You don't think Sony spent a similar amount of money on the DS4?
The Xbox One controller cost $100,000,000
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You don't think Sony spent a similar amount of money on the DS4?
mugurumakensei
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100M and still asymmetrical sticks. Da fug.
I like how the rumble are now two strong at the grip and the smaller under the trigger instead of the asymmetrical rumble position we always had before.
Also, goodbye Shandy
goldenpp72
Member
Honestly if this means they have fixed the Dpad, the drifting problems with the sticks, and more sturdy bumpers on top of the new rumble stuff, I don't care how much they spent 
dragonelite
Member
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I approve of this vast expenditure of money, because if Sony isn't going to make PC drivers for the DS4, then I'm going over to the XBone controller for my PC shenanigans, and whether on PC or XBone, none of those fancy graphics matter one bit if the input is ass. Controller design should get a king's share of the budget in my fact.
There I said something positive in MS's direction. That wasn't so hard.
I approve of this vast expenditure of money, because if Sony isn't going to make PC drivers for the DS4, then I'm going over to the XBone controller for my PC shenanigans, and whether on PC or XBone, none of those fancy graphics matter one bit if the input is ass. Controller design should get a king's share of the budget in my fact.
There I said something positive in MS's direction. That wasn't so hard.
goldenpp72
Member
Do people seriously not know about eneloop batteries? I'm tired of this, only ignorant people would buy a play and charge kit when you can probably get a set of 8 batteries and an eneloop charger for a comparable price and use it on many controllers/devices.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Making a controller that will last the entire generation is a poor long term investment?
Gotcha.
I'm curious how you can say your thumb naturally just sits on the analog with a PS3. At a resting position with the controller my finger lays on the D-Pad. On a 360 it rests on the stick. It's not natural to extend your thumb down to the analog.
I know different strokes and all, but ergonomically speaking the 360 just feels better in hand.
Yeah, it's stupid for MS to stick to the left analog being in the natural position where your thumb rests.
MrCunningham
Member
I think it would be stupid for Microsoft to not support windows with the Xbox One pad. They're already planning on releasing a version of Kinect 2.0 for PC.
The eneloop set up is still more inconvenient though, as you have to take batteries out, stick them in a wall charger, then stick new batteries in instead of just plugging in a cable.
Estocolmo
Member
There are a lot of ignorant people playing video games.
I actually prefer not having to switch in and out batteries. It's an additional step. I'm currently using that docking station for my 360 controllers. Haven't had to change the batteries ever. I will most likely go with the same cleaner and more efficient solution again when I buy this controller. I already have a lot of shit here too, so anything I can do to reduce clutter is welcome.
I don't mind paying extra for convenience. The way I see it, if this is something that I will be using for the next 10+ years I'd like a more permanent and effortless solution.
Claude Kenni
Member
Why are so many people assuming with no context or any logical basis besides pure speculation that this is wasteful? Even if it was, which it's not, it would be an absolutely good thing yet there's still criticism.
I know there are so many posters here that all sides of a debate including the ignorant ones are represented but it's clear that there are users here who take their bias way too far. Not a big percentage since I'm not generalizing but some criticizing this should take a second to think if they would assume it was wasteful if Sony provided a similar figure.
I know there are so many posters here that all sides of a debate including the ignorant ones are represented but it's clear that there are users here who take their bias way too far. Not a big percentage since I'm not generalizing but some criticizing this should take a second to think if they would assume it was wasteful if Sony provided a similar figure.
HoodWinked
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^cause its the internet :/
Yeah but I'm shocked that it won't be ready at launch instead they gave some vague "2014" date.
Plugging a cable I guess seems more convenient but I charge batteries as they go out. The difference is minor although I like keeping a wireless controller wireless.
This one says 110 minutes for 2x, 220 minutes for 4x. That's close to how long my old Panasonic BQ-390 takes. Some others on their site seems to vary but they all seem different on purpose. And that set of 4 should should last years if not more than a decade with little quality loss.
Also, never knew they offered an official charger through usb. Interesting.
Dirk Benedict
Member
They made the best damned PC controller even better. Kudos to MS.
The bravos of all bravos must be given.
The bravos of all bravos must be given.
I cannot thank them enough for XInput. This new controller looks like money well spent.
Dirk Benedict
Member
I may buy two of them. Also, the prospects of gaming on PC with a DS4 also sounds deliciously interesting.
Yes, lots of companies spend very inefficiently, that doesn't suddenly make it a badge of honor to do so.
Since you're berating others for their assumptions, I can only logically conclude that you can provide context and logical basis for the bolded? Kinda weird that you didn't considering that your criticizing others for the same...Claude Kenni said:
Fried Food
Banned
I don't like how flat the front looks
You know it won't.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I swear the buttons better not stick like the current pad or else I'm not picking one up for my PC initially.
Darkroronoa
Member
They only had to change the dpad and spent that 100m to develop some games.100m is ridiculus.
Mashin Haters
Member
didnt they experiment with a controller with a screen and one that could emit smells LOL
Uno Venova
Banned
I don't know how this stacks up with past controller projects, but it seems ridiculously high, it better not have any build quality problems like the last one for that amount of paper.
I guess it depends on how much they spent on hardware... When it comes to salaries, to spend $50 million a year you need a pretty big team. Let's say each employee costs them $250k (including salary, healthcare, taxes, office space etc.), that means a 200-man team.
Seems like a lot for a controller, then again I don't know much about hardware development.
It's $100 million of R+D to a product that likely generated over $5 billion in direct revenue last generation- and I'm being conservative as it's not counting indirect revenue
I don't see why people think this is too much
Xbox 360 is one of the best controllers of all time and became the first PC standard pad since the very shitty gravis game pad reared its head - they accomplished something the sidewinder team never could
There's a lot of money riding on the continued success of these devices
Robot Pants
Member
100m to make it worse.
Money well spent.
Money well spent.
But it's not worse?
This sounds pretty excessive. I don't know, but I think I would've fired someone if it took them $100 million to make a controller. But it's well appreciated that they're going those lengths to make a great controller. I can't wait to get my hands on one to see how it feels, and if the D-pad improvements and impulse triggers are meaningful in any way.
IdreamofHIME
Member
But it just looks the same? They should demand a refund.
link1201
Member
It what way(s) is it worse?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
What?
ShikaTheReaper
Member
I came in here expecting this to be a joke. Still leaving with a laugh.