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The X-Files was some of the best television from the '90s

Yeah Fringe definitely gives me a similar vibe, but it never reaches the heights of the X-Files, despite being more consistent in terms of quality. There were some awful X-Files episodes, especially towards the end. Everyone needs to check out Millennium too, which is criminally underrated and has been largely erased from history - I had to buy the DVDs second hand, as I couldn't find it on any streaming service.
The Lone Gunmen was pretty decent. I still need to watch Millennium.
 

NeoGiffer

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They played the whole series on TV in Australia recently. First 3 or 4 seasons are god-tier, it kinda got a bit lame season 6 and onwards
 
X-Files was chill up until like season 5 or so. Right until the first movie. Then it got fairly bland and clumsy. I hear Mulder even leaves

Buffy is the superior show. Buffy also starts out sorta "monster of the week" in its first season, but ultimately the writing retains its quality throughout all 7 seasons. It's so fucking well written. The UPN seasons arent as kino as the OG WB ones, but the show never feels as mishandled as X-Files became, even with its weakest episodes.

Strange comparison considering they're completely different genres
 

Pagusas

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So does it still hold up? I've never seen it but always wanted to check it out.

Production wise no, writing wise it’s way slower than anything on TV today and you can see a lot of currently used tropes in there infancy, thus a lot of the shock and awe isn’t there anymore. But if you can put yourself in the time period, then yes it does hold up well enough you can appreciate it. I personally love it, even the later seasons, but it gives me an ultra nostalgic blast that makes me happy. Remove that and I’m not sure you’d have anything other than some great lead charecters and the occasional top tier episode.
 
X-Files focuses on the paranormal, while Buffy handles the supernatural, but I'm not so sure about that.

Explain?

One is a show about 2 humans investigating paranormal activity and heavily sci-fi based, uncovering conspiracies etc

The other is Buffy
 
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teezzy

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I watched one or two episodes of Buffy and the spin-off Angel when they aired but don't really remember anything. It's kind of similar to shows that came later like Supernatural, right?

Late '90s/early '00s television on FOX though, other than The X-Files, I also watched Dark Angel for a little while because of Jessica Alba. But there wasn't really anything like The X-Files until Fringe which was so good.

I've never actually checked out Supernatural, but that show's creators are admittedly huge Buffy devotees. Just like X-Files, BtVS is an influential cornerstone in the history of genre television.

I get it though, BtVS is super easy to underestimate. The name and premise seem silly, it's a WB show, and it will forever be associated with shows/flicks like Twilight, Vampire Diaries, and True Blood.

I'd caught random episodes growing up, but upon revisiting years ago, I expected to sort of watch Buffy and not take it too seriously. I was floored at just how much I adored it. Years later, I still find myself looking for any chance to talk about it that I can (like this post). I'm somewhat obsessed.

Ultimately, if you love X-Files, and think vampires, demons, and 90s hotties are cool - you owe it to yourself to give Buffy a shot. There's a reason the show accrued the cult fandom it did.

It's on various streaming services, but they really botched the transfer forcing the show into 16:9 for whatever reason. Certain sfx were botched, and some crew members get into the frame as a result.

I'd recommend finding the first two seasons on DVD or finding a DVD rip somewhere. The streams are okay if you just want to try it out though. First season is very much like X-Files S1 where the show is finding its footing.

If X-Files is your favorite show ever, then I couldn't see you not enjoying it. Joss Whedon did alright with Firefly and eventually the Avengers, but Buffy/Angel is his magnum opus.

Thanks for letting me hijack your thread. 😎

One is a show about 2 humans investigating paranormal activity and heavily sci-fi based, uncovering conspiracies etc

The other is Buffy

Oh, okay. You're just being dismissive. Understood.
 
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Who didn’t?
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Anderson and Gigi Edgely were some of the hottest women to grace science fiction. And both are still incredible.

If X-Files is your favorite show ever, then I couldn't see you not enjoying it. Joss Whedon did alright with Firefly and eventually the Avengers, but Buffy/Angel is his magnum opus.

I like Angel (moreso) and Buffy just fine - what sets the X-Files is that it feels very real and mysterious, aside from some of the intentionally goofy episodes like the vampire trailer park one, or The Postmodern Prometheus. Buffy has extensive lore, which is fun in its own right, but the X-Files is about discovery. Mulder may have some intel, but (outside of human conspiracies) generally that is just enough to point him in the direction of something.

I'm also not a big fan of teenage melodrama. Not that the X-Files did not have its fair share of melodrama (which is why the later season main arcs got so bad) but the Monster of the Week episodes almost always lacked that.
 
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I've never actually checked out Supernatural, but that show's creators are admittedly huge Buffy devotees. Just like X-Files, BtVS is an influential cornerstone in the history of genre television.

I get it though, BtVS is super easy to underestimate. The name and premise seem silly, it's a WB show, and it will forever be associated with shows/flicks like Twilight, Vampire Diaries, and True Blood.

I'd caught random episodes growing up, but upon revisiting years ago, I expected to sort of watch Buffy and not take it too seriously. I was floored at just how much I adored it. Years later, I still find myself looking for any chance to talk about it that I can (like this post). I'm somewhat obsessed.

Ultimately, if you love X-Files, and think vampires, demons, and 90s hotties are cool - you owe it to yourself to give Buffy a shot. There's a reason the show accrued the cult fandom it did.

It's on various streaming services, but they really botched the transfer forcing the show into 16:9 for whatever reason. Certain sfx were botched, and some crew members get into the frame as a result.

I'd recommend finding the first two seasons on DVD or finding a DVD rip somewhere. The streams are okay if you just want to try it out though. First season is very much like X-Files S1 where the show is finding its footing.

If X-Files is your favorite show ever, then I couldn't see you not enjoying it. Joss Whedon did alright with Firefly and eventually the Avengers, but Buffy/Angel is his magnum opus.

Thanks for letting me hijack your thread. 😎



Oh, okay. You're just being dismissive. Understood.

I watched a lot of Buffy back in the day. I know the program

This is the first time in any of my lifetimes that anyone has equated the two. It blows my mind
 

teezzy

Banned
Anderson and Gigi Edgely were some of the hottest women to grace science fiction. And both are still incredible.



I like Angel (moreso) and Buffy just fine - what sets the X-Files is that it feels very real and mysterious, aside from some of the intentionally goofy episodes like the vampire trailer park one, or The Postmodern Prometheus. Buffy has extensive lore, which is fun in its own right, but the X-Files is about discovery. Mulder may have some intel, but (outside of human conspiracies) generally that is just enough to point him in the direction of something.

I'm also not a big fan of teenage melodrama. Not that the X-Files did not have its fair share of melodrama (which is why the later season main arcs got so bad) but the Monster of the Week episodes almost always lacked that.

Sure, I can agree with that. 🙂

Buffy is definitely more fun and fantastical, while X-Files, for the most part, remained more grounded. You won't find any series long skeptic characters like Scully on BtVs. Moreso the general attitude is, "Okay, this shit exists, our town is on a Hellmouth, what do we do about it?" Then the writers have a field day exploring the realities of the world they created.

The writing on Buffy has more jokes, love triangles, and there's more fight scenes, etc. I dont recall Mulder trading kung fu blows with any aliens lol.

Two sides of the same coin I'd argue still. I love them both, but I'm fanatical about one while I enjoy the other's earlier seasons. Both are great and I own the DVDs.

 

xrnzaaas

Member
I liked the case of the week episodes on this show, because they had some really cool cases like Tooms. I was never a big fan of the main plot, even when I originally watched the early seasons back in the 90s.
 
Production wise no, writing wise it’s way slower than anything on TV today and you can see a lot of currently used tropes in there infancy, thus a lot of the shock and awe isn’t there anymore. But if you can put yourself in the time period, then yes it does hold up well enough you can appreciate it. I personally love it, even the later seasons, but it gives me an ultra nostalgic blast that makes me happy. Remove that and I’m not sure you’d have anything other than some great lead charecters and the occasional top tier episode.

Idk. I would say a decent chunk of the Monster of the Week episodes hold up beautifully in terms of the whole production package of writing and atmospheric cinematography (especially any of the David Nutter or Vince Gilligan episodes).

The S4 episode Home is probably the one that stands the test of time the most (it's FUCKED up even by today's standards).
 
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