darrylgorn
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Sounds like just another Sunday.
There is no Epstein Client List
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Sounds like just another Sunday.
E-Cat
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This would be a bigger takedown of "The Man" / mega elites than anything we have ever seen. Which is why it's never getting released
darrylgorn
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Nah, nothing will take down the elite.
E-Cat
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Trump Held Talks on Pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell: Biographer
President Donald Trump weighed pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell for fear that she would spill secrets about his decade-long friendship with convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. After Maxwell, now 63, was arrested by the FBI in July 2020 for allegedly helping Epstein run his sex-trafficking...
Remember, also, that Trump heavily considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. During her incarceration, he said something bizarre like "I wish her well". Wtf, why would you wish someone like her well? It is clear Donny is deathly afraid of the lolita-peddling madam.
It's all academic, anyway, like I said.
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WhamBamThankYouMaam
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Guys, about those Russian video tapes again…
SpiceRacz
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Trump Held Talks on Pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell: Biographer
President Donald Trump weighed pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell for fear that she would spill secrets about his decade-long friendship with convicted child sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. After Maxwell, now 63, was arrested by the FBI in July 2020 for allegedly helping Epstein run his sex-trafficking...www.yahoo.com
Remember, also, that Trump heavily considered pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. During her incarceration, he said something bizarre like "I wish her well". Wtf, why would you wish someone like her well? It is clear Donny is deathly afraid of the lolita-peddling madam.
It's all academic, anyway, like I said.
E-Cat
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That's one thing, but to even consider a pardon is just weird.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Those tapes, according to Bondi, were of Epstein. He was arrested and awaiting trial. Maxwell was arrested and convicted.
What's so hard to understand about this?
Of course this segment of the dems will play into this crap. The psychosis around this topic is too politically gainful. One can only wonder though why 2 massively opposed administrations have come to the same conclusion. And before anyone says it: The idea that "half of Washington" or something like that is on the "list" is openly ridiculous on its face.
ResilientBanana
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There's a good chance that Epstein and Diddy have the same list.
E-Cat
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If only there were evidence of him being a pathological liar before he chose not to release the Epstein files
Toons
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I mean, this admin had every opportunity to make this a slam dunk win for them.
They've simply instead decided to torpedo any semblance of credibility they could have salvaged at every opportunity.
Whatever happens going forward is entirely on them. They highlighted this specific subject in the lead up to the election and were vocal about it plenty even after they won. To fumble thjs badly at this stage cannot be blamed on Dems or anyone else. They set themselves up for failure.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Because maybe they aren't as massively opposed as you think they are.
If the files contain blackmail, both administrations stand to benefit by using that as leverage to control both allies and enemies.
If the files contain material that incriminates members of the elite billionaire class, both administrations stand to benefit by keeping them safe and donating to their campaigns.
If the files contain material that incriminates members of both parties, both administrations would rather keep quiet than risk harming themselves in the collateral damage that would follow.
While they may seem massively opposed on the social and cultural wedge issues that they play to keep the masses distracted, they are both very much invested in the "it's a big club and you ain't in it" philosophy.
E-Cat
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ain't no fucking way...
dude...
Dude, the footage doesn't even show the entrance to Epstein's cell. It's totally irrelevant
Hot5pur
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It's kind of weird that Trump was going on about this list for the longest time and now he just wants everyone to stop thinking about it, usually he's fairly sensible with the kinds of messages he crafts for his audience.
Seems there was some major miscalculation and people either feel momentarily confused or maybe for some the veil has been finally lifted from their eyes? I have no idea, it always sucks when one finds out their view of things has been skewed or manipulated.
I remember when I was super deep in the_donald subreddit thinking I knew something no one else did, being part of some special community that knew the "truth". Looking back it seems like some very smart people knew exactly what to do to manipulate me. Perhaps this will be the end of manipulation for a lot of people.
Seems there was some major miscalculation and people either feel momentarily confused or maybe for some the veil has been finally lifted from their eyes? I have no idea, it always sucks when one finds out their view of things has been skewed or manipulated.
I remember when I was super deep in the_donald subreddit thinking I knew something no one else did, being part of some special community that knew the "truth". Looking back it seems like some very smart people knew exactly what to do to manipulate me. Perhaps this will be the end of manipulation for a lot of people.
Haint
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Like I told yall in a thread a while ago, it's incredibly likely a super majority of politicians, celebrities, high ranking executives, and wealthy elites the world over frequented this man's lolita brothels. Dumping a list and mass prosecutions would literally collapse entire industries, governments, and economies overnight. It would be like a nuclear war.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
???
The 'previous admin' didn't have people in higher up positions going on the same MSM saying they have the 'epstein client list' on their desk and are reviewing it and will release it.
Nor did they make public shows like inviting influencers to the white house and handing them dossiers of 'epstein files'
The vast majority of people do not give a shit if the file has DNC or RNC names on it, we just want the thing that was promised to us, if you're going to make such a big show about it and make it a prominent part of your campaign, then this kind of blow back should be the least bit surprising.
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You haven't established jack or shit. No one here has seen whatever constitutes the "Epstein List". I'm not defending Trump, just stating that if there was IRON CLAD evidence, particularly video evidence, it would have come out in the past FOUR YEARS when the current admin and the ENTIRE media went after Trump. A video of Trump plowing a child doesn't implicate Clinton, Hanks, Gates, Spielberg, or any one else. It ONLY implicates Trump 'cause he is the ONLY ONE in the video. So why haven't we seen it?
Simplest answer is that there is not such a video. Not of Trump, maybe of others though.
But most likely is any "Epstein's List" is circumstantial regarding specific acts of child sexual assault and it wouldn't hold up against Trump, nor anyone else. There is smoke, but no fire, from a LEGAL perspective, and sadly that is the ONLY perspective that matters. The US gov isn't in the business of slander or libel, which is EXACTLY what releasing a bunch of testimony to the general public would be.
Y'all gotta stop watching NCIS or SVU, the real world just doesn't work that way. Epstein choking to death, whether by his own hand or someone else, is probably the only justice those poor girls are gonna get.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Ugh...
Just say you have no idea about the facts of either case.
That is not a fact.
The consensus around the notion that Alex Acosta was told to back off Epstein because he was "for intelligence" stems solely from a Daily Beast article which sources the quote from an anonymous former Trump 1 admin official who claimed to have heard from the transition team that Acosta said as much.
When personally and directly asked by DOJ investigators, he said the following:
Key takeaways from the Justice Department review of Jeffrey Epstein sweetheart deal
One of the alleged victims called the report “another slap in the face.”
abcnews.com
Of course. The conspiracy is all-encompassing. Do you realize how ridiculous this is? Do you forget that the Biden DOJ launched a legal onslaught to neutralize the Trump campaign? That cable media engaged in a 24/7 hysterical crusade against Trump on all of his legal problems and political goals? That they're still doing it now??
If "they" have the capability to build such an all-encompassing and vast blackmail network in the first place, and are then able to sustain and grow it over multiple decades without flagging journalistic or prosecutorial apparatus disparate across time and space, "they" would also have the ability to selectively expose individuals who fell too far out of line. There's no inbetween. There wouldn't even be a point in creating such a network for leverage if the entire thing was to break down from a singular exposure.
They don't "seem" opposed, they are ridiculously opposed. It might not be personal between some of them as individuals, but there are absolutely serious ideological divides between many different political factions in Washington.
Carlin and the people that echo this point of his are ironically just as dedicated to a simplistic us vs. them worldview as they claim the "elites" are. Existential levels of cope.
Trump was never on a crusade about "the list" or the files. Pretty sure he never even brought up Epstein himself without first being asked. It's a segment of his admin, campaign staff and base that have spent years circulating theories about it.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
BREAKING: Ghislaine Maxwell found dead in her cell.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah .... this is heading down a pretty expected route.
Let's see if she can make it until revealing it.
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With the headline of "Post-menopausal women bleeds to death from massive period ickiness" no doubt
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This unsettling assassination scene in Michael Clayton comes to mind after so many of these recent deaths of whistleblowers. Boeing, OpenAI, Epstein's accuser, etc.
They make it look so easy:
They make it look so easy:
ResilientBanana
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Facts are they traffic people and fuck kids.
winjer
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She won't live long enough for that to happen.
This thing involves people so powerful and so immoral, that child rape and murder are inconsequential.
And the worst part is that a lot of the people on that list are on Congress and other political positions.
Donald mac Ronald
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I wonder if they have offered her immunity and a reduced sentence just to testify Infront of Congress that there is no list.
Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
Good.
Bert Big Balls
Gold Member
Jesus, that is fucking terrifying.
P:axMagellanic
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Glasnost moment?
Like the pak rape gangs over here this kind of thing obliterates all trust in the system.
We all knew it was bullshit and rotten... But to see it so flagrant is something else entirely.
Like the pak rape gangs over here this kind of thing obliterates all trust in the system.
We all knew it was bullshit and rotten... But to see it so flagrant is something else entirely.
Bojji
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That would be amazing but it won't happen...
That's what agencies do with inconvenient people. There are so many "suicides" in Russia...
USA is really not that much different.
E-Cat
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To me, this implies a darker truth that pedophilia is a crime of opportunity, not a predilection of the elites especially (in so far as occurrence vs general population); i.e., a lot of poor closet pedophiles around.
It's pretty different…
Bojji
Gold Member
They do it because they know they can get away with anything, it's about POWER. I doubt that half of them were born as pedophiles.
Forbidden fruit etc.
Same thing but for grown up women in Arab countries:
Revealed: What happens behind the glamour and glitz in Dubai's porta-potty parties
Dubai faces scrutiny over alleged "Porta-Potty" parties, where young women are reportedly lured with luxury gifts and cash into degrading sex acts. Influencer Jade received suspicious gifts, prompting warnings from followers about potential involvement in these setups.
Numbers are for sure much lower but 100% there are people killed like that by agencies. Every country has a dark side.
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Angry_Megalodon
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With big money comes corruption and with corruption comes all sorts of sexual depravations. It's a cause-effect thing and that's why people of this profile should be watched more closely than the average Joe.
So, for those who feel the urge to protect their favorite celebrity or politician, think that they would fuck your little daughter in front of you if given the chance, so don't hesitate to wish them burn.
So, for those who feel the urge to protect their favorite celebrity or politician, think that they would fuck your little daughter in front of you if given the chance, so don't hesitate to wish them burn.
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E-Cat
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You and I are pretty much in agreement, it's just semantics. I suspect you are right in that many in the "pedophile elites" are not into children primarily as a fetish, or maybe at all; but they've tried everything else, orgies with thicc latinas, eating sushi off of five geishas at a bathhouse, but whatever they do, it eventually grows old (no pun intended); so they're forced to escalate the perversions to the next level in order to feel that dopamine rush again.They do it because they know they can get away with anything, it's about POWER. I doubt that half of them were born as pedophiles.
Forbidden fruit etc.
Same thing but not for grown up women in Arab countries:
Revealed: What happens behind the glamour and glitz in Dubai's porta-potty parties
Dubai faces scrutiny over alleged "Porta-Potty" parties, where young women are reportedly lured with luxury gifts and cash into degrading sex acts. Influencer Jade received suspicious gifts, prompting warnings from followers about potential involvement in these setups.economictimes.indiatimes.com
But I am saying that it's possible that the predilection to escalate in this manner is divided evenly amongst the population, the elites are no more or less "evil" by base nature. But they have the power, and they have the opportunity. This is the human condition.
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Bojji
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100% agree.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Trump's own words...
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Mistake
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A testimony before congress? Great, now I know nothing is going to happen
You see it with celebs all the time. Think Hugh Grant or Eddie Murphy got caught with trans hookers as their FIRST time stepping out? Hell no, those guys plowed through every pussy variation IMAGINABLE and finally hit "chick with a dick" on their bingo card.
Sleeping with underage girls , particularly late adolescent ones, is probably more about flaunting the law and "reclaiming youth/taking innocence" since there isn't much physically different between a 16-17 year old and 18-19 (especially in todays hormone soaked era of caloric excess), except of course that gulf of legality. So why take the risk? It's all about the thrill and the power, and presumably, for Epstein, now having the blackmail material.
Just wait till AI generated material really hits. The amount of debauched degenerated heinous crap, freed from the need to have any humans present and consenting, is gonna explode!
On the plus side would it make the risk of actually making (or possessing) 'real' child porn or a snuff film too high and end up saving actual living humans? Or will it drive these dark fetishes even further and create an expanding market of "the real mccoy" that can hide behind AI created chaff? I think there will always be a demand for real, versus simulated, experiences and that cachet of an actual participatory event will only grow as our lives become increasingly artificial, manufactured, and, quite frankly, too comfortable to deliver any meaningful satisfaction.
If you're going to hype up one of these things, you can't simply pretend there was nothing there. It makes you look like either a complete liar or just a coward.
Maybe the files aren't nearly as bad as they thought or, alternatively, they're far worse than what anyone would have imagined. But you cannot hide this elephant forever.
Nothing they've said so far has amounted to a full and comprehensive explanation either way.
Personally, I'm not surprised because I couldn't possibly have a lower opinion of this guy though.
Maybe the files aren't nearly as bad as they thought or, alternatively, they're far worse than what anyone would have imagined. But you cannot hide this elephant forever.
Nothing they've said so far has amounted to a full and comprehensive explanation either way.
Personally, I'm not surprised because I couldn't possibly have a lower opinion of this guy though.
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WOOOOOOW, that's BALLSY of Elmo, given his own controversy......
Elmo puppeteer Kevin Clash cleared of sex charges, report says
Kevin Clash, puppeteer who voiced Elmo on "Sesame Street" for almost three decades, reportedly cleared of sexual abuse charges from three men
www.cbsnews.com
E-Cat
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That's assuming the fake AI cp won't be outlawed, which it almost certainly will.
12Goblins
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