There is no Epstein Client List

DragoonKain said:
Not remotely surprising to me, in fact I'd expect his name to be. He was friends with Epstein. As were many people. The question is what context is his name in there. That we won't know until we see them.
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I'm sure he's running his name and legacy into the ground because it only mentions his name in passing where he was found asking for directions on how to get away from all these teenage girls :pie_thinking:

But I do agree, a lot of people voted for him despite his well known history with Epstein, which is....interesting


What's funny is that Kash Patel apparently told government officials that Trumps name appeared in the files, and then shortly after went on the JRE saying there's nothing in the files, oops :messenger_confounded:
 
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Do people really believe that there is some magical list of high-profile sex trafficking customers, and on top of that it survived being handled by the deep state and two separate administrations backed by wealthy and powerful donors?

The previous administration did everything they possibly could to tell people not to vote for Trump. But when it came to this they just said 'nah let's not use that'.

You will never know the extent of it, or who was involved. Makes for a great topic they can cart out in future though whenever they need a distraction.
 
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^you're right man--In fact, are you guys really still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years, are people still talking about this guy--This creep? That's unbelievable!
 
ValiantInstance said:
Do people really believe that there is some magical list of high-profile sex trafficking customers, and on top of that it survived being handled by the deep state and two separate administrations backed by wealthy and powerful donors?

The previous administration did everything they possibly could to tell people not to vote for Trump. But when it came to this they just said 'nah let's not use that'.

You will never know the extent of it, or who was involved. Makes for a great topic they can cart out in future though whenever they need a distraction.
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Yeah, this is the distraction, not arrest Obama and all the other dumb shit they're throwing out there in a panic.
 
WSJ: "Bongino has told colleagues that his association with the administration's decision to keep the files private has eroded his credibility among the base of support that fueled his rise as a successful podcaster and media personality."
 
EviLore said:
WSJ: "Bongino has told colleagues that his association with the administration's decision to keep the files private has eroded his credibility among the base of support that fueled his rise as a successful podcaster and media personality."
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He's correct. He looks like a bootlicker if he goes along with this.
 
ValiantInstance said:
Do people really believe that there is some magical list of high-profile sex trafficking customers, and on top of that it survived being handled by the deep state and two separate administrations backed by wealthy and powerful donors?

The previous administration did everything they possibly could to tell people not to vote for Trump. But when it came to this they just said 'nah let's not use that'.

You will never know the extent of it, or who was involved. Makes for a great topic they can cart out in future though whenever they need a distraction.
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First I'd like to say my reply may read like it's hostile towards you but it's not about you.

People are pissed because Epstein was trafficking underage girls for years, not just for himself but for others. The FBI knew about him since at least 2009, he was a registered sex offender, and yet somehow he kept moving in elite circles. We're talking flight logs, confiscated DVDs, and a private island crawling with cameras, and all we get is crickets, except for his girlfriend taking the fall? Meanwhile, Prince Andrew pays off a settlement, drops his royal titles, and everyone just moves on like it's normal. So no, we're not sitting around waiting for a list like it's some Scooby-Doo head ass episode. We're pissed that girls were trafficked, everyone knows it happened, and yet no one else has been held accountable. That's the problem. Not some dumb ass list.

I can't speak for everyone, but from where I'm standing, everybody involved has serious questions to answer. U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta at the time gave Epstein that cushy, "big beautiful" deal that let him walk the first time, while the FBI stood and watched like a bunch of pussy ass cucks. Then proceeded to dropped the ball for years allowing him to keep abusing underage girls.

Meanwhile if I wrote how I really feel about all this shit the FBI would be at my crib on some ole..

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AJUMP23 said:
Nothing to see.

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He was 80 years old...
Dershowitz, being another one of Epstein's lawyers is alive and still talking. But what he says doesn't line up with the conspiracy theories, so his words are either getting ignored or twisted.

Punished Miku said:


Epstein's brother calls CNN and confirms he was very good friends with Trump.
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Wow, couldn't have seen that one coming.

Punished Miku said:
2 Live Crew member invited to Trump party in 99. Said it was Eyes Wide Shut, underage girls so he left
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Yeah, suuure.
Btw, these are claims (less conclusive/salacious than put here) from 2016 latest.
Kucklinski is a joke. You guys are falling for the bait.

EviLore said:
Source story:

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And... what? Of course his name is in the files.
 
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StreetsofBeige said:
You make it sound like the entire country is blind and will vote for him no matter what.
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Not the entire country, just his base. Did you know his rating went up after the Epstein scandal?

Several recent surveys last week showed Trump with a robust approval rating among Republicans, such as a CNN poll that pegged it at 88% and a Quinnipiac poll that gauged it at 90%.

Both of those polls marked an uptick for Trump's approval rating among his base, with a prior CNN poll pegging him at 86% and a prior Quinnipiac survey at 87%.
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nypost.com

Trump brags about ‘highest ever’ approval ratings from MAGA base, claims numbers ‘soared’ — despite Epstein backlash

President Trump crowed Sunday about his poll numbers within his GOP base, claiming that his approval has soared “significantly” despite the ongoing firestorm over notorious sex predator Jeffrey Eps…
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ValiantInstance said:
The previous administration did everything they possibly could to tell people not to vote for Trump. But when it came to this they just said 'nah let's not use that'.
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I mean he tried to launch a coup calling the elections rigged, causing deaths, was convicted of 34 felonies, somehow was still able to run for office, and people still voted for him. The previous administration was like "are you seriously going to vote for this candidate ? Seriously ?"

The Jeffrey Epstein stuff wouldn't change anything.
 
Baemono said:
I mean he tried to launch a coup calling the elections rigged, causing deaths, was convicted of 34 felonies, somehow was still able to run for office, and people still voted for him. The previous administration was like "are you seriously going to vote for this candidate ? Seriously ?"

The Jeffrey Epstein stuff wouldn't change anything.
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At this point, I don't think it would make a dent in his MAGA support if there was a video of him having sex with underage girls on Epstein Island. Sure, they would protest for a week. But eventually, they would find a way to blame Obama or something.
 
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EviLore said:
Are you representing him?
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I'm not even a Trump fan to any serious degree. That said, did you read the article? It's a bunch of admin gossip and repetitions of things we already know.

What precisely do you think in the files? That Trump's political opposition declined to release or play up before now? You've seen the actual things of substance I've posted on this subject. What do you actually think?
 
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LegendOfKage said:
I've known about this for a long while. Please watch this and tell me if you still feel the same certainty about this man and his case after doing so.

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I don't know what to think but he made a deal with the libertarian party to free him. Not that he thought he was innocent. Nothing Trump does is magnanimous.
 
I thought there was no list, now there is a list and Trump is in the list. weird timing. Especially after the DNI about the Russia stuff today.

I would like the release of the files and the prosecution of all the people that paid to rape kids. From Prince Andrew to Trump to anyone not dead. No one escapes. Bill Gates done, and the protected class destroyed.
 
DeafTourette said:
I don't know what to think but he made a deal with the libertarian party to free him. Not that he thought he was innocent. Nothing Trump does is magnanimous.
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Did you watch the video? I'm not posting that to defend trump as much as to suggest that there is a good argument to suggest that specific pardon was reasonable and justified.
 
LegendOfKage said:
Did you watch the video? I'm not posting that to defend trump as much as to suggest that there is a good argument to suggest that specific pardon was reasonable and justified.
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Yes, I watched the video. Maybe my mind is preoccupied with this gig I got for the remainder of the month but the actual substance of the STORY, sans Trump, is confusing to me and I don't know what to think about his innocence or guilt and DPR being him or not... That piece was dropped the further they got I to the story. It's interesting for sure tho!

Simply put, if he simply tried to make a recreational drug space on the dark web (both far leftists and libertarians have that in common when it comes to recreational drugs) then he isn't to blame for anything and shouldn't have been targeted... But at the same time, I can't say for sure if this is just the tip of the iceberg and the bad stuff is under the surface of the water.

You already know how I feel about Trump.
 
ValiantInstance said:
Do people really believe that there is some magical list of high-profile sex trafficking customers, and on top of that it survived being handled by the deep state and two separate administrations backed by wealthy and powerful donors?
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I don't believe there is some big clear "list," I pointed it out in this thread. Epstein wasn't some pimp to the rich, he was a guy mostly "Sex trafficking" for himself. But there were accusers who said he shared from time to time, one of whom recanted though.

Those were just the girls that were part of his case too, who knows WTF he did in the 80s/90s or any number of things nobody ever came forward about?

In the end Trump was his friend, did party with him, etc. and he's clearly rattled by something in those files. The thing is it takes a lot to bring charges to someone, so there could be evidence or testimony implicating any number of people who never were charged w/o the need for some big "deep state" coverup.
 
ValiantInstance said:
Do people really believe that there is some magical list of high-profile sex trafficking customers, and on top of that it survived being handled by the deep state and two separate administrations backed by wealthy and powerful donors?

The previous administration did everything they possibly could to tell people not to vote for Trump. But when it came to this they just said 'nah let's not use that'.

You will never know the extent of it, or who was involved. Makes for a great topic they can cart out in future though whenever they need a distraction.
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List is shorthand for all evidence collected by the FBI and DoJ in their extensive investigation. There actually is a list already out with Trump as John Doe 174. 173 people investigated before that, and a lot more after.

www.businessinsider.com

The newly unsealed Jeffrey Epstein documents have Donald Trump's name all over them. He had been secretly disguised as 'Doe 174.'

Former President Donald Trump may have fought to keep his name redacted in court documents before a judge ordered it unsealed.
www.businessinsider.com www.businessinsider.com
 
ProtoByte said:
I'm not even a Trump fan to any serious degree. That said, did you read the article? It's a bunch of admin gossip and repetitions of things we already know.

What precisely do you think in the files? That Trump's political opposition declined to release or play up before now? You've seen the actual things of substance I've posted on this subject. What do you actually think?
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Did you read the article? It reveals that Bondi and Kesh have known for some time that Trump's name is in the files. Soon after, Kesh is sent on a media tour to broadcast on JRE that there is nothing in the files, strange coincidence :pie_thinking:

You think WSJ is willing to sacrifice losing everything if they don't have the receipts? They are not even worth half of what they are being sued for. WSJ knows that either DJT will pull the lawsuit and confirm these stories as true, or the case goes to court and discovery takes place. Clearly News Corp is not standing down, and I think more stories are coming


Even Fox News is not buying this garbage distraction
www.foxnews.com

Americans should beware of Gabbard's 'dangerous distraction' with revisionist history of 2016 election

DNI Tulsi Gabbard's claims about the 2016 election conflate Russian 'hacking' with 'influence' operations, rewriting history while diverting attention from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Instead of coming to the defense of alleged pedophile billionaires, why not offer a plausible explanation as to why Trump is going through such great lengths to bury this, if his implication is innocuous like you seem to be suggesting,
 
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The biggest issue is this:

If this whole Epstein thing is nothing, then wouldn't the manly approach be to take it on, be straightforward, and just shut up people once and for all by revealing everything?

It's all the waving around and desperation that shows something is making powerful people sweat.

They know nothing is going to happen with all the reheated 2016 arguments, but it makes the base happy to play the same old songs again and hope nobody notices.
 
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ProtoByte said:
I'm not even a Trump fan to any serious degree. That said, did you read the article? It's a bunch of admin gossip and repetitions of things we already know.

What precisely do you think in the files? That Trump's political opposition declined to release or play up before now? You've seen the actual things of substance I've posted on this subject. What do you actually think?
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So true. i mean what's so weird about being friends with epstein anyways. Always good to have a voice of reason to put things into perspective.
 
DrFigs said:
So true. i mean what's so weird about being friends with epstein anyways. Always good to have a voice of reason to put things into perspective.
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What's so weird about being besties with the world's most notorious paedo and 'partying' with him for the better part of 2 decades … 🤔
 
Honest question. Did anyone not see this coming?

Everyone has known his history. How is any of this surprising? We all knew he was in the files. They knew each other for over a decade. We all knew they would lie and obfuscate when they saw he was in them.


If there is something actually incriminating in there about Trump and the underage stuff(island, girls, pageants). Would you be surprised? I wouldn't be.
 
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Vestal said:
Honest question. Did anyone not see this coming?

Everyone has known his history. How is any of this surprising? We all knew he was in the files. They knew each other for over a decade. We all knew they would lie and obfuscate when they saw he was in them.


If there is something actually incriminating in there about Trump and the underage stuff(island, girls, pageants). Would you be surprised? I wouldn't be.
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It's not about the surprise, but the "cinema"; not even the best screenplay can match the way things are unfolding.
 
Madonis said:
The biggest issue is this:

If this whole Epstein thing is nothing, then wouldn't the manly approach be to take it on, be straightforward, and just shut up people once and for all by revealing everything?

It's all the waving around and desperation that shows something is making powerful people sweat.

They know nothing is going to happen with all the reheated 2016 arguments, but it makes the base happy to play the same old songs again and hope nobody notices.
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There's probably a plot twist somewhere in this entire Epstein thing in addition to Trump, three-letter agencies, and a bunch of other famous people being implicated. For example.

It is funny that the "OBAMA!" play seems to be failing. It worked the first time (i.e., accusing Obama of being an illegitimate president/Kenyan without evidence), so I guess Trump thinks it's a good distraction strategy to stir up anti-black emotions. Maybe it will still work, but it's currently looking like a flop move.
 
12Goblins said:
Did you read the article? It reveals that Bondi and Kesh have known for some time that Trump's name is in the files. Soon after, Kesh is sent on a media tour to broadcast on JRE that there is nothing in the files, strange coincidence :pie_thinking:
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No one has answered my question because they don't want to look dumb.

The article also says the officials conclude there are many names hit with baseless hearsay.

If there was even a hint of Donald Trump being criminally implicated over the last 10 years and 4 federal admins and all the journalistic/prosecutorial investigations and litigation this issue has been processed through, it would. Have. Come. Out. Years ago. It's just that simple. Read between those lines, why don't you?

Not even Julie K. Brown, who wrote the expose that revealed Epstein's plea deal, gives any credence to this crap.

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That hasn't stopped Democrats — perhaps seeking to distract from President Biden's travails — from suggesting on social media that there's a disturbing connection between the former president and a sex predator. Some social media posts have claimed that Trump was mentioned in a draft indictment released last week, but that's false. Only 2006 grand jury testimony was released.

Julie K. Brown, the Miami Herald journalist whose diligent reporting forced a reopening of the Epstein case, has valiantly tried to point out the errors on X, but the misinformation keeps spreading. "I've come to believe that the American public won't pay for the truth," she lamented. "They would rather believe the lies they get for free on the internet."
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12Goblins said:
You think WSJ is willing to sacrifice losing everything if they don't have the receipts? They are not even worth half of what they are being sued for.
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No court is going to enforce the 10 billion or whatever Trump is after.

12Goblins said:
WSJ knows that either DJT will pull the lawsuit and confirm these stories as true,
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You're conflating stories. Similar to how people conflate one Epstein file with another as a monolith. Similar to how people conflate "the Files" with "The L I S T".

This story is obviously "true" in the sense that Trump's name will appear in Epstein related files. Trump claims the letter story is not true. That's what he's suing over.

12Goblins said:
or the case goes to court and discovery takes place. Clearly News Corp is not standing down, and I think more stories are coming
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There will definitely be more non-stories coming down the pipe, yes.

12Goblins said:
Even Fox News is not buying this garbage distraction
www.foxnews.com

Americans should beware of Gabbard's 'dangerous distraction' with revisionist history of 2016 election

DNI Tulsi Gabbard's claims about the 2016 election conflate Russian 'hacking' with 'influence' operations, rewriting history while diverting attention from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

Instead of coming to the defense of alleged pedophile billionaires, why not offer a plausible explanation as to why Trump is going through such great lengths to bury this, if his implication is innocuous like you seem to be suggesting,
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Gabbard's behavior indicates the problem with admin's like Trump's. The WSJ article talks about how Bongino's main concern is his credibility with his podcast audience after hyping them up on this shit. Gabbard already took a big L after painting a confused picture about Iran's nuclear activity, which Trump publicly embarrassed her about. Now she wants to retail Russiagate in the most silly way to save face with him? There is a lot to be said about the Steele Dossier crap, but the way she's gone about it is not productive.

But Fox News and Republicans at large are being pretty dumb. I do not remember this kind of mainstream media pressure being put on the Biden admin from any of the angles it's coming from now.

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ProtoByte said:
No one has answered my question because they don't want to look dumb.

The article also says the officials conclude there are many names hit with baseless hearsay.

If there was even a hint of Donald Trump being criminally implicated over the last 10 years and 4 federal admins and all the journalistic/prosecutorial investigations and litigation this issue has been processed through, it would. Have. Come. Out. Years ago. It's just that simple. Read between those lines, why don't you?

Not even Julie K. Brown, who wrote the expose that revealed Epstein's plea deal, gives any credence to this crap.

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No court is going to enforce the 10 billion or whatever Trump is after.


You're conflating stories. Similar to how people conflate one Epstein file with another as a monolith. Similar to how people conflate "the Files" with "The L I S T".

This story is obviously "true" in the sense that Trump's name will appear in Epstein related files. Trump claims the letter story is not true. That's what he's suing over.


There will definitely be more non-stories coming down the pipe, yes.


Gabbard's behavior indicates the problem with admin's like Trump's. The WSJ article talks about how Bongino's main concern is his credibility with his podcast audience after hyping them up on this shit. Gabbard already took a big L after painting a confused picture about Iran's nuclear activity, which Trump publicly embarrassed her about. Now she wants to retail Russiagate in the most silly way to save face with him? There is a lot to be said about the Steele Dossier crap, but the way she's gone about it is not productive.

But Fox News and Republicans at large are being pretty dumb. I do not remember this kind of mainstream media pressure being put on the Biden admin from any of the angles it's coming from now.

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I agree Gabbard is being used for this. Shame though, I think she can be good for the position she in.
 
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