ManaByte
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Gene's vision of Star Trek died in 1982 when Nicholas Meyer turned Starfleet into a navy in space.
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"The Trial Never Ends" - Q will be in Picard Season 2
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Gene's vision of Star Trek died in 1982 when Nicholas Meyer turned Starfleet into a navy in space.
Ulysses 31
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He seemed on board with it considering his involvement with TNG.
ManaByte
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No, Gene hated what Meyer did with Star Trek. But by the time Meyer did Undiscovered Country he was dying so he couldn't fight it. After The Wrath of Khan (and the bombing of The Motion Picture) Gene didn't even have much control over the movies. Paramount put Harv Bennet in control of the series.
And his involvement with TNG wasn't as much as people really look back on. The first season and second seasons WERE a lot of Gene Roddenberry, simply because for the fist two seasons TNG was repurposing a lot of Star Trek Phase II stuff from the 70s. Riker & Troi were just repurposed versions of Decker and Ilia from The Motion Picture, who were characters from Phase II. The second season episode The Child was just a re-written script from Phase II. Hell, the TNG show bible (which I've read) said they'd never have Vulcans on the show; that went away real quick in Season 3 when they brought on Sarek and eventually Spock in Season 5. By the time of the third season of TNG, Gene's health was in such decline the real driving force of the series was Berman, Piller, and the writers like Ron Moore and Brannon Braga.
If Gene was around we NEVER would've had Deep Space Nine.
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Ulysses 31
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Oh, seems what I liked from ST mainly came from Berman, Moore and Braga then. Never watched TOS and Animated.
And yeah, I noticed DS9 having a less optimistic tone too but despite that it's my favourite ST.
Pol Pot
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That would have been a fucking tragedy. All respect to the Great Bird of the Galaxy, but DS9 is best Trek.
infinitys_7th
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Can't wait to read mocking reviews online about them ruining Q too.
Dr. Claus
Banned
How did an incredible progressive show like Star Trek absolutely fail at being progressive these past few years? Oh yea because it is written by slacktivist dumbasses who have no idea how to write compelling narratives.
This season will be just as shit as the last one.
This season will be just as shit as the last one.
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ManaByte
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I don't think you're very aware of Discovery Season 3.
johntown
Banned
While I admit the first season of Picard could have been better I appreciate it way more than Discovery. I like that they are doing throwbacks for all the fans because that is the people who like this show.....actual Star Trek fans.
Bringing Q back should be interesting. I can't wait to see what they do.
Bringing Q back should be interesting. I can't wait to see what they do.
ManaByte
Gold Member
Again Picard is fine until they get to the Soong planet with another long-lost Soong which is just an excuse for Brent Spiner to show up without makeup. And it forgot Lore exists, just like Nemesis does.
But for what the first season was, an apology for how stupid they killed off Data in Nemesis, it's fine. Much better than Discovery.