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The Vatican says: "Boycott Da Vinci Code film"

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ManaByte

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060428/en_nm/vatican_davinci_dc_3

ROME (Reuters) - The
Vatican stepped up its offensive against "The Da Vinci Code" on Friday when a top official close to
Pope Benedict blasted the book as full of anti-Christian lies and urged Catholics to boycott the film.

The latest broadside came from Archbishop Angelo Amato, the number two official in the Vatican doctrinal office which was headed by Pope Benedict until his election last year.

Amato, addressing a Catholic conference in Rome, called the book "stridently anti-Christian .. full of calumnies, offences and historical and theological errors regarding Jesus, the Gospels and the Church."

He added: "I hope that you all will boycott the film."


The movie, which is being released by Sony Pictures division Columbia Pictures, stars
Tom Hanks and premieres next month at the Cannes film festival in France. Sony Pictures is the media wing of Japanese electronics giant Sony Corp (NYSE:SNE - news).

Amato said the book, written by Dan Brown, had been hugely successful around the world thanks in part to what he called "the extreme cultural poverty on the part of a good number of the Christian faithful."

The book has sold over 40 million copies.

The novel is an international murder mystery centered on attempts to uncover a secret about the life of Christ that a clandestine society has tried to protect for centuries.

The central tenet of the book is that Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had children.

In his address to the group, Amato said Christians should be more willing "to reject lies and gratuitous defamation."

He said that if "such lies and errors had been directed at the Koran or the Holocaust they would have justly provoked a world uprising."


He added: "Instead, if they are directed against the Church and Christians, they remain unpunished."

Amato suggested that Catholics around the world should launch organized protests against the "The Da Vinci Code" film just as some had done in 1988 to protest against
Martin Scorsese's "The Last Temptation of Christ."


LATEST BROADSIDE

Amato's broadside was just the latest blast against the book and the film.

Just before Easter, another Vatican official railed against it at an event attended by Pope Benedict, branding the book and its film version as just more examples of Jesus being sold out by a wave of what he called "pseudo-historic" art.

Catholic group Opus Dei has told Sony Pictures that putting a disclaimer on the movie stressing it is a work of fiction would be a welcome show of respect toward the Church.

In the novel and film, Opus Dei is characterized as the latest in a series of secretive groups that worked over the centuries to obscure truths about Jesus Christ.


Opus Dei is a controversial conservative Church group whose members are mostly non-clerics and are urged to seek holiness in their everyday professional jobs and lives. It has rejected criticisms that it is secretive and elitist.

With the movie's opening less than a month away, Opus Dei and other Christian groups have been sponsoring Web sites and events telling people the novel should not be believed.

The book is a thriller in which the main characters must uncover clues they hope will lead them to an important religious relic. Their adversary is an Opus Dei member.
 

Kenobi

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meh, I had pictured Sir Ian McKellen in the book, and so watching the trailer I see that he is actually IN it, made me want to see it more than ever. I didnt think the book was all that controversial, or rather the story anyway.
 

gblues

Banned
Didn't Michael Crichton do a similar introduction for Jurrassic Park & Timeline claiming that it was fact? Of course, Michael makes it pretty clear the introduction is "in character" and part of the story. Either Dan Brown is not very good at making that distinction, or he actually believes his own BS.

If the Da Vinci Code were remotely true:
Who would have bothered following a Jesus who was just flesh-and-blood?

Nathan
 

G-Fex

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I'm Catholic yet i'll see this movie and well...I'm not taking it the least bit seriously.

I think the more important matter is boycotting Tom Cruise and his movies.
 

White Man

Member
Flynn said:
Because they were told it was thus.

If anything, the book and film strengthen the Christian view of Christ by emphasizing that he was not immune to temptation, fear, and other negative human traits. That makes the figure all the more powerful. I guess the Vatican wants people to believe that Christ, while a man, was completely immune to temptation and fear and that dying on the cross was easy as pie for him.

Kazantzakis's vision, not the Vatican's, presents the more impressive savior.
 

Flynn

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White Man said:
If anything, the book and film strengthen the Christian view of Christ by emphasizing that he was not immune to temptation, fear, and other negative human traits. That makes the figure all the more powerful. I guess the Vatican wants people to believe that Christ, while a man, was completely immune to temptation and fear and that dying on the cross was easy as pie for him.

Kazantzakis's vision, not the Vatican's, presents the more impressive savior.

I don't know if you remember, but the intial protests to the film took place long before anyone had seen it. The protesters were quite frequently interviewed admitting that they hadn't seen the movie, but declared it blasphemous regardless.

It's sad, because the moment of doubt is the strongest part of Christ's story. It's really what makes the whole thing tragic and compelling.

I think were the movie made again today, it would be done with the same kind of media-savvy cooperation with religion, just as Passion enjoyed.
 

White Man

Member
Flynn said:
I don't know if you remember, but the intial protests to the film took place long before anyone had seen it. The protesters were quite frequently interviewed admitting that they hadn't seen the movie, but declared it blasphemous regardless.

It's sad, because the moment of doubt is the strongest part of Christ's story. It's really what makes the whole thing tragic and compelling.

I think were the movie made again today, it would be done with the same kind of media-savvy cooperation with religion, just as Passion enjoyed.

Couldn't people have read the book it was based on before they started protesting it? Kazantzakis had famously almost won the Nobel prize -- I figured people would've been more familiar with his work by the time the movie came out (I was too young to remember when the movie came out, so I have no idea if the book was used to further fuel controversy or what).
 
Crap...I wasn't planning on seeing it but now I might have to go out of spite. (I grew up Catholic)

Although now that I think of it, Amelie is in it, hmm...
 

Brannon

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And they still haven't fully kicked out the kiddie fiddlers in their own ranks, but they want to take up the cause of boycotting... a movie.

Right.

Focus on the tree in thine own eye before focusing on the splinter in another's hand maybe? Hello? Bueller?

I'm going to go drink some crappy diet orange soda now, because that makes more sense than this.
 

temp

posting on contract only
Does anyone else have the problem of reading "Da Vinci Code" as "The Vinci Code"?
 

FightyF

Banned
It's not like the Catholic Church said anything like "You aren't a true Christian if you watch this film".

They have every right to percieve it as an attack on their religion. They could be right, and could be wrong, but I don't see any problem with an organization looking out for it's people's best interests.

Secondly, it's not like they are pulling a "let's put a bounty on the writer's head!" like the Salman Rushdie incident.

Of course, offering a counterview to the situation would be far more logical, rather than asking people to close their eyes and ears.
 

G-Fex

Member
There's only one man we can really blame...

davinci.jpg


Da Vinci!
 

GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
Wait, so the movie doesn't have some kind of disclaimer tagging it as a work of fiction? Weird. I'm Atheist, but that seems like an asshole move on the studio's part, to me. Why wouldn't they do it? There's real organizations being portrayed in a fictitious light in this film... they were unwilling to put up a brief disclaimer?
 
The Da Vinci Code is stupid (Dan Brown's writing and some of the 'facts') however it has brought to the attention of some people of how fragmented the story of Christ really is.
 

Boogie

Member
gblues said:
Didn't Michael Crichton do a similar introduction for Jurrassic Park & Timeline claiming that it was fact? Of course, Michael makes it pretty clear the introduction is "in character" and part of the story. Either Dan Brown is not very good at making that distinction, or he actually believes his own BS.

It's not a new device. William Le Queux was doing the same thing with spy novels in the first decade of the twentieth century. He generally believed his own BS as well.
 

MetatronM

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GDJustin said:
Wait, so the movie doesn't have some kind of disclaimer tagging it as a work of fiction? Weird. I'm Atheist, but that seems like an asshole move on the studio's part, to me. Why wouldn't they do it? There's real organizations being portrayed in a fictitious light in this film... they were unwilling to put up a brief disclaimer?
Outside of documentaries, I've never seen a major motion picture that wasn't fictitious (be it only partially fictitious or fully fictitious). Do you really need a disclaimer to tell you something that 100+ years of cinema already should have?
 

dasein

Member
most biblical scholars adapt a :lol :lol :lol attitude towards Da Vinci Code, at least, that is what my flaming-liberal New Testament professor (Ph D from Columbia) said.
 

GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
MetatronM said:
Outside of documentaries, I've never seen a major motion picture that wasn't fictitious (be it only partially fictitious or fully fictitious). Do you really need a disclaimer to tell you something that 100+ years of cinema already should have?

No, you absolutely don't need one. But this group is asking for one. It hurts nothing for them to add it at their request. Just seems like they're saying "no" just to be dicks. Esp. when the group is portrayed in such a negative light.
 
ok, let me just put that on the list
*grabs notepad*
No touching my self
No condoms
No stem cells
No questioning how a man in Israel 2000 years ago could be white
No Da vinci Code

ok got it
 

DDayton

(more a nerd than a geek)
Given the history of anti-Catholic sentiment in the USA, putting forth such a film without a disclaimer that it is fiction seems a bit... shall we say, daft?

Imagine a film where it is "revealed" that a secret society of Jewish folks run the world and/or eat Christian babies at night.

BobTheFork said:
No questioning how a man in Israel 2000 years ago could be white
...? The Catholic Church claims Jesus was white?

Are you confusing it with American Protestantism?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
DavidDayton said:
Imagine a film where it is "revealed" that a secret society of Jewish folks run the world and/or eat Christian babies at night.

Or worse, one where Muhammad runs a Bikini Car Wash in the valley while bombing preschools for shits and giggles.

The article said basically that:
He said that if "such lies and errors had been directed at the Koran or the Holocaust they would have justly provoked a world uprising."
 
DavidDayton said:
Given the history of anti-Catholic sentiment in the USA, putting forth such a film without a disclaimer that it is fiction seems a bit... shall we say, daft?

Imagine a film where it is "revealed" that a secret society of Jewish folks run the world and/or eat Christian babies at night.


...? The Catholic Church claims Jesus was white?

Are you confusing it with American Protestantism?

Its not so much a claim as every picture of him when I was growing up in
catholic school is white, white-white
 

DDayton

(more a nerd than a geek)
BobTheFork said:
Its not so much a claim as every picture of him when I was growing up in catholic school is white, white-white

Check out images of Jesus in Asia or South America... artists tend to make Jesus look like someone of their ethnic group. It's a stylistic thing... I don't think it's some secret underground plot to hide origins.

I've always been fond of some of the Japanese holy cards of Mary and the infant Jesus.

hbynqg.jpg
 

Crocodile

Member
DavidDayton said:
Check out images of Jesus in Asia or South America... artists tend to make Jesus look like someone of their ethnic group. It's a stylistic thing... I don't think it's some secret underground plot to hide origins.

I've always been fond of some of the Japanese holy cards of Mary and the infant Jesus.

hbynqg.jpg

A good point but I'm pretty sure the image of Jesus used by the international church (Vatican, whoever runs the Protestant branch, the Greek church, etc) who would be considered the head authorites on any particular significant religious division tend to favor the white Jesus. At least from my understanding of things. I mean we have images of a black Jesus but no significant portion of the Chrisitan population takes such an interpretation of Jesus seriously.
 

DDayton

(more a nerd than a geek)
Crocodile said:
A good point but I'm pretty sure the image of Jesus used by the international church (Vatican, whoever runs the Protestant branch, the Greek church, etc) who would be considered the head authorites on any particular significant religious division tend to favor the white Jesus. At least from my understanding of things. I mean we have images of a black Jesus but no significant portion of the Chrisitan population takes such an interpretation of Jesus seriously.

Er, the Vatican is located in Italy. Again, it's a stylistic thing... check out the artwork in Asian, African, and South American churches. While I can't speak for the myriad of Protestant groups, I do know that the Catholic Church makes no claim that Jesus was white. Catholic churches tend to portray Jesus and the saints in their own image, as it were... see medieval European artwork for examples.
 
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