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[Toons]

Freudian slip?

Ted cruz never fails to make an embarrassment of himself

 

[Toons]

Easy. Statue of all the cops holding down floyd. Plaque says "We need justice".

Justice for whom? You can even adjust the sympathies of the viewer by choosing what emotion to have the faces show.

This ain't a hard dog to walk, man. All sorts of events can be encapsulated in a way that both mocks and inspires.

The only people that could be claiming that extrajudicial killing of a guy without a trial is "justice" can't claim to seek justice at all. Theres no question whos being denied justice in such a statue.

Justice outside of a court, or without the decision of a committee, isnt true justice. Its vigilantism at best, and in Floyd's case, murder.

 

[jason10mm]

The only people that could be claiming that extrajudicial killing of a guy without a trial is "justice" can't claim to seek justice at all. Theres no question whos being denied justice in such a statue.

Justice outside of a court, or without the decision of a committee, isnt true justice. Its vigilantism at best, and in Floyd's case, murder.

Or it took four guys to restrain a drugged up noncompliant man with a history of violence who died DURING (not necessarily because of) use of a technique taught to the cops as part of their department policy. Those guys were punished for enforcing the system on a guy that happened to be of a specific color to engender the outrage.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Havent kept up.

So still no master list of names?

 

[Punished Miku]

Havent kept up.

So still no master list of names?

Nope. A democrat won a spot recently and they've been delaying her certification because it would mean the house can vote on it and pass it. Marjorie Taylor Green publicly has been saying she's not suicidal and intends to vote to release it. They're still blocking it.

They're going to blow up the fucking servers that are holding these files before they release them at this rate.

 

[Toons]

Or it took four guys to restrain a drugged up noncompliant man with a history of violence who died DURING

Youre still fighting this pointless battle in defense of a convicted murderer.

The drugged up guy is somehow stronger than 4 grown adult men but also died pretty much as soon as they restrain him?

Chauvin is a killer, and deliberately caused a man's death by compressing his neck for almost 9 minutes amidst exasperated claims of his victim being unable to breathe. Without a trial. Without a jury. Without a judgment. There is no other side to this discussion to be had, just denial of what we watched happen. Even if Floyd didn't die, hed STILL be guilty of attempted murder.

 

[Toons]

Nope. A democrat won a spot recently and they've been delaying her certification because it would mean the house can vote on it and pass it. Marjorie Taylor Green publicly has been saying she's not suicidal and intends to vote to release it. They're still blocking it.

They're going to blow up the fucking servers that are holding these files before they release them at this rate.

This is the most transparent and in your face cover up in US history. How these people still have ardent supporters should speak to how far we've fallen

 

[jason10mm]

Youre still fighting this pointless battle in defense of a convicted murderer.

The drugged up guy is somehow stronger than 4 grown adult men but also died pretty much as soon as they restrain him?

Chauvin is a killer, and deliberately caused a man's death by compresinf his next for almost 9 minutes amidst exasperated claims of him being unable to breath. Without a trial. Without a jury. Without a judgment. There is no other side to this discussion to be had, just denial of what we watched happen. Even if Floyd didn't die, hed STILL be guilty of attempted murder.

I'm not arguing "truth" one way or the other, just that I could make a statue showing the event, PEOPLE with biases either way can use it, and depending on how I tweak the statue, I can also bias observers. Showing Trump and Epstein skipping hand in hand implies a level of comradery that may have existed between them at one point, but certainly doesn't accurately represent how we THINK their relationship was for the last couple of DECADES. So just like a statue of terrified cops kneeling on the bull neck of a ferocious giant man, or menacing men crushing an exhausted man gasping for breath, the statue triggers an emotional response based on your biases, in ways photos on a piece of paper does not, because we have been conditioned to give weight to statues through millennia of their use (aka they are an effective propaganda tool).

 

[Baemono]

Havent kept up.

So still no master list of names?

Basically

 

[Toons]

I'm not arguing "truth" one way or the other, just that I could make a statue showing the event, PEOPLE with biases either way can use it, and depending on how I tweak the statue, I can also bias observers. Showing Trump and Epstein skipping hand in hand implies a level of comradery that may have existed between them at one point, but certainly doesn't accurately represent how we THINK their relationship was for the last couple of DECADES. So just like a statue of terrified cops kneeling on the bull neck of a ferocious giant man, or menacing men crushing an exhausted man gasping for breath, the statue triggers an emotional response based on your biases, in ways photos on a piece of paper does not, because we have been conditioned to give weight to statues through millennia of their use (aka they are an effective propaganda tool).

You mean watching a guy get killed triggers an emotional response? O sure hope it still does.

People also tend to have emotional responses when someone is closely connected and friends with a pedophile. Again. Something im all for.

We know epstein was a pedophile. We know he and Trump were friends. We know that Trump has lied to us all several times on the matter of releasing any and all information the government possesses on epsteins clients; and we know he has pressured multiple constituents to do so in his stead which hated directly to his parry blocking resolutions to release these files. These are not opinions this is stuff we've wTxye happen in real time.

At what point is an emotional response maybe warranted?

 

[adamsapple]

Havent kept up.

So still no master list of names?

Not on Kash Patel's watch, no.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Not on Kash Patel's watch, no.

Not surprised. I watched some of the Joe Rogan video on YT with him on it. Guy sounds like a worm thinking he's the greatest guy ever cracking down on every conspiracy ever.

 

[Hot5pur]

I dunno. For all you MAGA folks, what do you find appealing about Trump and his handling of the Epstein files? Like deep down you know he lied about the election, he lied about Ukraine, he is lying about Epstein...guy lies almost as readily as he breathes. Why do you want to be a part of his fanclub? Is watching "the libs" suffer that satisfying? Is seeing your country erode just so "your side" wins worth it that much? Maybe deep down you just want everyone else to suffer, like those girls who were passed around on Epstein island.

I don't get it man. Why do people feel the need to follow, to not think for themselves, to be beholden to some powerful figure be it a demagogue or a God. Does it give you comfort? Safety? A sense of belonging? Does it make up for not having a loving family? Maybe it's a way to be angry, to see others hurt and feel better. Maybe watching someone with a lot of power hurt others make you feel powerful because you support him. I just don't get the psyche, almost like it's completely devoid of any empathy or a shared sense of human compassion.

Strange times we live in.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I dunno. For all you MAGA folks, what do you find appealing about Trump and his handling of the Epstein files? Like deep down you know he lied about the election, he lied about Ukraine, he is lying about Epstein...guy lies almost as readily as he breathes. Why do you want to be a part of his fanclub? Is watching "the libs" suffer that satisfying? Is seeing your country erode just so "your side" wins worth it that much? Maybe deep down you just want everyone else to suffer, like those girls who were passed around on Epstein island.

I don't get it man. Why do people feel the need to follow, to not think for themselves, to be beholden to some powerful figure be it a demagogue or a God. Does it give you comfort? Safety? A sense of belonging? Does it make up for not having a loving family? Maybe it's a way to be angry, to see others hurt and feel better. Maybe watching someone with a lot of power hurt others make you feel powerful because you support him. I just don't get the psyche, almost like it's completely devoid of any empathy or a shared sense of human compassion.

Strange times we live in.

How are Dems better than Trump? Biden is a zombie, Harris is a cackling witch with no substance and the only things they seemed to care about are abortion rights and transgender rules.

Beating Trump is actually easy in theory, but hard to pull off. He's a very business focused guy where a lot of his hot topics involve money, jobs, economy and immigration laws (which also relates to giving them social assistance which is more about money off taxpayers backs).

All anyone has to do is talk boring stuff like jobs and economy and come up with better ideas than his supposedly iron fisted ideas. Problem is nobody on the left even tries or can come up with better ones.

Trump actually has a disadvantage right away with voters because a lot of people vote based on likeability, not policies. And Trump is a predicatbly abrasive guy who will turn off lots of people right away. And friendly Dems with that advantage still couldnt beat him.

 

[Vestal]

How are Dems better than Trump? Biden is a zombie, Harris is a cackling witch with no substance and the only things they seemed to care about are abortion rights and transgender rules.

Beating Trump is actually easy in theory, but hard to pull off. He's a very business focused guy where a lot of his hot topics involve money, jobs, economy and immigration laws (which also relates to giving them social assistance which is more about money off taxpayers backs).

All anyone has to do is talk boring stuff like jobs and economy and come up with better ideas than his supposedly iron fisted ideas. Problem is nobody on the left even tries or can come up with better ones.

Trump actually has a disadvantage right away with voters because a lot of people vote based on likeability, not policies. And Trump is a predicatbly abrasive guy who will turn off lots of people right away. And friendly Dems with that advantage still couldnt beat him.

Honestly, I don't understand how anyone could listen to him talk yesterday in front of our generals and not want to crawl up in a ball in shame. That was the cringiest of cringe. Along with it being dangerous AF.

Not going to sit here and try to define the current Trump supporter. That is a 3rd rail I am not even looking at.

But no, beating Trump is not easy at all given the political climate. He has the entire party structure, the executive and congress all at his command. Meanwhile the Dems have no clear leader or message to stand on.


edit: There was no beating Trump after Butler last year.