Rap2thaMoon
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Improve the draw distance and II'l be happy, the rest is a bonus.
The Witcher 3 4K Patch for Xbox One X
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Colbert
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2160p CBR is just 2.9x the pixels, should be doable, or they can go native 1800p and then upscale.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Native 4K or checkerboard and then also improve the AA because while it was fine outside cities it had plenty of jaggies in Novigrad and such. Who knows, maybe the patch brings additional visual things too. But if it's truly called 4K patch, probably not.
So it is already coming out for the PS4 Pro in the next few days? 
I've been hoping and waiting so long for this, even though they said before there wouldn't be any patch, lol. I kept hoping.
Now please don't fuck up the downsampling part, alright? There will be many people going berserk if the patch is basically useless for Pro owners with 1080p TVs.
I've been hoping and waiting so long for this, even though they said before there wouldn't be any patch, lol. I kept hoping.
Now please don't fuck up the downsampling part, alright? There will be many people going berserk if the patch is basically useless for Pro owners with 1080p TVs.
1.) Make sure you get the complete edition
2.) If your not a fan of the movement go into settings and turn on alternative movement. I almost sold my game until I found out about that.
Hopefully you enjoy it.
ambar_hitman
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So it is already coming out for the PS4 Pro in the next few days?
I've been hoping and waiting so long for this, even though they said before there wouldn't be any patch, lol. I kept hoping.
Now please don't fuck up the downsampling part, alright? There will be many people going berserk if the patch is basically useless for Pro owners with 1080p TVs.
Yeah. Currently I am on 4K TV but might go back to 1080p in future. I would be pissed off if downscaling isn't there.
For the love of god, please turn of Points of Interests in the menu as soon as you can.
You can thank me later.
ambar_hitman
Member
What is this alternative movement?
A more responsive movement style they patched in.
Basically it feels better to control Geralt.
Journey
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This gif seems appropriate
unapersson
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I remember RAM disks were great in the 8bit era, could use half the memory in my Atari as a RAM disk and was much faster than Floppy.
Can't help thinking it would be useless on PC now as disk accesses are already cached/buffered in memory to speed things up. You'd also need to reinstall the game every time you restart your PC. So sounds slightly mad.
thelastword
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It should now shouldn't it, but many people will tell you it's locked 30fps atm, when it's not.
You have an X already?
If XBONEX has a 60fps mode so will the PS4 PRO, they have the same GPU, one is just downclocked a bit more from a reference RX 480.
This game does not require a beefy CPU, so a mix of high and med settings can give these mid-gen refreshes a nice enough performance mode at 1080p.
There is nothing wrong with his console, Witcher 3 is not a locked 30fps on the PRO, it still drops the odd frame and cutscenes are definitely not locked. The expansions are not locked either....
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
There were still drops on the base ps4 in the swamps for example, and also the beginning training section when you run down those training course scaffolds (Ive seen this myself) which are cleared up when you use the boost mode on pro. Either way, the frame rate in the fully patched version was definitely not something Id describe as shit, and if it has drops on pro with boost mode, they must be really rare.
Andodalf
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What? This is so wrong. XBX has a massive GPU advantage, as well as bandwidth. It's the CPU that is similar.
The load times are already considerably reduced on the PS4 Pro, even before the boost mode was added.
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Rellik
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No one knows yet.
I was watching this video and it seems like they were still pretty bad on the pro.
https://youtu.be/C5wKNkV-0x0
Thanks
endlessflood
Member
I doubt it, consoles have horrific loading times this gen, and the fact that's it's not limited to one game or platform seems to indicate that they're here to stay. I'm assuming it's anti-piracy measures (HDD encryption, etc.) that are to blame, and they're probably not things that are likely to be changed. I don't think you can really expect any difference over Boost mode on the Pro (which already exploits the Pro's better I/O AFAIK).
It would be nice to be surprised, but I won't hold my breath.
I wonder what's the chances they have implemented CBR into their engine for cyberpunk and have added it to the patch for Witcher.
Slower decompression due to CPU limits, larger amounts of data to fill into memory, similar HDD speeds to last gen, etc. have all contributed to the load times seen this gen. I'm hoping we at least move over to 7200rpm drives next gen.
Slower decompression due to CPU limits, larger amounts of data to fill into memory, similar HDD speeds to last gen, etc. have all contributed to the load times seen this gen. I'm hoping we at least move over to 7200rpm drives next gen.
endlessflood
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With equivalent hardware, we see PC versions enjoying huge gains over the consoles when it comes to load times though. It does seem to be something console specific (which is why I guessed it's the various anti-piracy measures, particularly the encrypted HDDs).
There aren't really any PCs out there kicking around with equivalent hardware. Even a Skylake i3 has far better IPC than what we see in consoles.
Much of the enthusiast market also keeps their most played games on SSDs which basically leads to 0 loading times when combined with a mid-high range CPU.
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Eh, no? Why you ask? I was merely speculating what could be the case for Xbox One X with this game.
Also shouldn't loading times definitely be shorter thanks to the One X anyway? They did say several things like much better AF are forced and loading times shorter. Wonder how much shorter.
Why is that? On my first playthrough that I never finished I didn't turn it off.
Yeah, the load time improvements using boost mode in Witcher 3 are some of the best and most noticeable boost mode enhancements in any game on the Pro.
It feels like they are reduced 50 to even 75% depending on where you are and what you are loading.
Because you'll just be running from icon to icon rather than exploring the world organically.
Even a cheap $70 pentium outperforms the Jaguar chips. Encryption may play a part but I think the faster CPU, additional memory, and higher bandwidth on the PC likely contributes more to the increase in speed.
I wouldn't attempt to engage thelastword in a serious discussion. I'm convinced the mods keep him around for comic relief.
If they add higher resolution textures to the 1X version, load times may not be quicker. It also my not have better AF, though we may see an increase in texture filtering from the higher resolution alone. The system implementation of 16xAF and shorter load times only applies to unpatched games. So this wouldn't apply to Witcher 3.
No 2160 CBR has the same amount of pixels as 2160 native
RoadHazard
Gold Member
My original playthrough of this game got interrupted and never continued, and I just got a Pro, so once this patch drops seems like a great time to jump back in (or start over, more likely).
Dictator93
Member
Sure, the pixels of the final output image, but we all know leaving it *at that* would be dishonest. There is a reason why there is a differentiation between native 3840X2160 and and a 3840X2160 being drawn by some CBR-like technique. One is more accurate, more detailed, and reflects best what *actual* pixels are in the current frame.
xenorevlis
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You know they mean before reconstruction. 2160CBR is half native 4K per frame and reconstructed after the first one.
Colbert
Banned
For CBR half of the pixels are rendered per frame to construct a 2160p image. The other half is used from the previous frame. In my book its a render path half the pixels to native 4K. Don't even try to deny that!
thelastword
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What is so wrong, both of the GPU's are based on RX 480......As a matter of fact the PRO has some unique features that helps it with rendering, like CBR hardware, RPM and the ID buffer...but on a base level they're both based on the Polaris GPU...
It also makes no sense to speak of bandwidth without presenting the whole picture, because the PS4 has a 20 GBPS interconnect between CPU to GPU...CPU to Memory on top of the features mentioned above (id buffer, rpm, cbr hardware)..all of that that would maximize efficiency on render time.....So real world results....? If all of these features are used should prove very interesting...
Of course I don't expect this Witcher Patch to make use of FP16, but hey, they could use geometry rendering for their performance mode to maximize fps there, so they have many ways to meet their target on the PRO at least...
Tbh, these load times should have never been so awful on the consoles...I've seen Witcher tested on PC APU's with weaker GPUs's than what was in vanilla PS4 and loadtimes were excellent...
But yes, loadtimes, DD, AF and general graphics settings should get a huge boost on top of framerate....I did say should, because I really don''t know what this dev will bring to the table unless the patch is live...So I'm looking forward to see if they improve console settings to PC high-ultra standards....at the very least.
inpHilltr8r
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n/m just bitching about the UI again
Yes, especially when the technique of uprendering is used, which bypasses the flux capacitors and reconfigurates the shader flanges.
Dictator93
Member
Perhaps. RAM disk is running all the games files from main system RAM, so instead of it paging your HDD or SSD which has seek times, it would be working within RAM, thus massively reducing the intensity and perhaps occurance of stutter.
Though I am not sure what the cause is, harwadre or software-wise, why upping those config variables starts a stutter. It does the same on my PC. I never tried a RAM disk though as the game is fucking huge, you would need 48 GB or 64 GB RAM.
Bits N Pieces
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It's not as simple as that either it's not just a old frame slapped together with the new frame to make a full frame.
every pixel on the screen is rendered but some use data from the older frame to help with the rendering.
Lol half the pixels use previous frame. It's nothing like rendering a native res where the entire scene is rendered at the res in one pass in realtime. Using previous frame to fill in missing pixels is not the same. Not saying checkerboarding is bad it's really good but nothing compared to a native res technically
MosquitoSmasher
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Good point for sure because I indeed kept going after those icons I saw on the minimap. Kinda like "oh hey another, let's go check it out."
It's much cooler to actually just explore around and out of the blue a new quest is triggered. I'll make sure to turn them off when I begin my new playthrough come November.
@thelastword
As amazing as this game was, those loading times really ruined it at times and it made me change the difficulty from Blood and broken bones to something easier. I love to explore and that means I could meet a very powerful enemy when I least expect it. I like a challenge and I don't mind dying and having to retry but the loading times each time were killing.
Not sure what the GPU part has to do there
jim2point0
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The point of the original statement....
...was to compare PERFORMANCE. And as far as performance is concerned, CBR 4K is not the same as native 4K. Regardless of how many pixels are presented to the display. That is irrelevant.
That's not what's happening
Colbert
Banned
The performance isn't the same as rendering half the pixels either
You know that the frame time measured is not just that particular render step that is needed for construct the 2160p image (native or checkerboarded) but also for example culling, post processing and AI, right?
Also nobody pretended that CBR takes half the processing compared to native rendering. It is obvious that there is additional processing needed to construct the image to a full frame buffer.
My last response to the matter as I don't want to derail the thread any further!