There is no Epstein Client List
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Dev1lXYZ
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According to the doctor, I was pre diabetic and my thyroid gland was (sill is) shot. Well, he was right; because when I got the V it didn't go away, even with the vax that didn't work.
The doctor actually retired in 2022 as he told me he had been forced by the powers that be to recommend that vaccine. I don't know how many of his patients died, but judging from what he told me, it killed quite a few and he felt extremely guilty about what happened.
I have had the V twice since, but had access to anti virals that actually worked. The V is different now though than in round 1. It's easier to catch, but far weaker. I have residual heart damage from that, and made it my goal to get back in shape and get outside and exercise, which I did. Sunlight is very beneficial to good health; they tell you it's bad, but as long as you aren't baking yourself it's fine.
Tend to agree with you
However, both Ivana & ivanka were on the flight logs and in the black book
I think Tim Dillon has been insightful through the humour - Trump likes being alive and also likes his family being alive, no doubt there are some dodgy money deals Trump was involved in back in the 1990's etc but again if there was anything damning there the Dems would have used it during the years and years of lawfare..
Now as to Trumps actions across the time since he took office in January, I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt here and there, but there is little doubt something else is going on here..
And we must remember, he campaigned on that allegory for a decade "the snake" and I've said this for a long time, HE (Donald trump) is THE SNAKE of the story that was always going to turn and betray his followers..
I anticipated it being much later on, but all that he's signed off on and is enabling with the digital control system and palantir is the much bigger part of the problem and why this "golden future, this golden dawn coming to the world" was always the problem
Go look up the belief system of the original order of the golden dawn, it's metamorphosis from the Bavarian illuminate and that Trump was anointed into the order of the golden dawn at camelot castle hotel in England.. things make a little more sense then and his part to play as the pied piper leading his followers to their eventual enslavement and doom..
Just saying..
and of course everything I've written is all for entertainment purposes only and is pure opinion.. nudge nudge, wink wink
ProtoByte
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Ian Carroll?? For shame. This guy is a fucking mark and no one should listen to him about anything.
ChorizoPicozo
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E-Cat
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Kinda on-topic/adjacent, this debate is friggin insane. Open fascism/ethno-nationalism/racism (at least some are honest in stating their position). One guy doesn't mind being called a nazi, another one is totally fine with Israeli snipers shooting Palestinian children in the head -- interestingly, that was a bridge too far for most, even the nazi. They talk about Epstein, too, but mostly it's about immigration and the constitution.
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Unknown?
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Why would that have anything to do with Musk? Twitter had racist bot farms long before him. It was a cess pool since near its inception.
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Rentahamster
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I saw that too and it was fucking wild, but I didn't want to discuss it here for its heavily political nature. We're kinda living on the edge by staying on topic in this thread as is.
It's just kinda sad what happens when media literacy and education go down the toilet for these individuals.
Unknown?
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Noped out after the first minute. This looks staged at the most or just some clickbait sensationalism at the least.
I bet neither the interviewer or interviewee know what fascism actually is.
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E-Cat
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It's actually very well-researched on both sides (which is not to say there aren't some craaazy ideas in there). I do believe both sides truly believe what they preach. The "fascist" says he wants a Catholic authoritarian ruler and is anti-democracy. The interviewer is very well-read and articulate. It's kind of refreshing to hear such frank talk, though a bit frightening.
I'm definitely not gonna debate these points with anyone here, wanna respect Evilore's guidelines. I think it's fine as long as one just observes and doesn't speak out. There was nothing hyperbolic in the description of my post, just observation of the kinds of affiliations being expressed like I said.
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DeafTourette
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You're better than me for watching that. I'm already feeling anger bubbling inside at the description. Mehdi is cool customer for that!
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DeafTourette
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It's the first story ...
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MeisaMcCaffrey
This is a great analysis.
ResilientBanana
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It's hard to believe there are people throughout the world that are this opinionated and naive.
kevboard
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12Goblins
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It's actually not though. Every one of those premises is bad. Just pick your favorite or the one you think is the strongest I can probably refute it in one sentence
DeafTourette
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These are barely staged. What you see is what you get. These far right people are real and out there. And Mehdi Hassan is far more knowledgeable than those yahoos on what fascism is. I'm sure he knows.
Madflavor
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The past 10 years have completely sobered me up as an American. It's just been incredibly depressing.
53 years ago Nixon was impeached because of Watergate.
27 years ago Clinton was almost impeached for getting his dick sucked by Monica Lewinsky and lying about it.
Today, you see our President and Politicians get away with outrageous shit that absolutely dwarfs the kind of scandals we used to throw our leaders into the fire for years ago. The precedent has been set. You can just do whatever the fuck you want now. I am completely convinced that even if the Epstein Files released, Trump is on the list, and we find out he absolutely 100% fucked some underage girls, it wouldn't change a thing. People would get outraged, but he'd still be our President.
53 years ago Nixon was impeached because of Watergate.
27 years ago Clinton was almost impeached for getting his dick sucked by Monica Lewinsky and lying about it.
Today, you see our President and Politicians get away with outrageous shit that absolutely dwarfs the kind of scandals we used to throw our leaders into the fire for years ago. The precedent has been set. You can just do whatever the fuck you want now. I am completely convinced that even if the Epstein Files released, Trump is on the list, and we find out he absolutely 100% fucked some underage girls, it wouldn't change a thing. People would get outraged, but he'd still be our President.
DeafTourette
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Well said
Punished Miku
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Mostly a review of known info. Still a few bits I hadn't heard. Reviewing it has value because there's just so much info out already most people can't follow it all.
StreetsofBeige
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Maybe for a lot of people, they dont care about politicians' dubious personal lives and just care about the laws, economy, and political topics that will affect them directly. If modern day life is supposed to be so hard, stressful and costly now vs the old days where mom and dad could buy a big house on a normie job after high school, maybe people have more concerns in life than what Clinton or Trump does after work.
Trump makes fun of everyone and publicly calls women names and pinpointed Rosie ODonnell a pig when questioned about it for laughs. He still got elected.
The late Toronto mayor Rob Ford was an unattractive guy, got drunk in public and did drugs. Anytime he got confronted with it he'd deny it. But then later admit it was true. So the guy is a liar too. Every time the Toronto Sun did a cartoon about him it was something dubious and he drawn as a giant sweaty guy busting out of his always skintight suit. He won as mayor. And even when he went on leave due to cancer issues in re-election, he still won his ward. He won because people realized he was an every day joe kind of mayor who liked a beer and his big focus was on cutting costs. That was more important than what any other candidate represented and Ford's sketchy home life where it looks like he's a constant substance abuser.
Voters also do this to themselves if volatile politician PR and stupidity are that important. They could vote in more moderate and straight laced boring politicians, but for whatever reason a lot of people seem to just vote in whose the most popular. Most people probably barely even know what their views are and just vote by party block colour than actual topics. Heck, Arnold Schwarenegger won governor of CA 20 years ago. Unless I missed something, what awesome politics did Arnie know representing republicans before that? Who knows. He won.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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There's an urban legend that says that at night, a fat, orange man with varicose veins on his legs appears to you.
He has a sack of money,
where he asks you for money for nothing... And if you don't listen, he puts the children in the sack and buries them on his golf course.
And the men are sent with the crocodiles.
People: Ahhhhhhh
. And how do you scare him away?
Easy... Just repeat it 3 times... I have Epstein's list
... And he disappears. 
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Hay una leyenda urbana que dice que por la noche se te aparece un hombre gordo de color naranja con venas varicosas en las piernas.
Tiene un saco de dinero, donde te pide dinero a cambio de nada... Y si no le haces caso, mete a los niños en su saco y los entierra en su campo de golf.
Y los hombres son enviados con los cocodrilos.
Gente: Ahhhhhhh.
¿Y cómo lo ahuyentan?
Fácil.... Sólo tienes que repetirlo 3 veces.... Tengo la lista de Epstein.... Y desaparece.
He has a sack of money,
where he asks you for money for nothing... And if you don't listen, he puts the children in the sack and buries them on his golf course. And the men are sent with the crocodiles.
People: Ahhhhhhh
. And how do you scare him away? Easy... Just repeat it 3 times... I have Epstein's list
... And he disappears. ---------
Hay una leyenda urbana que dice que por la noche se te aparece un hombre gordo de color naranja con venas varicosas en las piernas.
Tiene un saco de dinero,
donde te pide dinero a cambio de nada... Y si no le haces caso, mete a los niños en su saco y los entierra en su campo de golf.Y los hombres son enviados con los cocodrilos.
Gente: Ahhhhhhh
.¿Y cómo lo ahuyentan?
Fácil.... Sólo tienes que repetirlo 3 veces.... Tengo la lista de Epstein
.... Y desaparece.
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ChorizoPicozo
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This is the most surprising thing of all.
Which doesn't make sense given the way he has reacted, not only that, he was the one pushing for this narrative, but against Clinton and Prince Andrew.
But in terms of actually bad info? The issue with the Epstein files is that they involve very powerful people; if Trump falls....everybody has to fall too...and that ain't gonna happen.
adj83
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This only explains some of the points I made and it relies on all Democrats and Republicans being unified in their reactions, with none of them going rogue. We had the stars align with MeToo climaxing at the same time as peak TDS and Epstein/Maxwell being arrested but there were no accusations, true or false, made by Epstein victims. It just doesn't add up.
We are missing some info to explain his recent behaviour. I lean towards it all being an intelligence blackmail operation (with Trump not being implicated) and releasing the info eliminates the leverage that they currently hold
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12Goblins
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Trump has already admitted his name is all over the files. Please stop deluding yourself
adj83
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Trump has confessed to being implicated in the sexual abuse of minors or Trump has confessed to him being in there as some kind of acquaintance, like I originally said?
Idleyes
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The victims have implicated a wide range of individuals beyond Epstein. Ghislaine Maxwell, who, aside from Epstein, is the only one actually convicted, has been named repeatedly. Others include Bill Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, Jean-Luc Brunel, Les Wexner, and more. The flight logs aren't suspicious in themselves, they're simply records of who flew where.
The question at this point seems to be whether officials are hiding behind the technicality that "association doesn't prove guilt" to avoid releasing the full files, or if they're actively shielding high-profile figures. Personally, I think it's the latter.
To me, there's nothing odd about how this is being handled, it's exactly what you'd expect when powerful names are on the line. Cartoonishly so at that. To me it looks like a poker game where Both political parties are bluffing with garbage hands and shit faces. It's up to each of us as individuals: do you peek over their shoulders to see what cards they're holding, or sit back and watch from the blind side?
Both the Biden and Trump administrations have either dragged their feet, deflected, or actively resisted transparency, despite overwhelming evidence that Epstein's operations implicated elites across multiple sectors. I know this because I'm looking directly at their cards, not ignoring them and pretending this is some kind of mysterious guessing game.
I mean FFS
1: Trump appointed William Barr, whose former law firm helped negotiate Epstein's 2008 plea deal, as Attorney General, and no major players were prosecuted during Trump's term.
2: Biden's DOJ has sealed documents and resisted efforts to unseal Epstein client lists, even after Maxwell's conviction.
4: Jean-Luc Brunel, accused of trafficking girls for Epstein, was arrested in France and died under suspicious circumstances in custody.
5: No new investigative commission or task force was formed under either administration, despite overwhelming public interest and clear evidence of a trafficking network that catered to elites.
Just to throw a few obvious clues/cards your way.
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DeafTourette
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Mate, the only way to make sense of Trump's behavior is to acknowledge that he's IN the files and is likely implicated in the more nefarious bits. Why else would he have Bondi flag any mention of himself and redact all the names, including of the perpetrators?
12Goblins
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Obama put him in the files in a favorable way maybe
Idleyes
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We've got billionaires like Glenn Dubin, who was named by Epstein's victims, funneling cash to both Democrats and Republicans like it's a two-for-one clearance sale. We've got Epstein himself dropping donations to people like Chuck Schumer, George H.W. Bush, and Bill Richardson like he's collecting stamps and some people still want to take either party for home team?
Idleyes
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Epstein died on August 10, 2019. Yet in 2023, Glenn Dubin donated $100,000 to Vivek Ramaswamy's American Exceptionalism PAC and another $6,600 directly to his campaign. Then in 2025, he tossed $2,100 to Andrew Cuomo's NYC mayoral run.
Meanwhile, in early January 2024, Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's most well-known accusers, testified under oath that Ghislaine Maxwell instructed her to "have sex with Glenn Dubin" and in fact said Dubin had sex with her while his pregnant wife slept in the next room. That testimony was part of the evidence that led to Maxwell's conviction. why would Vivek Ramaswamy's PAC and Cuomo;s campaign still accept his donation?
At this point, it's not a stretch to suggest that the people who could open investigations are being… let's say, discouraged.
On top of that it was known that Epstein was a registered sex offender who was jailed for 13 months on charges of procuring a minor for prostitution in 2009!!
Since 2000 Mutha fuckin 9! A registered Sex offender still managed to hang around with and send money to high profile individuals, and non of them saw this coming?
I gave Trump credit for distancing himself from Epstein around 2004 (for unrelated real estate reasons), well before the major scandals became public. But he seriously undermined that when he wished Ghislaine Maxwell well during her criminal case. What a fucking idiot.
Meanwhile, in early January 2024, Virginia Giuffre, one of Epstein's most well-known accusers, testified under oath that Ghislaine Maxwell instructed her to "have sex with Glenn Dubin" and in fact said Dubin had sex with her while his pregnant wife slept in the next room. That testimony was part of the evidence that led to Maxwell's conviction. why would Vivek Ramaswamy's PAC and Cuomo;s campaign still accept his donation?
At this point, it's not a stretch to suggest that the people who could open investigations are being… let's say, discouraged.
On top of that it was known that Epstein was a registered sex offender who was jailed for 13 months on charges of procuring a minor for prostitution in 2009!!
Since 2000 Mutha fuckin 9! A registered Sex offender still managed to hang around with and send money to high profile individuals, and non of them saw this coming?
I gave Trump credit for distancing himself from Epstein around 2004 (for unrelated real estate reasons), well before the major scandals became public. But he seriously undermined that when he wished Ghislaine Maxwell well during her criminal case. What a fucking idiot.
E-Cat
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JD Vance Visited the Murdochs Right Before the WSJ Dropped Trump’s Letter to Epstein
The vice president’s mysterious little trip to Montana might be more devious than we think.
www.esquire.com
GymWolf
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Obama doing his best to maintain the magical negro stereotype alive uh?Obama put him in the files in a favorable way maybe
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kpopSuperstar
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If you do the same with the far left you gonna get commie supporters and people who wanna kill CEOs just the same, it's more about who they choose on this show than any reflection of anything.
DragoonKain
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kpopSuperstar
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What do the flight logs mean in this context, that they flew to a party?
I would wager 95% of the people who flew there just went to a party.
Party and whoring is normal all over the world. Celebs have whores in every harbour.
The issue here is the underage girls and money being transfered.
If nothing else maybe we can FINALLY get some term limits for these life long parasites that get elected in their 30s and then NEVER leave because the machine is set up to buy them early and then keep them hooked.
Rotate out the humans every 8 years or so and it would be MUCH harder, and waaaaay more expensive, to manipulate the system.
Rotate out the humans every 8 years or so and it would be MUCH harder, and waaaaay more expensive, to manipulate the system.
Idleyes
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I'm overthinking this but...
Maybe Mike Johnson has had a change of heart after AIPAC told him, "Some of our affiliates are on that list bro!!"
Exhibit A: In 2023, Wexner donated $100,000 to AIPAC
Exhibit B: Ehud Barak has engaged with AIPAC publicly, though sometimes critically.
both are Donors to AIPAC who have been named in the Epstein case and AIPAC is Mike Johnson's largest contributor.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Did he also admit to his fake attack on him ear?
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Hero of Spielberg
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Deputy attorney general to meet with Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell
Maxwell was convicted of recruiting and grooming multiple teenage girls for over a decade to be sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein.
www.nbcnews.com
Pardon in exchange for a statement to make the heat go away incoming?
winjer
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12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
why would joe biden and the democrats do this ?? T_T
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DeafTourette
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Idleyes
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I do predict that if the files are released, it won't be all that useful in leading to arrests unless they somehow corroborate things said by victims prior to their release. If anything maybe some financial wrongdoing would get uncovered since Epstein probably did some sketchy laundering for some folks.
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ChorizoPicozo
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ChorizoPicozo
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i think the context is Epstein being an "asset" for a government/agency or something like that
The real issue is the powerful people involved in whatever the fuck epstein was doing. The sex aspect of this "conspiracy" is not really THE issue, otherwise this situation wouldn't be in this circumstances.
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