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The Space Invaders Extreme XBLA Official Thread

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What is Space Invaders Extreme?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Invaders_Extreme

Space Invaders Extreme is a re-vamped incarnation of the classic arcade game Space Invaders. The DS and PSP versions were released to mark the 30th anniversary of Space Invaders which saw its original arcade release in 1978. An HD version of the game has been remastered by Backbone Entertainment for Xbox LIVE Arcade with new four-player multiplayer modes and visualizer backgrounds by Jeff Minter, to be released in April 2009 as a wrap-up to the 30th anniversary. The game is played at a fast pace with an electronic soundtrack and sound effects.


The player controls a laser base at the bottom of the display - this can move left or right and fire. To the top of the display formations of invaders appear - these must be shot for points and to avoid them destroying the players' laser base. Sometimes a flying saucer will traverse the top of the screen. This is the same basic design as Space Invaders; the player loses a life if he is hit, or if one of the aliens touches the ground; but the formation of the aliens differs greatly, changing from level to level. Sometimes there are only a handful of invaders in a tight formation, sometimes individual invaders advance rapidly down the screen separately from the main formation, and sometimes a boss level will be encountered, often consisting of a very large invader and various guards. The invaders themselves have individual properties, such as firing lasers, splitting into duplicates or charging for the ground after being hit once. Bonuses for higher scores can be obtained by doing as instructed by words that flash up on the background, such as hitting invaders of a particular colour or particular type.

Shooting four invaders of the same colour in a row awards one of four power-ups; bomb, broad shot, laser and shield. If a different set of four is shot afterwards, a flashing UFO will appear. Shooting that accesses the Bonus Round, in which a player is given a short time to complete a certain goal, such as defeating so many aliens. If the task is completed, the game enters 'Fever Time', awarding the player with an even more powerful up for a short time, allowing the player to get through waves of enemies faster. Getting different combinations of colours can reap different bonuses, such as a roulette UFO that offers bonuses such as Freeze and Extra Player, changing all the aliens to the same colour, or turning all enemies turn into UFOs that reap power ups after one hit.

The main game sees the player go through 5 stages, and depending on the score he/she managed to achieve at the end of the level 2 and beyond, he/she can opt for an easier or harder route, with a total of 11 individual stages. Arcade Mode features a save and retry feature that allows players to continue and restart the game from the level they were on. Ranking mode does not feature these options, but allows the player to post his/her score on the online leaderboards. Stage Mode allows the player to replay any stage they have completed.

The upcoming Xbox LIVE Arcade version of the game is the first version to include four-player co-op and versus multiplayer modes. Players can compete both locally and online over Xbox LIVE.

On the DS, two players can compete against each other locally via the DS's built-in WiFi connection or against each other via the Internet. The top screen is used to display the remote player's progress; there is also an online ranking system and the addition of download play allows a multiplayer game to be played from a single game cartridge. The PSP version only allows local competitive play.

The game features an electronic soundtrack with the sound effects keyed to it, integrating the effects with the music and enhancing it.

Multiple player options for the DS version have already been mentioned above, but in gameplay terms both versions are the same, sharing the same levels, attack formations, similar graphics, music and power-ups. However the PSP version has crisper graphics due to the higher resolution implemented on the PSP. The obvious main difference between the two is the use of the second screen on the DS version. This is used to make certain levels, specifically Bonus Rounds and Boss Battles, vertically larger. When not used for this it contains assorted information on the game currently in play. The Nintendo DS version can also use the Nintendo DS Paddle Controller which was originally designed for Arkanoid on the DS, or the DS Rumble Pack, adding force feedback to the game's music.

In addition to the peripheral support, the DS version features many modes of online play not available to its PSP counterpart; the game can be played against random players and friends over the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection, and top scores can also be shared over the internet. Also, single-card download play is available for local multiplayer. The PSP version only supports multiplayer locally in Ad-Hoc mode, and each player must have their own game disc. No Infrastructure modes are supported for online play or high score tables.

The forthcoming Xbox Live Arcade version has many of the networking features of the DS version with the addition of a co-op mode where up to four players can play the arcade mode. It also uses background visualizers as created by Llamasoft's Jeff Minter.

Release Date:

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...-to-find-earth-s-top-sharp-shooter-next-month

]Make sure to download the Space Invaders Extreme on Xbox Live Arcade game next week on May 6.

Price:
http://www.gamerbytes.com/2009/04/ms_spring_09_preview_space_inv.php

Space Invaders Extreme has also been given a release for April and a price of 800MSP,

Backbone Entertainment Interview:

http://www.destructoid.com/interview-with-space-invaders-extreme-s-lead-artist-130124.phtml

Being kind of a fan of all things retro, suddenly finding I had the opportunity to speak with the people behind the upcoming 360 version of Space Invaders Extreme was exciting to say the least. Taking a game praised by so many gamers to be virtually perfect and improving it before putting it on a new console is no simple task, but Backbone Entertainment seemed like an ideal studio to take on the job, considering their history with retro-love titles such as Super Street Fighter Turbo HD Remix, 1942: Joint Strike, and Gauntlet DS on the way.

I had the chance to sit down with Arvin Bautista, lead artist on the Space Invaders Extreme project, and talk about everything from the meaning of "the new retro" to why four player co-op is going to rock your socks off. Hit the jump to get the skinny on the delicious new content you have to look forward to.

Destructoid: So, we get the gist that you guys have a thing for all things retro! It's not a surprise considering your project history! Well, before I dig into questions about Space Invaders Extreme, I'd be curious to know what your favorite vintage console is.

Arvin: Vintage, hmm. Does Game and Watch count as a console? Not really. (laughs) Maybe that's too vintage. But that's definitely up there, there's so many memories with that. When I was growing up in the Philippines, I didn't have access to games persay, so what happened was I would go to these stores that rented Game and Watch systems for a certain amount of time, so you'd play for thirty minutes. I played stuff like Manhole, straight up old school games. After a while I bought an Atari 2600 and a ton of hours of my life were spent playing that. That would have to be the vintage console that I would gravitate towards. We played a lot of Adventure...

Destructoid: So did I! What about the rest of the Backbone team? Does everyone share a similar love for old consoles and old games?

Arvin: There are two artists, myself and Conrad Seto. He is definitely a classic gamer. I'm not sure if he would go as far back as Atari. I could me wrong -- forgive me, Conrad, that I said you don't go as far back as Atari! (laughs). But yes, everybody at Backbone definitely has gaming roots. We have a bunch of arcade machines, like Rampart, Defender, Joust, lots of super old school games. They would get really into it, with scoreboards and everything. I can't even get close to beating these guys when it comes to scores. You should arrange to come for some sort of tour!

Destructoid: No kidding, I was going to say I'd love that.

Arvin: People here generally love the classics. They would go out of their way to try to hunt down these arcade machines. One of our programmers has a bunch of machines he would always maintain and he proudly kept one by the cafeteria and we'd play it all the time.

Destructoid: Sounds like you guys were an ideal team to work on a title like Space Invaders Extreme.

Arvin: Absolutely. We've worked on a lot of emulated games already, such as Sonic Ultimate Genesis Collection, some Midway classics...



Destructoid: Backbone is working on Gauntlet for DS, right?

Arvin: Yep, that's right. We also did Bomberman, Super Street Fighter HD, Puzzle Fighter, 1942, Commando, so yeah, we love this kind of stuff. We eat it up.

Destructoid: It shows! Well, tell me a little bit about the challenges of bringing Space Invaders Extreme over to Xbox Live. I know it was originally a Taito title, but I assume you wanted to present it on 360 with a little bit of your own stamp, yes?

Arvin: Taito was pretty accommodating on the changes we wanted to do. Of course, there's a certain extent to what things we can change. They were fine with changing the backgrounds as long as it was still within the license. For the most part, everyone on the team were fans of the game before we got the project. It came out on the DS and I thought, "Wow, this is the best thing ever!" (laughs) So I was already eating it up, so it once it came to us, I thought, wow, this is awesome. I didn't want to mess with it too much.

One of the things that happened was that we were thinking about how we would "up res" these aliens. I didnt want to make them smoother. People would walk by my desk and say "Are you sure you up-resed these guys? They still look kind of blocky!" They've very iconic that way though. I did a test to see what they would look like if I smoother them out, or filled in the curves, and it just didn't look right. It lost its iconography. If there was any doubt at that point whether I should change the look of these guys, it was gone at that point.

We put minor touches in it, like we added a nicer gradient to the invader or a one pixel outline to make it look even sharper, but that's it. As far as the shape of the aliens, we wanted to keep it that way. And actually, so did Taito. They actually brought in the original sprites for us to use. In my head, that's our main difference from the DS and PSP versions, because those assets were actually not pixel perfect.



Destructoid: Well, that leads me to my next question: As far as presenting the game in HD, did you feel that this crisp new look could appeal to not only longtime fans of Space Invaders, but also younger people who never played the original Space Invaders?

Arvin: I think so. I think the biggest indicator of that is when I was at GDC this past year, we would find people milling around who had never played Space Invaders, even though they knew what it was. People would come up and want to play --even though we couldn't let them play the game yet! -- strictly because of the way it looked. I think a lot of that has a lot to do with the presentation and the visualizer by Jeff Minter. It's just very striking. It appeals to a certain younger generation aesthetic that's apparent with a lot of these retro games coming back.

Destructoid: That leads me beautifully into my next question, in fact! "The new retro", as it's sometimes called, present crisp new graphics with retro sensibilities at its core. What do you think about it and what games do you think have done it really well in the last few years?

Arvin: I've always liked these types of games, even more now that I'm older. I simply don't have time for these 80 hour RPGs anymore! These kinds of games attract me a lot, it became apparent to me that there was a huge market for this when Geometry Wars came out. It's not really an old game made new, but it does have older sensibilities. When that exploded, it kind of surprised me -- in a good way! I thought, wow, people really love this stuff, and they'll pay money for it. Not every game has to be an epic first person shooter to attract a market.

Pac Man Championship Edition and Bit. Trip. Beat were a few other games that I thought did it right. I love that people are) bringing back this kind of sensibility. Aesthetics are definitely good to draw the player in, but to me, it needs to go further than that, have a deep gameplay experience that I can enjoy, that really hooks me. I think that's what these "new retro" games are doing.



Destructoid: How important do you feel the music is for Space Invaders Extreme 360? Does it really pull the gamer into the experience?

Arvin: I think the music draws that connection to the younger audience. It's got this "hipper" vibe to it. (pause) Just saying hipper makes me feel old. (laughs) It connects people to the game a lot more, it's more aural. The original game has the sound linking to when the Invaders would explode or when the shot would hit -- they would purposely delay sound effects to match the beat. We actually accommodated for that, and Jeff Minter's backgrounds are tied into the music, so you'll see stars pulse or certain colors shift with the music.

Destructoid: Tell me about the logistics of working with Jeff Minter on the visualizations. Did you give him the game and say "Here, do your thing", or did you actually sit down with him and discuss your ideas and work together from there?

Arvin: It was pretty good collaborating with him. What we did was there were certain themes that were already in the DS and PSP versions that Taito wanted to mirror in the 360 edition. There are five levels: universe, earth (above the earth), nature, Tokyo day and Tokyo night. Basically kind of a little progression of the aliens as they come in and invade Earth. So we gave Jeff those themes and then he came back with a few rough ideas, which we would discuss back and forth until we came up with something that we wanted. At first, in my head, I was like "This is Jeff Minter, he's awesome. I don't know how to work with him, how do I work with him?" but he was so accommodating and he really appreciated the feedback. He came up with some really wonderful stuff. Some of my favorite stuff is in the third level, nature, which featured a lot of organic looking shapes.

We had him tie in not just the sound but also the state of the enemy patterns. You know how the Invaders start going nutty when there's just one of them left? Well, at that point we have a slow shift of color and look to the visualizer so in the beginning it's a bit more mellow, with cooler colors, and the more aliens you shoot down, the colors become warmer and more violent.

Destructoid: Sounds like it's going to be really organic too, there's a lot going on that's naturally pulling you in. Let me ask a little bit about working on downloadable titles versus hard copies -- do you feel there are more advantages working on a game that can be released straight to Xbox Live or PSN rather than a physical release?

Arvin: I think I kind of like working on downloadable titles. Maybe its my background. When I started at Backbone we were doing Game Boy color games, so everything is very limited: limited colors, limited memory space, limited amount of animation we can put in. I kind of like that constraint, because it makes me say to myself, "I'm only allowed to do this, how do I work around it to make it awesome?" Downloadable games definitely force you to do that.

Aside from that, I think he other plus point of a downloadable title is that it is easier to publish. There's no need to worry about the production of the boxes, the manual, etc. It also makes it faster as far as the turnaround time and how quickly they can be published. We don't get the exposure of shelf space, but anyone online can browse and find the game with ease. It definitely makes it convenient for the player too, since they don't even have to leave the house to buy the game.

Destructoid: I'm not gonna lie, we kind of enjoy not having to get up off the sofa to play a new game around here!

Arvin: Yeah! And I like this trend of demos being available for the downloadable games too, that way people can really get a good look at what they are going to get.



Destructoid: Definitely! Well, it seems like the the 4 player co-op is one of the big things that Backbone stepped in to bring to the 360 version of the game. Tell me a little bit about that.

Arvin: For the multiplayer, the co-op and versus modes, Taito gave us a little leeway, and one of our versus modes will be really standout -- I think people will love playing it. It's a mix that work soff of the puzzle elements in the game, and you can play with 3 other people on or offline. The versus mode allows you to shoot a certain number of enemies and send them over to the other side, a la' Twinkle Star Sprites. It's also kind of got a Puzzle Fighter twist to it for every three invaders you shoot, you put one into your queue, which you can store up to 12 Invaders in. When you shoot a UFO that's flying by, you send whatever is in your queue over. Depending on the UFO that you shoot it changes what type of aliens you send over. It's a lot of fun, it's definitely our favorite mode in the office.

We also have the standard co-op mode, which you can play with up to three friends, and score attack, which is laid out similarly. Everyone is laid out on one screen but everyone has their own point and combo count, and whoever racks up the highest score wins. There's also Endless Mode, which keeps you shooting until you die -- definitely a leaderboards type of thing.

Destructoid: I'm looking forward to playing those, although I'll probably get my ass beat in some of those co-op modes. (laughs) You guys must have planned some really cool achievements -- can you tell me about a few of your favorites?

Arvin: We have quite a few in there, ranging from simple ones such as beating a certain boss tor scoring a certain number of points, but I think my favorite is a classic homage to the original Space Invaders, called the Nagoya Attack. If the aliens get to the very last line and you shoot them there in the original game, the aliens can't shoot you -- they shoot and it goes right through you. Some people would use this to their advantage, wait for it and kill that last guy, but obviously it's a risky move. If you actually fulfill that in Space Invaders Extreme 360, you get the Nagoya Attack achievement.



Destructoid: That's awesome! Ok, just one more question for you. If you had your pick and could remake any retro game you chose, what would you pick and what would you do to it?

Arvin: That's tough! A lot of the games that have recently come out would have been my first choices, like Space Invaders and Pong the way that Bit. Trip. Beat. reimagined it. One of the games that we love here at work is Rampart. I'm not sure what I would do to it though (laughs), it's genius by itself already. I would have to play it with a trackball. What would I change to it? I can't answer that question!

Destructoid: That's ok, I'll let you off this time. Thanks for your time, Arvin!

Space Invaders Extreme comes out for XBLA on May 6th.

Previews:

Team Xbox Single Player:
http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2245/Space-Invaders-Extreme/p1/

Team Xbox Multiplayer
http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/2275/Space-Invaders-Extreme/p1/

Gaming Age:
http://www.gaming-age.com/cgi-bin/previews/preview.pl?sys=xbox360&game=spaceinvaders_extreme

Worth Playing
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=61609

Screenshots:
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Video:

Gametrailers.com
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/space-invaders-extreme/11035

Youtube
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=Space+Invaders+Extreme+XBLA&aq=f

Achievements:
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/space-invaders-extreme/achievements/
Sure Shot 10
Defeated a wave of invaders without missing a shot.

Combo Meal 10
Destroyed at least 21 invaders in a row.

Goliath Killer 10
Defeated the first Boss Invader.

First Taste of Victory 10
Won an online match for the first time.

Lieutenant Rank A 10
Achieved Rank A at the end of a level.

Lone Wolf Victory 15
Completed the game in Arcade Mode.

Hot Streak 15
Triggered at least 4 rounds of Fever Time.

Space Invader Veteran 20
Won 25 online matches in VS Mode.

Team Victory 20
Completed the game in Co-op Arcade mode.

Hero of Nagoya 25
Achieved 1 ROW using the Nagoya Attack technique.

Space Commander Rank S 25
Achieved Rank S 3 times.

Take That! 30
Defeated a Boss Invader without missing a shot.

Reviews:

Team Xbox Review

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1696/Space-Invaders-Extreme/p1/

9/10; Editors Choice Award

IGN XBLA Review

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/979/979437p1.html

7.9; Good
 
How about the music? Using the PSP version's music? The DS version's? Little bit of both? New stuff? These are essential questions, man!
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
phew, I was worried there was going to be an XBLA game without its own thread.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
borghe said:
phew, I was worried there was going to be an XBLA game without its own thread.


There probably will be, like I don't think anybody is jonesing to make a Star Trek D.A.C. Thread.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
I AM JOHN! said:
How about the music? Using the PSP version's music? The DS version's? Little bit of both? New stuff? These are essential questions, man!


Well, what music are they using in the videos?
 

soldat7

Member
Now THIS is a game I could swallow for 1200 Microsoft Points™...the fact that it's only 800 makes me giddy.
 
Gaaaah I wish I had my 360 with me :( End of the semester approaching, so it won't be long now. Day 1 in any case :D

Musashi Wins! said:
Wow, will buy. So glad I didn't grab the handheld one.

Even without any HD enhancements, there's nothing wrong with the handheld versions. I'd actually say the game is ideal on a portable system, it's awesome to break out and play for a couple minutes. HD on XBLA, though? Definite buy, no question.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Still nervous about Backbone but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm assuming all new music and not excellent stuff from the DS/PSP game?

Yep, triple-dip for me as well!
 

Speevy

Banned
I have two versions of the PS1 release (actual PS1 game and Taito Legends 2) but I'll probably end up getting this.
 
Speevy said:
I have two versions of the PS1 release (actual PS1 game and Taito Legends 2) but I'll probably end up getting this.

You haven't played the DS version? Aside from the basics(can only move left or right, advancing invaders trying to kill you, etc) there's very little in common with the original Space Invaders.

Since you have TL2 I recommend you check out Super Space Invaders '91 and '95. Both games were pretty major updates to the original and introduced a number of features that were eventually rolled into SIE(like powerups, variations in enemy waves, a greater emphasis on not-missing, etc)

Was it ever confirmed which soundtrack was being used for this release? From what I've read it sounds like they're doing an a new soundtrack? Mixed feelings on that one as I'd rather they just sticked with Zuntata's work(DS version's composers).

Nikashi said:
It sounded like it's using the PSP music from the Title screen jingle.

Blech. Guess I'll just have to custom soundtrack it then and deal with the backgrounds not matching up with the beats or whatever.
Thanks.
 

Speevy

Banned
PepsimanVsJoe said:
You haven't played the DS version? Aside from the basics(can only move left or right, advancing invaders trying to kill you, etc) there's very little in common with the original Space Invaders.
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I'd probably get it if I had a DS.

The version on the Japanese Playstation store is as far as I can tell the same one on the Taito Legends disc (DX or something), but I'm all for an HD remix.
 

stuminus3

Member
The DS version is literally the best game ever made.

The achievements on the 360 version here look very easy (with the exception of the VS obviously).
 

Gowans

Member
Well it's just as awesome as on the DS.

Had a little score battle against a bud this morning and it plays so well. Online co-op seemed a little stiff for me but can't wait to finish work and put down some big scores.
 

pswii60

Member
It's good but just feels a little disjointed at times. Like when you go in to a bonus round or die, it just happens, there's no smooth transition.

Feels like it's trying to be Rez meets Space Invaders but only half succeeds. IMO Galaga Legions is a better implementation of a similar idea.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Yep,

They just went with the slightly less-awesome PSP version and tarted it all up in very clean HD. Rumble is nice but the big thing is to finally be able to play it on a stick. Buttons aren't mappable so the "pause break" is way on the end of the stick but I played the others without ever using that so no biggie.

Also, effects background are low-key and unobtrusive. You can change the brightness.
 

senahorse

Member
Sold!

The original was my 3rd ever game I owned (2600), so I feel obliged to buy this (didn't get the psp version...hangs head in shame). Oh and for people who always complain about game prices, I remember seeing that same cartridge for sale as a kid for $115 Aus. /rant
 
Is it me or does this version feel a bit "off" to anyone else? The sound effects when you shoot seem to be a bit late in this version and the transitions seem a bit jerky.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
Nuclear Muffin said:
Is it me or does this version feel a bit "off" to anyone else? The sound effects when you shoot seem to be a bit late in this version and the transitions seem a bit jerky.

Yeah, a bit sterile. Not quite the same as playing on a handheld with headphones and getting in the zone.
 

Yes Boss!

Member
GrayFoxPL said:
After watching the videos: wtf is this?

I don't like it.

Super Space Invaders 91 for the fucking win.

Well, play the demo. I've never met anybody who was not fond of SI:E on either PSP or DS.
 
Nuclear Muffin said:
Is it me or does this version feel a bit "off" to anyone else? The sound effects when you shoot seem to be a bit late in this version and the transitions seem a bit jerky.
Got the same vibe but definitely still a purchase.
 

womp

Member
GrayFoxPL said:
After watching the videos: wtf is this?

I don't like it.

Super Space Invaders 91 for the fucking win.

As a fan of Super Space Invaders 91 myself, you need to play it...Not watch it.

Don't be quick to judge, it's the best thing to do with Space Invaders since Super Space Invaders 91.

At least on the DS it was. :D
 

bryehn

Member
Really good conversion, basically the PSP version in HD.

What the hell is the "Nagoya Attack Technique" though?

Oh, and Arkanoid is also awesome! Feels quite different from the DS version, more in line with the original arcade.
 

GrayFoxPL

Member
womp said:
As a fan of Super Space Invaders 91 myself, you need to play it...Not watch it.

Don't be quick to judge, it's the best thing to do with Space Invaders since Super Space Invaders 91.

At least on the DS it was. :D

Hmm... Intrigued!
 

Shig

Strap on your hooker ...
Solid conversion, but damn shame they didn't use the DS music. It kinda sucks that they didn't implement seperate Arcade and Ranking modes like the DS version, too.

The big "aw crap, this screws things up" thing I noticed was that someone around me on the leaderboards set their # of lives above the default and there was no penalty for doing so, their score got recorded right alongside everyone else's. Fuck that bullshit. Any score leaderboard should be like Ikaruga's, if you aren't playing the default settings, you ain't getting that score recorded on the leaderboard.
 
Shig said:
The big "aw crap, this screws things up" thing I noticed was that someone around me on the leaderboards set their # of lives above the default and there was no penalty for doing so, their score got recorded right alongside everyone else's. Fuck that bullshit. Any score leaderboard should be like Ikaruga's, if you aren't playing the default settings, you ain't getting that score recorded on the leaderboard.

Are you kidding me? What is the point of playing then, if not for the high score. That's bullshit.
 
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