phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
Drinky is our tame(-ish) undead.
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Drinky is our tame(-ish) undead.
-Pyromaniac-
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You know what I'm not looking forward to (actually I kind of am), the bitching that will ensue when wiiU launch games don't look a LOT better than ps360 games, even though it always takes some years before the grafix get good.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
Launch games have always looked much better than the previous gen (excluding Wii). Games like Call of Duty 2 and Resistance by far trump PS2/Xbox games in looks and performance.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
but this is a special case, and I said A LOT better
Ehhh, no different than any other societal minority, the hardcore Nintendo gamer will be persecuted as such until such a time that it can no longer be deemed socially acceptable to do so. You just accept it and quietly wait for vindication, makes life a lot easier, y'know?
I don't know man, I can see the system jumping out of the gates strong.
Well the media create thread trolls sony weekly, if that counts.
Speaking of weekly events, I hope Nintendo video is available for Wii U.
JohnTinker
Limbaugh Parrot
I hope Chad Warden comes back next gen
bgassassin
Member
What nonsense is this? Xbox 3 and PS4 launch games should look like real life.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
yeah but the games that will look A LOT better than this generation definitely won't come for a while. I'm not saying they won't look better, just not the level it's capable of being at.
lol by the time those come out, their launch games will look like wiiU games, cue more bitching from that crowd
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
That bad???
True. Hell the thing could produce waaaaaaay better visuals than current gen day one, but the bitching will still be there
Have you SEEN how bad the Vita is selling?
-Pyromaniac-
Member
well that goes without saying. "that looks worse than PS360!!!!".....never forgetTrue. Hell the thing could produce waaaaaaay better visuals than current gen day one, but the bitching will still be there
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
They better be at least obvious. It would be like having to squint to see the improvements between Rogue Squadren, N64, and Rogue Leader, GCN.
From reading what people in the know around here can reveal, I'd say we are looking at least 4 years of improved tech over what Microsoft released in '05. That you'd be enough to see progress, imo.
bgassassin
Member
Now THAT's what I'm looking forward to.
So real you'll be dodging bullets like you're in the game.
ROLF! You proved that wrong? Really? And how is that even a nitpick? It's not about "playing games with words". It's making sure people can't take what you said out of context which you keep trying to do despite me being very clear about my point. 800Mhz is a high clock. Going to 650Mhz over 600mhz is a higher clock. I don't know how much clearer I can make that other than making sure it's known I'm talking about the GPU. Looking specifically at GC and GPUs around that time (which is what I was referring to, not the change to Wii), it was originally a little over 200Mhz (before the drop) and even then when compared to ATi GPUs that wasn't a high clock. And even then I don't get the logic of using changing from Flipper to Hollywood as a point supporting your debate. That was a new console. But even then it had a GPU using a smaller Fab, and a clock speed that still wasn't high in comparison to GPUs of the time. That's what I'm arguing against with your speculation.
And in the end while I'm not saying your paraphrase in that context, a person could apply it if they wanted.
I'm assuming you missed my original response based on this.
Yes, I proved that they would increase the Mhz of the chip rather than add more shaders, especially if they could freely do it. (this is the logic of looking at Gamecube to Wii U.
Also 800mhz isn't a high clock now and days, there is even a mobile AMD gpu that runs at 800mhz. today a high clock is over 1Ghz as AMD is marketing Ghz edition, and OC versions of the 7970 can reach well over 1.2ghz, so yes I think both our points are a bit mucky since opinions is what we are basically arguing about at this point.
I think after this discussion, that Wii U will be an interesting box, but neither of us have a firm grasp of what the GPU will look like.
TheGreatMightyPoo
Banned
GTA: Detroit???
Smiles and Cries
Member
true, you cannot troll the dead its not respectful
shadyspace
Banned
What's 1.8 mil compared to the 3DS anyway.
Gah, that Zelda tech demo is weaksauce. Some nice effects here and there, but mostly looks like up-rezzed TP. Too soft. Certainly nothing special!
I hope they go balls-to-the-wall Wind Waker 2.0, with slate-like shadows ala Majora's Mask concept art. Think a denser, darker MvC3, if you want sort of a baseline. Maybe with Katsuya Terada-inspired art direction.
MAN, the wait to E3 is unbearable. I'm busy as fuck but it's -still- unbearable. We need a juicy leak, like, now now NOW!
I hope they go balls-to-the-wall Wind Waker 2.0, with slate-like shadows ala Majora's Mask concept art. Think a denser, darker MvC3, if you want sort of a baseline. Maybe with Katsuya Terada-inspired art direction.
MAN, the wait to E3 is unbearable. I'm busy as fuck but it's -still- unbearable. We need a juicy leak, like, now now NOW!
Uuuh... there are pretty fucked up entries on the NeoGAF Bans site about Amirox and BurntPork that happens during E3 2012.
Apparently, Amirox and BurntPork merged because of a portal accident to get in the Nintendo Conference. Turns out the Wii U was as powerful as a DOS computer.
Apparently, Amirox and BurntPork merged because of a portal accident to get in the Nintendo Conference. Turns out the Wii U was as powerful as a DOS computer.
I'm way too new here, can you explain the bolded to me.
evilromero
Member
So we about three weeks out now? That last week crawled by. Gonna drink myself through next week.
This. At least now Nintendo games won't be obsolete on arrival like every Wii game on a modern-day TV.Even though I hope the Wii U will be powerful enough to handle ports of Ps4/720 games, I am just really glad we finally get to play Nintendo games in HD resolution.
how come the Wii capped at 480p?Doesn't look right on my HDtv!
bgassassin
Member
The first sentence wasn't even my argument. I've said what I meant multiple times. And even then you're talking about console transition, I'm not.
800Mhz is still a high clock for a GPU even in today's context.
And the last part depends on what you mean by "firm grasp". If we're talking about exact specs then I agree, but what I'm guessing is based on what I know of the performance capabilities.
Too traumatic to start with. We have to work our way up to that.
http://www.neogafbans.com/#/user/amirox
It's kind of a database to see which member was banned and why. But since anybody can make entries, it's as random and unreliable as IMDB and you get hilarious stuff like the one I just linked.
Agent Unknown
Member
This.
If you haven't been reading the forum since back in the early 2000's it's harder to know.
Wario64 clone, Mr. Angry Face clone, joke account, take your pic.
GameplayWhore
Member
Oh, thanks for reminding me. I used this reliable website to learn that Drinky Crow was totallys banned for reals.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Pretty sure I recall Drinky trolling the shit out of Heavy Rain fans too. No need to have a persecution complex.
Hell, if the U outputs 1080p, I'll want a new TV to take advantage. I still have to laugh at it - having to buy a TV to keep-up with Nintendo's hardware? Ha!
Neat. I had no interest in Heavy Rain, so I didn't click to witness that bit of comedy. Time to google, I suppose!
edit: here it is, folks!
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=389414
It can.
Smiles and Cries
Member
what is up with him these days anyway? too busy to troll the Forum?
did you guys take away his thread creating ability dude had some Epic threads and memes
One Console Future turning out to be a One Waggle Future broke his heart or something?
GameplayWhore
Member
Nintendo fans are powered by the belief that everybody's out to troll them.
they're right more often than they should be, though
The GPU in the Wii is virtually identical to the Gamecube, just a higher clock speed, which is my argument, I don't understand why my point is any less valid than yours, when we are speculating on virtually the same gpu just I assume they will target a higher clock (showing that 800mhz should be possible, but never saying that was what would be in the Wii U) I figure if they did 100mhz higher @ say 700mhz that the Wii U's GPU would be capable of near parity of XB3 with the lower 720p resolution, though that is probably very different than what you think I mean.
I am saying Wii U with those specs and some fixed functionality for lighting should make a high setting at 720p vs ultra settings at 1080p comparison, and not your completely bonkers 1080p ultra to low settings that isn't even seen in comparable PC GPUs.
Also, I'm sorry to drag this on so long, I made my statements this morning, and I've virtually argued it for the last 12+ hours... that wasn't my intention at all, I was just giving a simple speculation on what AMD could fit in the Wii U case under 50w TDP
Smiles and Cries
Member
Drinky Crow is not really a Nintendo hater, Ninthings to him are just easy targets
I wish people didn't scare him off and he kept it going. It's one of my favorite memories from last gen. I make sure to watch the video every year around E3.
fixed
-Pyromaniac-
Member
Where have you been yeeesh. He was like the og troll of the generation.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
His words still hurt, though.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
One word: DEEL-DOE
30 secs in. *Close tab*
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30 secs in and I already can't stand that voice. What the hell, man?
EDIT: Gimme a break, guys, I've been on GAF for only over a year!
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