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The Sims 4 |OT| Behold its true form and despair!

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
A Pacman themed nightclub...
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Quoting for new page - this one's awesome.

I had to bring a sim to the lot while I was building, then go into live mode and click on each light individually and there is an option to change the color/intensity of the light. So it was a long process.

Oof! Worth it
 

Koomaster

Member
Haha thanks again all! Didn't know people would like the Pacman one so much. It's only gotten like 2 downloads on the gallery compared to most of the stuff I put up which gets dozens right away. Maybe it will eventually pick up steam; should probably not upload things during the middle of the night, heh.

Anyway, here are larger pics of the lights.
 

Koomaster

Member
Wow. Your skills make me envious.

Remarkable work, Koomaster!
Thank you. Mostly my skills come down to spending an inordinate amount of time on things (perfectionist trait!).
I usually spend 4+hrs at least on everything I build to add details and get things looking just how I envision them.

Here's one from yesterday/today that I spent around 6hrs on...


It is a Lawn & Garden center based residence. There is a home on top and the store section is below.
It's built for a Sim with the gardening aspiration and players who really want to garden in the game.
Took shots with trees/flowers in all the planters to show what it will look like during play.
 
The yellow mat/rug is perfect. Perfect.

The thing that destroys me is colour coordination.
Thank you. Mostly my skills come down to spending an inordinate amount of time on things (perfectionist trait!).
I usually spend 4+hrs at least on everything I build to add details and get things looking just how I envision them.

Here's one from yesterday/today that I spent around 6hrs on...

I suppose that's preferable to spending hours making things without a vision. (my method)

Hopefully I remember to browse the community stuff next time I launch Sims 4. It's easy to forget how amazing communities are at making things.
 

Koomaster

Member
The yellow mat/rug is perfect. Perfect.

The thing that destroys me is colour coordination.
That's my biggest complaint with the game is the lack of Sims 3's Create-A-Style. I've ranted about this before, but it still boggles my mind on some of the color choices that are in Sims 4 for the objects/clothes.

Like sometimes you will have consistent colors; you can find a lot of things for instance the same shade of green. Then suddenly an object will be bright green or an off color green from everything else. I think the building/decorating would be near perfect if they would add Create-A-Style back in. Even ignoring patterns, just a way to adjust the colors of objects would be a huge improvement.

I think the worst are the doors/windows/fences with their weird color mixes. Can't have a blue fence or a blue window, it's gotta mix in blue and white or blue and black. And some of the doors can't be colored at all, just white doors. Only drives me slightly crazy. :p
 
Sims 4 is half off on the Origin Store. $34.99 for Digital Deluxe and $29.99 for Standard Edition. I checked using the Mexican internets and it appears as if the Digital Deluxe is $22.49. Maybe thats low enough for some people.

Ah. Looking at my email, it looks like the sale will last til December 1st it seems.

US

Mexican Internets
 

Zafir

Member
Haha thanks again all! Didn't know people would like the Pacman one so much. It's only gotten like 2 downloads on the gallery compared to most of the stuff I put up which gets dozens right away. Maybe it will eventually pick up steam; should probably not upload things during the middle of the night, heh.

Anyway, here are larger pics of the lights.

Damn, that looks so good. Nice work.

Makes me want to go back to Sims 4 just to build stuff.

Alas I need to finish the other games I've bought first.
 

jgwhiteus

Member
I finally got this when it was on sale on Amazon and put in some time with it.

It's... a mixed bag. There are definitely some good things and improvements I like over Sims 2 and 3, but also things which are a definite step back and make the core gameplay experience less enjoyable.

The good:
- I like Create-A-Sim and the drag / drop interface - appreciate the intuitive nature of it even more after using the relatively complex CC in Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Build Mode took some getting used to (especially rooms / walls), but I've been enjoying it. I don't like the lack of Auto-Roof, though - it's really hard to come up with something that works sometimes.

The bad:
- Lack of color / texture options in CAS and build mode, especially for things like hair / eyes. Creating your own custom colors / textures was one of the biggest improvements of TS3 over TS2, and I don't see why they had to take a step back.
- Lack of careers - like, WTF, I want more options besides start-up geek and astronaut
- The neighborhoods - hands-down probably the worst part of the game. Limited to a tiny number of lots (which are also tiny in size) in pre-made neighborhoods, separated by loading screens; I haven't bothered creating more than 2 families max (in TS2 I think I made 20 custom families in a small neighborhood)

The "eh":
- The whole emotions system really isn't that compelling; it really is just a re-skinned version of the wants / needs systems from the previous games. I have no idea why this was such a big selling point.
- Weird UI quirks - why cut off access to the menu while Sims are at work? You're stuck there doing nothing waiting for the clock to pass; you can't even check up on your Sims' needs. Thank heavens for modders who had enough common sense to fix this.

So yeah, the game's not horrible, just a lot of missed potential and bad design decisions and missing content. If they remade TS2 with these graphics and CAS / build systems, with TS3's color / texture system, I could probably play that forever, but I guess I'll have to settle for this until the newness wears off.

On a side note, I think it's really strange they were able to release pools (which seems like they would take some time to program, including new outfits / behaviors for Sims) within 2 months of release. They were obviously ready to go, so why not just include them at the onset? Probably lends credibility to the theory they were planned for future DLC / expansions, except they did an early release due to backlash.
 
The Sims 4 Careers Update comes out next week.
New careers paths include Athletic and Business, both will have branching paths.
Business will branch off into either Investor or Management while Athletic will branch off into Professional Athlete or Bodybuilder.

Update will be free like with the previous content patches.
Ah, I was wondering when the career update would come. Can't wait to have my Sims try out the new careers.
 

Raticus79

Seek victory, not fairness
Weird, there's a whole lot of stuff in this patch which they didn't really mention. I noticed the phone menu was different, so I went looking to see what else had happened. It turns out they have the patch notes linked from item 6 in their main news post, so it was easy to miss.

http://help.ea.com/en/article/the-sims-4-updates/

Copy/paste:

Update: 12/16/2014 – Version 1.3.18.1010

Hey Simmers!

Happy Holidays, Decemberings, and other end of the year tidings! The office illnesses have come and gone (for me) and things are looking up for a festive year end. And just for you, we have an update filled with new careers, holiday goodies, Gallery fun-ness, some cheats, a gnome on the go, a few holiday tunes, interface updates, and a bug or two squashed!

As this is a bit long on the details, and in an effort to keep it brief, I’ll cut my monologue short. So, without further ado, on with the datums!

The Big NEW
- Business Career
- - Climb the corporate ladder, choosing between Angel Investor or Business Tycoon
- - New Career Outfits
- - New Reward Objects and Interactions
- - New Career Reward Rooms
- Athletic Career
- - Kick, punch, and swing your way through the Athletic career, choosing between Hall of Famer or Mr./Ms. Solar System
- - New Career Outfits (did someone say Llamacorn mascot outfit?)
- - New Reward Objects and Interactions
- - New Career Reward Rooms
- Paid Time Off (PTO)
- - Sims now accrue PTO by going to work, and can use their PTO to take a paid day off without losing work performance
- - Sims also want to take time off, and may get tense if they don’t
- - Sims will start off with 3 days PTO already accrued, so they can start work and immediately take a long weekend to recover.
- Family leave
- - Parents can now take paid time off for the birth of their baby
- - Moms can take time off during the third trimester. Sorry dads, you have to wait until after the birth to take time off
- - Family Leave is separate from PTO, and does not affect your PTO balance.
- Thanks to great player feedback, we made some pretty important changes to Career and Aspiration objectives. Please take a moment to review your Aspirations and Careers, as some of the objectives have possibly changed. Our main goals with this update were to:
- - Get rid of objectives that were too specific or repetitive
- - Fix objectives that were too difficult and/or too big of a jump from previous steps (e.g., going from requiring 2 friends to 6 friends)
- The Holiday Celebration Pack is available for you to unlock, completely free!
- - New Objects, including a wreath, wall decorations, and a grinning holiday snowman!
- - Some new Holiday Sweaters for your Sims (including winner of the fan voted sweater, #4)!
- Here are the instructions for how to get your Holiday Celebration Pack:
- - The Holiday Celebration Pack can be unlocked by logging into Origin and launching The Sims 4.
- - Banners within the main menu of The Sims 4 and in The Gallery will show the option to redeem the “Holiday Celebration Pack”.
- - Click on the respective banner to surface an in-game pop up that will place the Holiday Celebration Pack in your shopping cart.
- - No payment information will be required to check out.
- - You will then be directed to an order confirmation page. Click the “Close” button.
- - After closing, you will receive a notification that your content is preparing for download. Click the “OK” button.
- - Once the download is complete, a notification will inform you that the Holiday Celebration Pack has been successfully installed.
- - You will need to restart The Sims 4 in order to see content from the Holiday Celebration Pack in your game.
- - Alternatively, you can also redeem the Holiday Celebration Pack via Origin.com [insert link]. Simply follow the instructions to download and install the pack into your game.

The Not Quite as Big New
- A new Holiday themed speaker can be found in the Audio sort of Build mode, with all new Winter Holiday songs!
- The Strictly Business Gnome is ready for action! Maybe he’s late for an important business meeting, or maybe he’s just left the bank with an unexpected withdrawal. Only he knows!
- When your Sims get grungy from low hygiene, they will now look the part! Grunge is in, well in the 90s it was, so like 15 years ago, practically yesterday.
- Sims can now EAT the fruits and veggies they harvest from Gardening!
- Warning! Sims can now die at venues! You have been warned… We didn’t increase the chance of death or anything like that, it’s just you can die now. So it’s not so much a warning, as a public service announcement. Announcement served.
- New colors have been added to several existing doors, windows, and roof trims.

The Gallery New
- Gallery Build Improvements: We’ve made it easier than ever to grab rooms from the Gallery by placing a big ol’ button in the Saved Rooms sort. We’ve also re-arranged the tabs to be friendlier. They were pretty friendly before but now they are downright social.
- Gallery in CAS: We’ve integrated the Gallery into your Create a Sim experience in two ways.
- - The first is a Randomize button at the center bottom of the screen. Click the button to randomly pull in new Sims from the Gallery without leaving CAS!
- - Secondly, when creating new family members, you have the button right there to look for them in the Gallery.
- Objects resized using cheats now preserve their status when uploaded to the Gallery.
- Custom Content and Mods will no longer display by default in the Gallery. To see them, check the “Include Custom Content” flag in Advanced filters on the left.
- - Custom Content and Mods uploaded will now be automatically flagged as Custom Content.
- - You can also mark them as such to help your fellow community members better navigate this content.
- Want new neighbors? Simply click on an empty house next door and select “Move in Household From Gallery.” You’ll be taken to the Gallery where you can pick your new neighbors. Move in a great family or some total weirdo, then go visit them seconds later.

The Cheaty-Face New
- Have you satisfied your Sim today? Whims and Aspirations, both give satisfaction! And now, so does this cheat: sims.give_satisfaction_points #! Spend time working on whims and aspirations, OR just forget the whole thing and cheat your way to victory! (Don't forget to use testingcheats true first).
- Speaking of cheats, well, if these two release notes remain side by side, then this will totally make sense, but if they get re-ordered, then this is really going to be confusing, but let's assume they stay side by side. So, speaking of cheats, bb.ignoregameplayunlocksentitlement is now available to immediately unlock all career rewards! (I tried to get them to add at least 20 more characters to the cheat title, careerrewardunlockgoodiesforfree, but the engineers were afraid we'd overflow a sock, or stack, or something like that).
- Set as Head cheat is now actually usable. This was a cheat we shipped with base game but required a Sim and Object ID, which oddly, is not accessible. This is now a shift click option on the object. Turn on testing cheats, select a Sim, shift click on an object and choose Set as Head. Have fun!
- - Hint: Sims will still use objects when oddly placed.
- Can you say MOO? The Move Object cheat is now available!
- - Use bb.moveobjects to ignore placement rules, and push the limits of your home creativity!
- - In addition, while holding the object, you can use the “0” key to move an object down, and the “9” key to move the object up*. The object doesn’t have to be against a wall
- - *For those of you that use saved camera positions, we are aware of the shortcut key conflict, and are working to fix this. But we felt the up/down behavior was just too awesome not to mention it.

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Build / Graphics
- Walls were not appearing correctly in cutaway view if placed near a stairway.
- Fixed an issue where setting a non-1st floor door as the Front Door would not persist after entering Live Mode and returning to Build.
- The violin will no longer fade at inappropriate distances while the Sim is playing it.

Crash / Performance
- Fixed a crash that could occur if the game was exited while a move in sequence was in progress.
- Game will no longer crash when attempting to place a roof nowhere near your lot. Um… yea, the roof, drag it really far away from your lot, and then click. You won't crash now.
- Doing edge case-y things has a chance of confusing our codebase. In this case, if you, by way of the merge household dialog, completely swap two families (basically house swap), you will no longer infinitely load as you attempt to return to the game.

Gameplay / Tuning
- When loading a lot, you will now load into the correct lot for the Sim you have chosen, rather than load into their home lot where they may not currently be.
- Fixed an issue in which killing a Sim in a 1x1 enclosure was preventing the Reaper from completing their task of soul collection, which in turn resulted in the Sim remaining married to their living spouses, which in turn prevented the living spouse from being able to remarry... yea, well you'd be surprised how common this actually is among Sims players.
- NPC Sims leaving an event or job were not returning to their normal attire, which resulted in Sims wandering around in their work outfits, sleepwear, workout outfits, at inappropriate times. Sims should now appear in more appropriate attire for when and where they are.
- Switching between Sims who are on different lots will remember where the Sims were when last you left them (more like a modern day drama, as opposed to an 80’s sitcom that has no memory of what happened last time), rather than stacking up on the sidewalk.
- Fixed an issue where if a plant was on a location other than the ground of the 1st floor, it would cause the Sim to wander to a seemingly random spot on the lot when requested to weed.
- You no longer need to click on the sign post to fish, just click on the area near the fishing spots to begin angling!
- Fireplaces were not starting nearby objects on fire… now should a fire erupt, they have a chance to do so. Makes you re-think that stack of books on the mantel piece, doesn't it?
- The chess piece is connected to the chess table, which is connected to the chair, which is connected to the Sim. And now there is a tooltip that explains this symbiotic relationship if you attempt to play chess at a table without a chair. Please be warned, there is currently no tooltip that explains why you can't play chess if there is no Sim.
- Updated the text that explains the benefits of the Premium Prima Ballerina, to now say Inspiring Décor: 9, rather than Environment.
- The Astro Model Rocket now allows you to View Focused Work which will give the Sim a Centered by Art buff.
- Find a Collectible whims are now 150% more satisfying!
- - Find a Collectible whims will now give you 25 satisfaction points instead of 10.
- - Nah, I'm sticking with - 150% MORE AWESOMER! (feels like there should be an explosion here… go turn on something furious or fast, and then reread this)
- Sims can now paint different quality Focused paintings.
- Insane children can now talk to themselves. What? No, I didn't tell them anything, shh.
- If you cancel cooking before the Sim takes the ingredients out of the fridge, you will now be refunded the Simoleons and the Ingredients.
- Sims who choose to autonomously solve for social on the computer will continue to do so until they reach a satisfactory level (green) or another motive becomes more pressing.
- Children have begun to understand the finer points of the Card Table, and now get Mental skill while playing cards.
- If your Sim chooses to shower immediately after taking a bubble bath in the Double Delight shower tub, they will no longer shower in their clothes.
- You can no longer drag a dirty plate into a broken sink and expect it be cleaned… yea, we're tough on dirt like that.
- Sims will no longer clean up books that were being read to a child by another Sim.
- - "You were done with that."
- - "No, I…"
- - "Not a question!"
- The Honorary SimGuru achievement will now properly award you for playing the game for 100 hours. No quitters! Sit down, and achieve! See you in 5 days.
- Prepared Sims, who have pre-purchased a bassinet, will no longer be misinformed that their newly adopted child is at daycare upon returning home.
- Sims can now Point Out Constellations all the way until 6am… an extra 4 hours of "There it is!" "Where?" "Right there next to that really bright star." "The moon?" "No, the star! The moon isn't even a star!" "Wait, which star?" "Oh, for the love of... look RIGHT there!" "What are we looking for?"
- Reading aloud in a spooky voice, and gently shaking your monitor, would really help to sell the feeling I'm going for here.
- - It's a dark and spoooooky night (or day, or really the bug can happen at any time).
- - Your parents have left you all alone (they left to go adopt a child, and you, a baby, have found yourself at day care while they are away).
- - Time passes, your parents return, but you neeeeever do! Oooooooo! Woooooo!
- - … until… NOW, because we fixed the bug. (But are you, really you? Oooooo? Wooooo?).
- There is something about saying voodoo that makes you want to say the phrase 'Who do? You do' immediately after, which says absolutely nothing about the bug that was fixed. Which is that you can now live drag the Voodoo Doll.
- Nature aspirations (Freelance Botanist, Angling Ace, and The Curator) will now count towards the Over-Achiever achievement.
- The Own a Microphone goal for the Joke Star aspiration will now complete with all microphones, and not just the default choice.
- The unbreakable Princess Cordelia's Bathtub will no longer break.
- Sims with the Hilarious trait were finding their jokes falling flat more often than they should. We have increased the chance of success significantly, though even the funniest of Sims can have an off day.
- It came to our attention, that the Self-Cleaning Upgraded Toilets Union (SCUTU) has expressed concern that Sims are not treating them with respect. Their grievance is that they are taken for granted. And as such, in a silent protest of porcelain solidarity, have refused to allow themselves to be cleaned should a Sim vomit within their bowlish confine. We have approached this matter with the greatest of care, allowing each side to air their issues, and in the end, SCUTU has agreed to keep themselves clean of all things foreign and domestic, in exchange for the occasional nod of recognition from a nearby Sim.
- Practice Fighting can now be cancelled while in the action queue.
- Sims who are at maximum for a given skill will no longer be able to incorrectly build that skill while off lot using the Away Actions.
- Children can now travel to the Forgotten Grotto! One less forgotten.
- Platonic romantic relationships were not allowing the Sims to sleep in the same bed… not many of our players ran into this issue.
- Decreased the rate of weight gain by 1/2. However, Sims will still get fat at the same rate as before, if they eat when not hungry.
- Sims will no longer autonomously drink from the fridge, which was resulting in them getting autonomously fat.
- Sims can now complete the WooHoo! Achievement… so what are you waiting for? Get out there and get those Sims achieved!
- The Hidden Bookcase Door unlocked from the Secret Agent career, now allows you to knock on it. Which means it is less secret and less hidden by roughly 20%.
- Fixed an issue that was initiating relationship decay immediately upon travel, leaving our Sims with a yearning to understand the phrase 'absence makes the heart grow fonder,' as it was most certainly not the case.
- Promised or Engaged to a Sim that dies will now clear their promised and engaged bit, so that you don't have to wait around for their ghost in order to find a new love.
- The rate at which objects break has been decreased, and high end objects will break even less often than previously.
- Elders will no longer be the primary age group found at the lounge.
- Fitness will now play a role in determining who wins a Fight.
- Farmer Flower and Fruit seed pack will now give you flower and fruit seeds.
- Farmer Veggies and Herb seed pack will now give you veggies and herbs.
- Neither seed pack will give you farmers.
- You can now invite “at work” Sims to your parties.
- Plantain has been added as a collectible in the Gardening section of collections.
- Retired Sims will no longer receive two paychecks each day… thieving ol' timers!
- Gardening skill interactions Research Gardening, Fertilize, and Splice now unlock at earlier levels.
- More drinks are now available to make at level 1 Mixology, including the Angry, Flirty, and Focused emotional drinks.
- The chance to find the cowplant while fishing has been increased. Which lends credence to the popular phrase, "You can lead a cowplant to water, but you can't make him not offer cake to the first lure that passes by, thusly ripping him from the watery depths, only to be unleashed within the soils of the Sim filled land, where essence, gloriously effervescent essence, awaits their frosting-filled gullets.”
- Successful mischief actions now give 50% more mischief skill!
- Fish stored in the refrigerator will no longer decay as if they were sitting on a marble slab, at noon, outside, beneath a blistering mid-summer sun.
- Sims will no longer autonomously salvage your TV’s, stereos, and other electronics for spare parts.
- Sims will now swim at pools placed at venues.
- Bladder motive will now decrease at a slower rate while Sims are sleeping.
- Ideal mood for Interstellar Smuggler is now Energized.
- Working out at home no longer satisfies the workout at the gym goal of the Athletic aspiration, unless you have gone through the effort to convert your home into a gym venue, in which case, working out at home will totally satisfy this goal and I just lied to you.
- Punching bag now counts as a piece of workout equipment when solving for the Bodybuilder aspiration goal.

UI / Interface Updates
- All Information panels in the bottom right are now viewable for all Sims all of the time! Including while your Sim is at work!
- The Career panel has had a face lift, pulling some hidden information out of the tooltips, changing the layout, just a little spritz.
- The Collections Panel will no longer rearrange itself every time you open it.
- Sims now advertise their age in the Nameplate. No more “are you a teen?” mishaps.
- The Phone Menu, jealous of the Career panel’s body work, has also had a face lift. A little tuck, tightening, and primping all around.
- Screenshot taking is now available in Create a Sim! Once you have everything set up the way you want, hit “C” to take your shot!
- Late for Work icon has been moved so it is now visible in the Sim skewer portrait (Yep, we call it a skewer. Go back to Sims 2 and look at it again).
- Filters for the purchase dialog were sometimes confused about which purchase dialog was being displayed - seed filters would show when purchasing a book and likewise. Fixed this.
- You can now use the mouse wheel to scroll in the Lessons menu. The Lessons are found in the ESC menu. It's the 3 dot icon in the upper right. Where the options are…
- The credits scroll bar will no longer fight against your desire to scroll with it. The Aspiration panel has been given more prominence in the UI.
- - We’ve asked that the Aspirations panel works harder to make it better for you to access them (at any hour), and provide a faster and stronger presence while doing it.
- The Sims portrait will no longer continue to say your Sim is asleep if you cancel their autonomous sleeping action.

Thank you for all your feedback, keep it coming!

-SimGuruGnome
 

Corgi

Banned
Wordplay on Mr. Universe bodybuilding title I guess.

makes sense... but the description "- - Kick, punch, and swing your way through the Athletic career, choosing between Hall of Famer or Mr./Ms. Solar System
"

kind of makes me wish it was a martial arts tournament master ala mortal kombat or something lol.

wonder if evil makes you better at business :3
 

Xiraiya

Member
I was looking for this thread, thought I'd share a couple of Sims I finished working on since I got the Premium Edition, nothing too special but I like how they turned out.

Hair and eye colors being the same was kind of an odd coincidence.
 
I wonder if this means there won't be Expansion packs and/or Stuff Packs. I imagine there will be quarterly releases of Game packs no matter what. EPs usually sell for $40, and they were releasing 2-3 a year for Sims 3. If they want to keep a similar revenue model, a quarterly release makes sense.
 
I wonder if this means there won't be Expansion packs and/or Stuff Packs. I imagine there will be quarterly releases of Game packs no matter what. EPs usually sell for $40, and they were releasing 2-3 a year for Sims 3. If they want to keep a similar revenue model, a quarterly release makes sense.
No, It sounds like these will replace what Stuff Packs used to be. they're the same price point as them.
I imagine we'll continue to get Expansion Packs on a regular basis.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
When was the last big sale on Sims 3 expansion stuff? I saw one in July before Sims 4 came out for 70% off, but I'm wondering if the lack of content in 4 is making them hold off on cutting 3 Expansion packs as they're still 20 dollars everywhere. Origin do a Christmas sale?
 
When was the last big sale on Sims 3 expansion stuff? I saw one in July before Sims 4 came out for 70% off, but I'm wondering if the lack of content in 4 is making them hold off on cutting 3 Expansion packs as they're still 20 dollars everywhere. Origin do a Christmas sale?
There doesn't seem to be one right now. Origin has a 20% coupon that you can use on anything which expires on the 23rd. Even I'm surprised that the expansions don't have any discounts and yet Sims 4 did recently.
 

Delio

Member
You guys know how to fix this problem im having? Basically whenever I save after a long session the game just completely stops working and crashes making me lose all my progress. I tried making a new file and it did it there as well.
 

Data West

coaches in the WNBA
So I already had Sims 3, and I bought a few of the 'expansion packs' to test out the differences between 3 and 4 because I know a lot of people damn 4 and say there's no reason to play 4 when 3 exists... And they're partially right, but this only really applies if you already have 3 AND the DLC. A lot of the stuff 4 'lacks' that 3 has wasn't in the baseline game either. There are exceptions but nothing major that I could notice. I do hate the lack of an open world, but if they can use that as an excuse to replace more rabbit holes with actual areas then that's fine. The loading could be better for this stuff and frankly, I find the current areas you can visit 'pointless.' In a way it reminds me of Sims 1 trying to focus more on the house stuff which I think is fine. However, if they do a University expansion or even a nightlife, that's ALL about exploring your world rather than just your family, so they'd need to make some major improvements.

I do miss having cars. It was a fun little thing that added character to your lot outside of the houses themselves. I think they'll return in an expansion though seemingly not in this next expansion as that seems more 'World Adventures' esque from what we've heard about it. Ideally we'll get expansions in the same vein as Sims 3 but instead maybe we'll get less 'stuff packs' and Sim store stuff and just more straight-up expansion content as Sims 4 DOES seem less littered with that so far. But only time can tell. I was watching a stream of someone who had all the Sims 3 stuff and it was the most overwhelming catalog I had ever seen in buy mode. It got out of control, and I'm thinking Maxis realized that.

The lack of content really sucks. The Style Creator being gone REALLY sucks, but I still was eager to replay 4 over 3 after spending time with it despite 3 being a much more customization, much more polished iteration. The multi-tasking. This is a fun little bullet point and something people go 'hey that's cool,' but when playing 3 and 4 so close together, it cannot be stated enough how great the multi-tasking is. 3 just feels clunky now after 4. It opens up playing the game completely differently in 4 and it adds so much depth to it. So while I do feel like 3 was an amazing product that felt like 'The Best of' Sims, I feel like 4 is a much better game because it's so much easier to control. It's a thing you don't even notice until you've played both games back to back, and it's a huge difference. Still, 4 needs a lot of work, and a ton of expansions before I think it's 'the' Sims game that it could be. It has an amazing foundation with little to do in it other than the basics of Sims. Which is fine, but it lacks fluff.

Sims 4 desperately needs Seasons. This is far and away number 1 on my most needed thing for Sims 4. It can not be stated enough how much this adds to 3. The snow, the rain, the cycles, everything about it. Even if you don't care about the gimmicky outerwear clothes thing, it just adds so much atmosphere to a game that really needs that to keep you sticking around with families long-term. This is alarmingly noticeable with the free Christmas stuff they just put out. It needs snow, badly.

There's some other stuff like a nightlife(though they need to do something to make high-rise apartments more desirable because Sims 3 was lacking even on custom homes. Not to mention I don't know how they'd do the city itself and traversing it since the open world is gone.) and pets that would benefit the game greatly although I never thought Pets needed an expansion. Just include them with a bigger expansion as I feel like they add very little to the game. Cars will come, I'd bet but that's just real minor fluff stuff.

Very very late on this, but I do find Sims to be a relaxing Christmas time game, and I wanted to revisit 3 and 4 to see how I still feel about 4.
 

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I like the game so far...but I'm looking to go wild with mods to flesh it out. What's the best resource for Sims 4 mods at the moment? I haven't found anything great googling it yet...just TSR.
 
I've recently been play Sims 4 again. All the stuff they added has improved variety in the game play significantly. Its still the same depth but there is definitely a feeling of changing things up for the better. All the stuff they added has to be stuff they were expecting to sell. The free added content dwarfs the free added content added to Sims 3 and Sims 4 has been out a fraction of the time.

Socializing with passers by is still broken though. Its possible for them to leave the lot and your sim will continue talking with them even though they aren't there. Since its gone on this long without getting fixed, it might be a core engine thing that can't be fixed. It isn't a big annoyance. It doesn't seem to break the game.
 
I had a problem where I did a party and after it ended, the guests didn't leave and behaved like my home was their home. Feels like Sims 4 still has some annoying bugs regarding neighbors/events.
 
Hey guys, asking for a friend, did EA just say fuck it to the Mac version of this game? I'm reading that it was supposed to come out october or november but it never did. Is it ever coming or is it still TBA?
 
Only 3 active careers? That's kind of...disappointing. I mean, if I could only pick 3, they picked good ones. I'd just like to see more. Combining it with the "make your own business" expansion was a good idea, though. I like that.

I wish there could sort of be "expansions to expansions." Like, if I enjoy the active careers idea, I could get more active careers. But on the other hand, I don't really have enough money to give EA for even more expansion packs.
 
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