12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
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There is no Epstein Client List
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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ChorizoPicozo
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adj83
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But that does not line up with pretty much every single data point that was available until a fortnight ago. It pretty much contradicts quite a bit of what was known or what has been observed over a long period of time. I have no idea why he has behaved the way he has done recently but that doesn't mean I'll just forget or disregard any info that is more than a few weeks old. I am not American, I don't live in the US and the only thing close to a horse that I have in this is wanting child abusers to face justice and severe consequences. But automatically disregarding the data points we had until a fortnight ago, choosing to believe that he was abusing minors with Epstein and that "The Walls Are Closing In, Again" just seems strange or wishful thinking.
if he knew that he was guilty of it as well and he would probably be in any evidence, why on earth would he draw attention to it, over a long period of time, and then for the top FBI jobs select people who are well known for drawing even more attention to it on various podcast interviews? Why would Epstein take his own life and Maxwell take a guilty verdict during his 1st term if they knew that he was involved, there was evidence and that he could be threatened with the truth coming out? You don't think that it seems odd? That maybe we're missing some important info and maybe we should wait and see how it plays out?
adj83
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Obama put him in the files in a favorable way maybe
No chance. That is a Hillary style move, photoshopping The Don into the pics/vids that Bill is in, as a way to provide cover for her dear hubby while Trump is President. She would have even saved it on her own personal email server, the crafty b*tch that she is
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kpopSuperstar
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I think what's going on here is similar to the UFO situation, in that the truth is likely not as dramatic as people want it to be, but if all of the data was made public, people would use it as ammunition against all sorts of things.
So some people in power just want it forgotten because it won't do anyone any good as the public simply can't handle the truth. People would claim everyone on the list is a pedo no matter if they are or not.
People want an Epstein list that rips the fabric on politics apart.
I asssume what Trump suddenly realizes, is that even though he ain't on the "abuser list" that Epsteins lawyer talked about, he might be on all sorts of other logs and journals that would just create all sorts of conspiracy theories around him and Epstein.
JayK47
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I agree. The New York Times is awful.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I really want to know, is Trump just asking the Bing AI image editor to make these things and releasing them himself, or is there some poor intern that whips these up and puts them out? I want a tell all book from that guy/gal!
Baemono
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Yeah, I read that in Obama's biography. People are like here for 40-50 years, only did that in their life and it's like "okay I'll vote for your bill to give money to homeless people but I want 3 of your shiny pokémon cards and your mug"
People/country's interests are nowhere near their goals
Baemono
Gold Member
What is he talking about ? His AI video ?
navii
My fantasy is that my girlfriend was actually a young high school girl.
News headlines next week: "Sorry, we couldn't find her"
Deputy attorney general to meet with Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell
Maxwell was convicted of recruiting and grooming multiple teenage girls for over a decade to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein.www.nbcnews.com
Pardon in exchange for a statement to make the heat go away incoming?
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
As long as congress is full of shills and bootlickers who care more about preserving their careers than what is best for the people then nothing will change. It is astonishing at how spineless some of these people are. Donny could be caught blowing up a civilian with a rocket launcher and you'd have the entire party saying it's a fake news witch hunt. There is literally nothing he could do to turn that party away from him. He's completely brought them all to heel like little sheep. It's so sad. Completely unserious government.
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Original question was: "Do you support the DOJ seeking an interview w/Ghislaine Maxwell?"
And there was a follow-up question regarding that topic (about the guy who would do the interview) before this clip.
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E-Cat
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*predator
SlimySnake
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Honestly, and I dont want this to come off as homophobic, but closeted gay guys like Mike Johnson and Lindsay Graham should be forced to come out of the closet. For the simple reason that they are likely being blackmailed because of this massive skeleton in their closet. Who knows how many foreign agencies have tapes of them hooking up with male hookers in DC because they definitely dont have openly gay relationships like Pete Buttigeg. A guy like him simply cannot be given this much power. he's literally third in line for the Presidency and is likely being blackmailed by everyone around him.
And it's not just them either. The grinder app literally crashes every time the republican convention hits a town. There are a lot of closeted republicans who are compromised, and even the worst agency in the world would be able to get dirt on them, let alone top tier ones like CIA, KGB, Mossad, etc
adj83
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I'm still cracking up at Prince Andrew low-key implying the photo was fake without ever outright saying it, then turning around and agreeing to a settlement amount he couldn't fucking afford.
The "I don't sweat" will never be trumped. Fun fact, this is actually Trump after being asked Epstein file questions
StreetsofBeige
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Makes sense. If the US president has a term limit you'd think others should too.
Even in business a lot of companies rotate people. A lot of companies will rotate sales people across different accounts and retailer head office buyers are often rotated different categories.
This is to prevent them getting too comfortable and chummy with each other scatching each others backs doing shady deals.
They also do this so the company doesn't have the same dude coasting at that role for 20 years getting lazy. They want fresh perspectives and not a guy trying to squeak by waiting for retirement.
So even businesses can figure that out.
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E-Cat
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6m29s: Epstein victim Maria Farmer claims Ivana Trump was Ghislaine Maxwell's best friend, and she'd ride in a car with them where they would occasionally get out of the car and get phone numbers of children.
13m12s: Trump hosted a party at Mar-a-Lago for young women where Jeffrey Epstein was the only other guest. The then-girlfriend of the Florida-based businessman who arranged the event later accused Trump of sexual misconduct on the night of the party (NYT).
15m07s: According to a 2020 Guardian investigation, Elite Model Management founder John Casablancas used competitions to engage and enable others to engage in relationships with young models, many of whom were underage. Trump was one of the judges in these competitions, evaluating scantily-clad girls as young as 14. Trump had his own modeling agency, Trump Model Management, that allegedly was a front for international sex trafficking, a kind of "open secret". Articles were written in mainstream publications, Trump shut down a Senate investigation during his 1st term.
19m02s: Trump, Epstein, Casablancas (Elite Model Management), and Brunel (Karin Models & MC2, with rape/trafficking accusations) were part of an organized, predatory network of pedophiles--using modeling contests, private dinners, and fake opportunities to prey on teenage girls. Casablancas openly dated teenage models, admitted to sleeping with girls as young as 14. Casablancas and Trump were close. They co-hosted private dinners where models were made to walk across tables so Trump could "stick his head under their skirts". Casablancas bragged about letting Trump date his models. Trump even sent Ivanka to him for modeling, at age 14. Brunel ran Karin Models & MC2 that Epstein funded, Brunel then supplied Epstein with underage girls, many from overseas. One victim said: "Jean-Luc (Brunel) handed me over to Epstein like I was a toy". Brunel died mysteriously in prison by suicide. Of the four men, the only one still alive today is Trump.
21m13s: Trump, Epstein, Casablancas and Brunel attended the same model scouting events, judged the same contests, hosted private dinners with girls as young as 13 & traded girls across state and national borders. At a 1991 "Look of the Year" dinner party. Trump and Casablancas sat side-by-side, watching 15-year-olds "compete". Elite Modeling, Trump Models, MC2, Karin Models -- different names, same function. Epstein Island was where the system delivered the girls.
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Idleyes
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The "I don't sweat" will never be trumped. Fun fact, this is actually Trump after being asked Epstein file questions
It's said that version of the photo was doctored to show sweat. Below is allegedly the original.
Edit: Honestly, I can't tell if he's dancing or dodging the police, that pose defies every known rhythm.
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E-Cat
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I don't know if it "trumps" it, but Trump's "I don't even doodle" (promptly debunked) is up there. Maybe he meant to say "diddle" (which would have also been a lie).
Baemono
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I still don't see the link with Obama
Mistake
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In the event that these things are true, a lot less people will care thanks to the russia and nyc scandals that were bunk. Probably best to push for a full file release and ghislaine hearing and let everything fall into place on its own
Punished Miku
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Shut down congress 2 weeks early.
Meeting with Ghislaine.
Ridiculous bro
Meeting with Ghislaine.
Ridiculous bro
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E-Cat
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Agreed, give Ghislaine full immunity and commute her sentence in exchange for being the Rosetta Stone on Epstein and testifying in front of Congress. But, alas, we know this is never going to happen -- something is always going to prevent it, be it "pesky bureaucracy" or her untimely death (RIP)...
More likely they will make a deal with her, whereby she exonerates Trump in exchange for a pardon.
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Idleyes
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Ok I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat now.
It's a trap. No immunity, no commute. I don't trust a damn thing a sex trafficker says. Just release all the files, cross-reference them with the victims' testimonies, and charge every last one of those creeps, even as accessories, the same way they hit people on the street every day. Ya heard? Don't fall for the setup where the only one left alive gets to serve time-lite just to hand the current administration (who clearly doesn't care and might even be covering it up) a carefully crafted nothing burger. They know exactly what kind of smoke she'll blow up our asses.
Tin foil hat off.
It's a trap. No immunity, no commute. I don't trust a damn thing a sex trafficker says. Just release all the files, cross-reference them with the victims' testimonies, and charge every last one of those creeps, even as accessories, the same way they hit people on the street every day. Ya heard? Don't fall for the setup where the only one left alive gets to serve time-lite just to hand the current administration (who clearly doesn't care and might even be covering it up) a carefully crafted nothing burger. They know exactly what kind of smoke she'll blow up our asses.
Tin foil hat off.
Idleyes
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You're telling me with all those surveillance cameras they found, Seized hard drives, and DVDs not a single one is of some shady shit? Please. I wasn't born yesterday. All the evidence has been destroyed or "lost" and now their last mission is to free the sex trafficking bitch and wash their hands of it all.
Edit: Ok maybe the tinfoil hat isn't off yet.
Edit: Ok maybe the tinfoil hat isn't off yet.
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12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
US House speaker shuts down chamber to block Epstein vote
The decision to bring forward the summer recess means Republican leaders can delay a politically fraught vote on the disclosures.
www.bbc.com
we're back on the front page of BBC
imagine defending this shit and protecting billionaire pedophiles. absolutely disgraceful.
I better never have to listen to pedocons talk about "protecting the children!" and LGBTQ reading books or grooming kids or whatever depraved shit they are projecting
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Donald mac Ronald
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How true is this btw.
RJMacready73
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Even if Trump is all over those files and implicated in child sexual abuse half the country would still worship him ffs
Punished Miku
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Donnie T clearly not doing well.
Nobody is biting...even if you throw the Hussein in there
Such a beautiful room.
JayK47
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See that is the thing. I do not think they would. Some would. But half? Come on. But you believe that. That is pretty messed up. And you are not the only one who thinks that in this thread. There is a huge difference between voting for someone and being a rabid fan boy. With the lack of information, some of you are just making shit up and are "certain" of what happened. Then throw half the country under the bus. Just stop with that tribal BS.
Baemono
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I mean he tried to overtake the country by refusing the outcome of the previous election, and people were still like « but Biden is old though, and Kamala has a weird laugh »
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
I do agree with you--Hence why so many right now are either staying silent, being completely dumbfounded or disillusioned by the mounting evidence they are being forced to make sense of. It will take time as ultimately a paradigm shift is required to break free from the chaos of these conflicting realities
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DeafTourette
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I don't think it has to do with tribalism...but seeing his MAGA fanbase excusing every loosely bad thing he's done or said... You even had people twisting themselves into pretzels when he made blanket statements about Muslims being evil (or whatever it was he said about Muslims) during his first term. We saw that in real time.
Yeah, there were people who voted for him who didn't think he'd mess up government like he has (tho some think he's making it better by making it harder on the working poor). But his fans make excuses for him left and right. He truly could shoot someone in the middle of 5th avenue and they'd love him for it. Some of them even rate him as high as Jesus. Those death threats in the 2020 election didn't happen for nothing.
StreetsofBeige
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Relax DF.
Political tribalism is on every front. Your left leaning democrat/liberal side is no different and no better.
You got entire channels dedicated to anti-Trump and anti-republican rhetoric 24/7 like CNN and MSNBC. So never mind every day people taking sides. You got entire TV networks doing the same all day. And similarly, Fox is 100% Trump lovers. Who cares. Just watch them for laughs. If you want more level headed news, watch for American news recaps on BBC. Just note that BBC is a pretty boring TV channel to watch compared to US channels which try to amp up on the flash and sizzle making it like Hollywood.
You can tell any channel with an agenda has lost the topic in discussion because they wont talk about it anymore. Months ago, when tariff talk was the big thing in town and stock markets dropped into the toilet it was all about Trump killing the economy with the worst trade policies ever. Fast forward a few months and stocks and indexes are basically at all time highs. So all the anti-tariff talk has disappeared even though Trump is still messing around with them with foreign countries on a daily basis with this rate and that rate.
As I said in a post above, people are a lot more concerned now with their own lives than what politicians do. That's why Trump won.
You are the type of person who cares more about image and what PR image an politician should have, vs what they do for the economy. Do you really think people care that much about Trump doing dumb things when there's blue collar jobs at stake and people are making cash in the stock market? I'm a few big stock market hits away from making enough to retire and coast for the rest of my life.
You'd probably do better in life if you focused on yourself, your career, and what's important in life. But you are the type who cares a lot what other people do and what other people have.
To be fair, a lot of the potential damage has been temporarily contained due to TACO. Specifically, the majority of tariffs were delayed or lowered due to bond market backlash.
In other words, the policy was partially reversed. This doesn't mean the original fears were wrong or misplaced. Some companies are still suffering. If the higher tariff figures come back, that'll be bad news all over again.
That said, right now the Epstein stuff is a much bigger domestic story than, say, interviewing U.S. citizens who are bitching on social media about paying higher taxes on their imports. In any event, people finally realizing that the administration was full of hot air and doesn't intend to reveal the truth about Epstein or may be hiding something is both predictable and sad.
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Dr.Guru of Peru
played the long game
I mean, it's pretty likely that the guy who openly ruminated on national TV about having sex with his daughter has had sexual encounters with underage girls. Not sure how this one slipped under the radar of the pizza gate crowd.
kevboard
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if it's all out in the open, you can't make up weird conspiracy theories... and where's the fun in that?
I don't like term limits, i think the voters must be entirely responsible and decisive, but this is the first practical credible argument in their favor i ever heard.
Re epstein, it seems that certain things, the nonprosecution of epstein's clients among them, are not affected in any way by election results.
adj83
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I am with you on that. From what I've seen, the larger accounts on X that are part of Trump's base (imo) are mostly critical of his recent handling. I believe Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly have been pretty critical of him from the mainstream side. If it becomes clear that he was trying to cover it up because he is actually complicit then that would easily kill his MAGA platform.
If he continues with his "its a hoax, forget about it, trust me bro, why are you so stupid" shenanigans then I'd bet money on it being responsible for losing the house and senate in the midterms. His base already believe the justice system is f*cked after 8 years of Russia and what they perceive as one sided lawfare. If they think he has given child abusers a pass then it'd be horrendously demoralising to them.
Idleyes
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Here we go again, Red Team vs. Blue Team. The Bloods and Crips must be watching in awe. Maybe, like them, y'all will eventually call temporary truces that last long enough to find some peace. But hey, that's the American way, division. No surprise there. What is surprising is that after nearly three centuries, we still cling to the fantasy that everyone can be forced to think the same. This balloon's gonna pop eventually. Let's just hope, like last time, we can put it back together.
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