E-Cat
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Trump severed ties with him after it came out he was a pedo, how could he have known? /sWhat's so weird about being besties with the world's most notorious paedo and 'partying' with him for the better part of 2 decades …
There is no Epstein Client List
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Paasei
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Don't forget having sex with a pornstar a few months after Melanie giving birth, paying hush money to Stormy, and still referring to God in multiple speeches
Maiden Voyage
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I've only seen 2 clips but apparently South Park laid into DJT last night.
Here's a NSFW clip from the show, including an AI rendition of him walking nude through the desert with a cameo from his talking penis. And no, I am not joking
Here's a NSFW clip from the show, including an AI rendition of him walking nude through the desert with a cameo from his talking penis. And no, I am not joking
Punished Miku
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Ghislaine's brother on Piers Morgan pretty much openly saying she can plead the 5th in front of congress for immunity or a pardon. Just openly stating the terms of a quid pro quo deal on TV. I just can't recall anything like this ever happening before. Congress on vacation for 6 weeks so the DoJ can work this out. By the way DoJ is entirely independent from the president, except that Trump put in his personal attorney to run it.
Thanks Obama.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
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Buggy Loop
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I can't believe they managed to get the real Donald J Trump to act in the show. He's pretty good, better performance than in Home Alone 2
Heimdall_Xtreme
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Overall, I find it amusing that those who voted refuse to leave their imaginary bubble of being scammed and having their money stolen.
I'd be embarrassed... Like the farce of the attack on the little ear.
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Rentahamster
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DeafTourette
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Venom Snake
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You have to have a negative IQ to say something like that publicly, it's like admitting to bribing a criminal.
This is simply grotesque.
Punished Miku
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The plan is to let the Vice President of Pedo International free, Ghislaine, to protect the CEO of Pedo International, Trump. Then run in the midterms on telling people that Dems might hold them accountable, so vote Republican to make sure they remain completely above the law while fucking kids.
Republicans plan to use the threat of impeachment as a key midterm issue
Democratic leaders, however, say they see impeachment as a distraction from bread-and-butter issues.
www.nbcnews.com
Let's see if the voters go for it I guess.
This thread is like sitting poolside as psyops work their magic on the 2 extreme groups.
The notion that DOZENS and DOZENS of agents, lawyers, officials, politicians, and judges sifted through reams of evidence that Trump was plowing through kids and then ALL OF THEM sat on it through 4 years of Biden, Trump skating through all other legal challenges, becoming the R nom, and then clinching the vote, but ONLY NOW this mountain of evidence that Trump was the mastermind behind it all is gonna come out....wow it's fascinating to see.
I hope to live long enough to see an actual facts based summary of this whole thing that can only come with some time for objectivity, proper release of facts, deathbed confessions, and all the rest.
The notion that DOZENS and DOZENS of agents, lawyers, officials, politicians, and judges sifted through reams of evidence that Trump was plowing through kids and then ALL OF THEM sat on it through 4 years of Biden, Trump skating through all other legal challenges, becoming the R nom, and then clinching the vote, but ONLY NOW this mountain of evidence that Trump was the mastermind behind it all is gonna come out....wow it's fascinating to see.
I hope to live long enough to see an actual facts based summary of this whole thing that can only come with some time for objectivity, proper release of facts, deathbed confessions, and all the rest.
DragoonKain
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They should absolutely not reduce Maxwell's sentence. She molested and sexually assaulted kids. She's a monster. Do not make a deal with the devil.
El Muerto
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Epstein believed Trump was the 'rat' who snitched on him to FBI: biographer
The late financier and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein believed Donald Trump was the “rat” who informed on him to the FBI, leading to his 2006 arrest and sentencing for offenses involving underage girls, the Trump biographer Michael Wolff said.“Trump was aware of what was going on in Epstein's...
www.rawstory.com
True that.
Just read this and see HOW she got access to these teen girls. It shows the vulnerabilities of teens (plying them with shopping and trips) as well as the notable absence of FATHERS to put a stop to it.
As a dad with a daughter, this case summary exposes the playbook used by SO MANY of these predators to get access and apply leverage on girls. Gotta watch out!
E-Cat
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Not if your base has a negative IQ
12Goblins
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Cool man, then join us in pushing for transparency and complete release of the files to vindicate yourself instead of twisting yourself up in a pretzel trying to downplay the shit they are clearly trying so hard to bury
DragoonKain
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Even if it's worst case scenario for Donny and he's incriminated in the files doing stuff with underage girls, I doubt anything would even happen to him. Especially if the evidence is just accounts and testimony. It would be very hard to get any kind of an indictment just based on that alone. And Trump has loyalists and cronies in all branches of the criminal justice system. I have my doubts they'd pursue anything with any kind of fervor. Oh, well maybe a portion of his MAGA base turns on him. What does he care? He's in his second term. Not like he will lose his chance at getting elected. What it would do is severely hurt his reputation, which I'm sure would be pretty damaging to his ego, but the man would still have the White House at the end of the day.
I mean the guy had plenty of other instances of illegal, immoral, predatory, and untoward behavior and people still voted for the guy. As far as I'm concerned, this is just another day at the office.
I mean the guy had plenty of other instances of illegal, immoral, predatory, and untoward behavior and people still voted for the guy. As far as I'm concerned, this is just another day at the office.
I've always been for the release and prosecution of anyone involved in the sex trafficking of minors.
My point is that if Trump was involved with the antics on epstein island it would 100000% have been released. The rhetoric against Trump reached such insane heights that there is no way that 'trump card' (heh heh) wouldn't have been played once he won the nomination. Hell, they programmed guys to try to assassinate him because they had nothing else left in the tank.
But get a bunch of rich folk, business guys, celebs, academics, and politicians and toss 'em all in the clink for kiddie diddling, go right ahead. I just don't think Trump would be one of them.
E-Cat
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You are 100000% underestimating the deterrence of mutually assured destruction. It's not AT ALL a foregone conclusion.
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DeafTourette
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Trump isn't the only name in the files... According to reports, he's in the files... But he likely isn't the only name. If you name Trump, you'll have to name them all.
IMO, that last sentence
E-Cat
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It's possible there exists a third party in possession of the files, that will release all the files if either the Dems or GOP release a redacted list
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Folks keep parroting that, but it is CLEARLY not true, given that they went through evidence, tried, and convicted Ghislaine WITHOUT naming a SINGLE PERSON, other than Epstein, that she supplied girls to. So the notion that they couldn't excise out just the stuff relating to Trump and release it (don't even need to take him to trial, really, just release the info and weather the lawsuits but he'd be cooked) doesn't hold water. The 'evidence' whatever it is, isn't in an "all or nothing" briefcase.
It's part of the psyop to say that "they can't use it to get Trump without getting everyone" because it is a lame defense for why the democrats sat on it for 4 years instead of jailing "LITERAL HITLER". But the reality (most likely) is that none if it hits Trump so that is why nothing happened.
E-Cat
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If there isn't something incriminating about Trump in the files, why is he
i. throwing an absolute hissy fit and obfuscating?
ii. suddenly calling the files a hoax created by the Democrats & threatening to arrest Obama?
iii. not releasing the files?
iv. disowning MAGA who want him to release the files?
v. being told by his own AG that he is in the files?
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The files are likely just a giant mass of data about Epsteins activities, both 'legal' and nefarious. Trump obviously is in there because he and Epstein associated FOR YEARS. As did many many many other folks who may not have fucked a teen but probably wouldn't want their name even remotely connected to Epstein. Epstein was a massive socialite, he met and partied with EVERYONE.
So to release any kind of "list" (aka document dump), would implicate any name in there because of course the shitty excuse for journalism we have today would do nothing but a name search of the documents to say "Hey, Trump is mentioned 550 times, Tom Hanks is mentioned 100 times, Hillary Clinton is mentioned 223 times" with no actual context of WHY they were mentioned. And then the landslide of lawsuits against the government would employ every lawyer on both coasts for the next decade.
E-Cat
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Trump would have no problem about creating that kind of mayhem for his adversaries if he thought he could personally get off scot-free. But he doesn't, so he won't.
If you think they were mere "socialite acquaintances", you have not been paying attention at all. They were best friends for 10 years, Trump threw a party at Mar-a-Lago with calendar girls where Epstein was the sole guest, Epstein attended his wedding, they were playing a game where they were blackmailing Trump's friends to let him sleep with their wives, etc. etc. I'm not gonna go over it all, it's in this thread for all to see.
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Smiggs
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And what if a ton of high ranking Dem politicians are on it? Or the massive donors that contribute to both parties are implicated? Why would the Dems open a Pandora's box to try and get rid of Trump, while destroying their own party as well?
You can keep telling yourself that he has nothing bad in the files, but the way he's been acting lately are the actions of a man that is terrified. The way he forced a lot of right wing podcasters in line basically over night should be a massive red flag to anyone capable of critical thinking.
Sure, Trump is a sex pest, but I don't think he was involved with underaged girls to that degree. Epstein obviously was (as proven in court). I'm sure there are all sorts of embarrassing things in those files but actually illegal? Eh, they would have been leaked.
Trump is already crushing his opponents. Who does he need to publicly shame and/or imprison? The Hunter biden laptop story already shows how the media can quash anything embarrassing/illegal for "their side". So baring something that approaches a conviction in a court of law (which I don't think is in there because the victims have refused to testify) all that "Epstein files" is more of a political boogeyman than actual, actionable evidence.
But we'll see, stuff seems to be coming to a head and maybe we'll get stuff released. Who knows, maybe it will only include the democrat side, both sides, everyone, or some rando nobody scapegoats.
Sinozen
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Wouldn't surprise me if Donald Trump was the one that put the hit on Epstein at this point. He was president when it happened. The fact that he'd throw his whole political movement down the drain for this shows he's not innocent. He's on the list himself and/or covering for others which is just as bad. This is the worst coverup I have ever witnessed. He deserves to be impeached for it.
And its sad to see people who supported Trump play mental gymnastics. Look at the guys history. Is it outside the realm of possibility he fucked someone under 18? Of course not. Him releasing the client list was a way to absolve himself, but the fact he won't release it is extremely telling.
Even if it was a Democrat scheme (
) well then release it so people can see themselves. He ran on releasing it. It's just another unfulfilled promise.
I hope that this experience and prior 4 years of Biden show people on both sides of the political spectrum that the government just doesn't work for you. The debt is a red flag that nobody wants to address because they don't see it as their problem. The country can tank and they'll go off to their bunkers to let the world burn.
And its sad to see people who supported Trump play mental gymnastics. Look at the guys history. Is it outside the realm of possibility he fucked someone under 18? Of course not. Him releasing the client list was a way to absolve himself, but the fact he won't release it is extremely telling.
Even if it was a Democrat scheme (
) well then release it so people can see themselves. He ran on releasing it. It's just another unfulfilled promise.I hope that this experience and prior 4 years of Biden show people on both sides of the political spectrum that the government just doesn't work for you. The debt is a red flag that nobody wants to address because they don't see it as their problem. The country can tank and they'll go off to their bunkers to let the world burn.
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12Goblins
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Yes, It's possible Trump is not implicated in the nefarious stuff going on Epstein island. If he's not, it's hard to explain all the floundering that's going on, but regardless, there could be other explanations
The point is that the only way we are going to see the list is by calling Trump a pedophile, putting the ball in his court, and forcing him to prove us otherwise. Wether or not Trump is an actual pedo is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned, we just want to see the content of files
People trying to downplay or pointing to weak smoke screens like Hussein Treason Allegations can be seen as defending child sex trafficking because that's that they want in order to bury this story
Because that's what they have ALREADY DONE. The DNC is in shambles after Biden and Harris and their efforts to stop Trump. Best thing for them, really, is to just let Trump ride out the next 3 years, stop trying to sue him, and let him sail off and die at Mar Lago. As we can see, Trump is his own worst enemy if folks stop rising to the bait and just let him collapse on his own.
These files are not sealed away where no one can access them. They have been combed through by DOZENS of people. Hell, most of it was probably used against Ghislaine and so was seen by state officials, lawyers, agents as well as federal. So now we have New York City hardcore lifelong democrats with access it and...surprise...nothing hard about Trump comes out there either. Everything in the trial says Epstein did this stuff for himself. So either that is true OR all the people who ran through it collectively and UNANIMOUSLY decided to not mention anyone else. And if you think that could happen if Trump was in there.....that's just fucking insane!
E-Cat
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It's the total about-face and Trump's hysterical reaction that are the telltale signs that something is off. Trump is his own worst enemy here, it's Streisand effect all up in this bitch. It's like a dog trying to hide the fact that it ate a cake, and doing a very bad job of it, wagging its tail and burying its little face in a pillow. Noticing that this is not normal behavior requires knowledge of human nature and a theory of mind, not everyone seems to possess those...
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Baemono
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I mean investigations are supposed to be secret/classified information. He's the one saying "I'm gonna declassify Kennedy, MLK and Epstein documents" during his campaign. His 180° on Epstein doesn't make any sense, and the fact that he pushes for an "Obama witchhunt" as he calls it instead is a bit weird.
True, for sure. Whatever is happening in the White House would be HILARIOUS if it weren't the entire free world on the line. I had hoped Vance and co could hold him down but guess not.
Secret/classified shit gets leaked all the time. And there is a very good case that if a compromised pedophile was running for president, it is the MORAL OBLIGATION of folks "in the know" to leak the info regardless of legality.
But......nothing. No snippets of video, testimonies of 15 year old girls, diary entries, whatever. It's all smoke, and thin smoke for the most part, and then allegations pushed nonstop. Classic psyop stuff. Trumps inability to just shut up is only fueling it.
E-Cat
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Vance is licking his lips as we speak, wanting that presidency for himself. He did visit Rupert Murdoch just before the WSJ article came out...
I just can't believe what an emotional bitch Trump is being about this inconsequential list that first existed, then didn't, now supposedly exists again. Disowning MAGA who want to see the files? What's that all about? Something seems to be going on.
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DrFigs
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It's hard to believe that there can be "over a thousand" victims according to Bondi, and they're all just victim to the one guy and no one else was involved.
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12Goblins
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Smiggs
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I have a feeling Vance and some others are hoping Trump hangs himself with all of this stuff. He did refer to Trump as possibly America's Hitler, and himself as a never trumper years ago.
YCoCg
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Dems didn't speak about it because people in their team is in the list, the reason Trump is getting pushback is because he campaigned on this and then swerved when it was time to step up.
I agree. So that means it MUST BE POSSIBLE to cull out other perps because clearly someone, likely a fairly large group of someones, had to go through the evidence, the defense team surely had access to most of the raw evidence, and all that. LOTS and LOTS of folks who all could easily release any juicy names and Trump would be the most juicy.
Baemono
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Come on now
Are you denying the entire Snowden, Ellsberg, Assange, Manning leaks? Do you really think some mid-level legal aide, tasked with sifting documents to prosecute Ghislaine and coming across a series of interviews with girls who say they fucked trump, interviews from house staff who say trump was there and fucked girls, video of trump chasing down girls, whatever, that they would UNANIMOUSLY sit on it? No way. Epsteins activities and victims are well known by everyone with access to these documents, enough to get Ghislaine in jail for decades and Epstein stuck awaiting trial. It's not like just one super-secretive guy collected all the evidence and then prepared a digest for the prosecution and defense, carefully scrubbed of EVERYONE else. It took entire teams of agents to collect it in the first place, entire teams of legal analysts and review, entire teams of judges to authorize the warrants, etc. Lots and lots of folks beyond high level CIA or whatever conspiracy folks are trying to spin.
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