" and used to host "Mole" viewing parties in his basement. He knows the game well and has a solid strategy to form coalitions with less intelligent players whom he can lead astray. Bobby feels that being selected as a player on "The Mole" is the fulfillment a lifelong dream, and that also being gay, his "gaydar" -- the ability to recognize other gay people -- will help him read others players in the game. Bobby considers himself loveable and generous, but also stubborn and vengeful. He used to work as a restaurant manager until recently, when his restaurant closed. Bobby feels his knowledge of the game guarantees him a spot among the final three players.

MARK Age: 42
Occupation: High school history teacher/soccer coach
Mukwonago, WI
Education: B.A., University of Wisconsin, Whitewater

Mark is an extremely competitive high school soccer coach and world history teacher. He plays to win and has no tolerance for whiners. A huge fan of "The Mole," Mark has seen all the previous seasons and will be very intense and focused about playing the game. His only weakness is his family: Mark grew up poor, in a broken family, but his life turned around when he met his wife. He can get very emotional about his wife of 18 years and his three kids, whom he considers his life. He also has a fourth child on the way. Mark says he thrives on competition and being challenged, and has an IQ of 143. His strategy is to figure out an "end game," whereby he foresees a desired end and the most advantageous route for himself towards it, then does everything in his power to manipulate things in that direction.

The Quiz:

Each week, the contestants answer a quiz about The Mole, and this time around ABC is offering more fan interaction by offering the first week's quite early. Here's the questions that the contestants will be asked, so keep them in mind while watching (With mission titles spoiler tagged just in case, but it's nothing we haven't seen in commercials).

Question 1: Is The Mole male or female?

Question 2: When did The Mole jump in the
"Over the Falls"
mission?

Question 3: During the
"Crusoe"
mission, which group did The Mole join?

Question 4: On the first night, where was The Mole assigned to sleep?

Question 5: As it's written on The Mole's bag, does The Mole have an even or odd number of letters in their name?

Question 6: What is The Mole's age?

Question 7: In
"Over The Falls,"
what was the outcome of The Mole's jump?

Question 8: Did The Mole drive one of the vans to the beach?

Question 9: At the start of the
"Crusoe"
mission, was The Mole wearing a hat?

Question 10: Who is The Mole?

The Reviews:

From Variety:

Interactive component and cloak-and-dagger shenanigans can become more than a bit silly, but a mix of intoxicating South American scenery, clever challenges and a slightly more cerebral approach should establish this as a breezy summer fill-in.

Perhaps foremost, the once-convoluted rules seem less onerous this time -- having been simplified, thank goodness, without completely dumbing them down. (A little dumbing down was in order, frankly, for everyone except those determined to pursue a degree in Mole 101.)

Mostly, the series has benefited from the glut of poorly produced copycats. Measured against that yardstick, "The Mole" feels revitalized -- or at least, as fresh as any reality show with a 24-year-old model in the cast can.
 

Belfast

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Watch it dudes! Assuming it's as good as the old ones, I'll hold you all personally responsible if it gets canceled again!
 
I can't wait as I liked the first two seasons. I hated the celebrity crap that they did though. I'm gonna miss Anderson Cooper though.
 

JCX

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Marty Chinn said:
I can't wait as I liked the first two seasons. I hated the celebrity crap that they did though. I'm gonna miss Anderson Cooper though.

Anderson was an amazing host for it. I'll definitely be watching.
 

Fantastical

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JCX9 said:
Anderson was an amazing host for it. I'll definitely be watching.
Agreed. He seemed to really connect with the contestants.

And I can't wait for this too come on. I really hope they don't screw this ups with stupid stuff for views and whatnot.
 
I'm really excited. I was a big fan of the original.

Hopefully they keep with the tradition of having clues throughout the show. I remember having a pretty good idea who the Mole was in the second season thanks to the clues
 

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fistfulofmetal said:
I'm really excited. I was a big fan of the original.

Hopefully they keep with the tradition of having clues throughout the show. I remember having a pretty good idea who the Mole was in the second season thanks to the clues
Really? I was so confused when they revealed the mole. I always think the clues are bit far-fetched, but then again - they kind of have to be. They can't make them too obvious.

I thought by far the most obvious mole was
Angie
in Celebrity Mole Season 2.
The first episode was a dead giveaway. She made up some crap about seeing an artifact in a mall and saying it wasn't worth much.
 

Memles

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fistfulofmetal said:
I'm really excited. I was a big fan of the original.

Hopefully they keep with the tradition of having clues throughout the show. I remember having a pretty good idea who the Mole was in the second season thanks to the clues

I'm on the total opposite end of the fence: there was a clue on a telegram in the second season that actually flat out said "
BILL IS THE MOLE
," and for anyone who saw it, it completely ruined the game. They need to be more subtle than that, or else it ruins the fun.
 

Pelydr

mediocrity at its best
I only watched the first season, but I did enjoy it so I will be checking this out. Thanks for the heads up!
 

B.K.

Member
I hope Nicole goes home soon. What a bitch. I hope she isn't the Mole. I don't want her around the entire season.
 
Meh, the host is alright. He serves his purpose.

Right now I'm thinking the tall blonde (not the short one) is the mole. She seems like she's acting all the time. Too early to judge on anything else really.
 

Fantastical

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heliosRAzi said:
They don't have the old music :(
I know. :( I loved that music they always played after challenges. It always added a mysterious air.

Good first episode. I kinda suspect Nicole to be the mole. It seemed like her 'I won't sleep outside' thing was way too drawn out. I thought they would be fined.

Goreomedy said:
Wow, the host is, like, a million times worse than Jeff Bell.
Yeah, he annoys me. Anderson... you're just too busy to do the mole aren't you. :(
 

Costanza

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The host really sucks. I think the high school teacher is the mole.. something about the way he acts just seems really forced.
 

Memles

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Costanza said:
The host really sucks. I think the high school teacher is the mole.. something about the way he acts just seems really forced.

I thought the high school teacher was going home, based on his tearful edit at the end, so they had me there.

Kelley is fine when he's interacting with them one-on-one - his ADR work, however, is awful, but I'll blame that on low production costs.

At the end of the day, the game itself (Tasks that embarrass and raise suspicion) is definitely still in place. Sure, I think the touch screen executions are ridiculous, but seeing stuff like the post-execution testimonials done with everyone sitting in the chairs was extremely nostalgic for me. Combine with at least a few people playing the game and the tasks being on the right path, definitely still watching.
 

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Memles said:
I thought the high school teacher was going home, based on his tearful edit at the end, so they had me there.

Kelley is fine when he's interacting with them one-on-one - his ADR work, however, is awful, but I'll blame that on low production costs.

At the end of the day, the game itself (Tasks that embarrass and raise suspicion) is definitely still in place. Sure, I think the touch screen executions are ridiculous, but seeing stuff like the post-execution testimonials done with everyone sitting in the chairs was extremely nostalgic for me. Combine with at least a few people playing the game and the tasks being on the right path, definitely still watching.
I was ready to be completely disappointed by it being turned into some dumb reality show. I was really impressed that it kept so much from the old show. If only it had Anderson it would be near perfect.
 

scottnak

Member
Fantastical said:
I was ready to be completely disappointed by it being turned into some dumb reality show. I was really impressed that it kept so much from the old show. If only it had Anderson it would be near perfect.
This this this. I was so afraid they'd dumb it down. But the 1st mission from the get go just threw all my worries out the window. That was one intense first game. And the 2nd game was just as awesome. I'm definitely excited again...

But yeah, as already stated only two complaints. Host isn't Anderson Cooper... (man, I hope he makes some kind of cameo) and the old music is gone...

But I'm definitely glad they kept the mood of the first two moles (eff the celeb versions). So so satisfied. And mondays are worth looking forward to once again :D
 

JCX

Member
If anyone is interested, you can take the same quiz that the contestants take on the abc.com. So far the majority of online test takers think Victoria is the mole.
 
I think its the fat guy who's overly nice. Whats his name? When he said "I think the wrong person went home tonight" that just told me that he obviously knows he aint going home. He's the mole!
 

SuperPac

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What's supposed to be so great about this show? I watched the first half hour before I had to turn it off. The first task (the harnessed money-grab off the waterfall) was one of the lamest first tasks I've seen in a reality competition.
 
SuperPac said:
What's supposed to be so great about this show? I watched the first half hour before I had to turn it off. The first task (the harnessed money-grab off the waterfall) was one of the lamest first tasks I've seen in a reality competition.
For me, it's not about the games, it's about trying to find out who the Mole was.
 

Memles

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SuperPac said:
What's supposed to be so great about this show? I watched the first half hour before I had to turn it off. The first task (the harnessed money-grab off the waterfall) was one of the lamest first tasks I've seen in a reality competition.

To echo helios, the short answer is "They're not supposed to be challenging." While the waterfall task was definitely less interesting than the second season equivalent, the first season had them jumping out of a plane - if everyone jumped, they got money. The tasks are designed less as real tests (Like, say, Survivor) but rather as chances for people to draw suspicion, create suspicion, and for the Mole to sabotage (In the first task, to not catch the money or to catch the money depending on their strategy - in the second one, to not find items, to choose the wrong items, to not try hard enough with the sand, etc.)

As time goes on, and there's less people, tasks become more focused - there was some amazing stuff late in the first season, and usually the first one is easy in order to actually let them win some money - give it a chance, and it could surprise you.
 
Not sure if this is a clue or not, but...

In the first challenge, Victoria is the only one that appears to have a very small green thumb print on her helmet. As she is going over the waterfall you can see it if you look closely. I watched and no one else had that same mark on their helmets. So could this be a really big clue or nothing at all?
 
bbsting120 said:
Not sure if this is a clue or not, but...

In the first challenge, Victoria is the only one that appears to have a very small green thumb print on her helmet. As she is going over the waterfall you can see it if you look closely. I watched and no one else had that same mark on their helmets. So could this be a really big clue or nothing at all?

It could be a clue, or you could be Corbin Berenson.
 

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Memles said:
To echo helios, the short answer is "They're not supposed to be challenging." While the waterfall task was definitely less interesting than the second season equivalent, the first season had them jumping out of a plane - if everyone jumped, they got money. The tasks are designed less as real tests (Like, say, Survivor) but rather as chances for people to draw suspicion, create suspicion, and for the Mole to sabotage (In the first task, to not catch the money or to catch the money depending on their strategy - in the second one, to not find items, to choose the wrong items, to not try hard enough with the sand, etc.)

As time goes on, and there's less people, tasks become more focused - there was some amazing stuff late in the first season, and usually the first one is easy in order to actually let them win some money - give it a chance, and it could surprise you.
Yeah, the tasks definitely get better. I especially like the maze-type games or ones where someone is chasing another for immunity like in the 2nd season.

Anyways, remember to watch tonight. :)
 

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BobFromPikeCreek said:
Bobby is an annoying little pussy, holy shit. I don't think he's the mole, but he's certainly doing them more damage than any real mole could.
I think he's trying way to hard to make people think he's the mole or he's just a complete wimp. I mean, are you kidding me?

I really think the mole could be Paul.

BobFromPikeCreek said:
"I'm gonna kill you in your sleep"
"I can do it and leave no forensic evidence"

Holy shit. :lol
I'm starting to really like Nicole now. :lol I liked everyone's reactions.
 

Memles

Member
Good episode, enjoyed the tasks and the ridiculous mole scheming/life threatening...but what the hell was that quiz? Half of the questions were repetitive (As in your answer would be the same more or less in both), and the one about the wheelbarrow was literally 10/1 in terms of your odds: if Bobby's not the Mole, you got it right automatically.

I knew they were going to dumb down the quiz as part of making us a bigger part of it, but jeesh - you wouldn't even need your frakkin' journals to write that thing.
 

Memles

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JCX9 said:
I still think victoria is the mole, but clay and kristen join my suspicion list.

There was one potential clue I saw:
When Jon threw the soccer jersey to the group, he threw it to Victoria[/Corbin Bernsen]

Not to mention it was a total freebie for Bobby. Kinda unfair.

I didn't even think of it that way, but yeah - seriously.
 
The Dress Code mission is one of the hottest missions I've ever seen.

Anywho, I think the brunette (Victoria?) is the mole. Something about her just rubs me the wrong way. And she wanted to keep Bobby in, which sent up a red flag to me.
 

JCX

Member
Victoria is still my #1 suspect. She talks a lot after executions, but doesn't act to quiet or loud during missions.
 

Memles

Member
Victoria was acting her ASS off in this one - her talking heads all felt staged, her behaviour during the execution was downright laughable, and if she is the Mole they could have picked someone capable of not being so blindly suspicious.

Good episode due to the tasks, but Paul needs to shut up - those scenes aren't fun to watch, they're just annoying.
 

CougRon

Member
Double execution tonight. Well execution and a suicide...

Darn and bobby was in my top 3. I was sure there was no way he was getting tired that easily. Then he went shirtless today. Now I understand; that boy is a skeleton, geez.

My new top 3 likely moles (in no particular order)
  1. Craig
  2. Victoria
  3. Nicole
 
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