Lukaku's First Touch
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It's a movie, not real life sorry.
In the end the killer will be converted and updates his twitter bio with his pronouns and gets a resetera mod job.
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They/Them : Slasher Film starring Kevin Bacon and written by John Logan
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In the end the killer will be converted and updates his twitter bio with his pronouns and gets a resetera mod job.
Oh come now, Virtually every slasher film since the dawn of celluloid has featured the slaughter of a cishet couple engaged in heterosexual sex, does this mean that ANY fan of the slasher genre wishes death on cishet people? GTF outa here with dat hot take!
Slasher films as a stand in for punishing "bad morals" is practically the purpose of the genre! So shifting that over to a LGBT crowd is finally letting them in to play with the rest of us and yeah, sometimes you gotta choke on a machete, eat a chainsaw, get squished by a steamroller, be hung by barbed wire, or be slowly dismembered by a cannibalistic psychopath....
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Lol, what kind of upside-down reading of the world is this nonsense. There's no "conversion" involved if you are working to dispel the mental disease of living in denail of your real sex and body, or trying to avert the self-mutilations that might later come from that delusion. The ideology is always on the side of those that groom children into believing the magical notion that they have some kind of inner "gender" spirit which could ever be something other than their physical sex.
I love it when being in denial of your biological reality is referred to as "nature."
That said, this whole film is clearly a hysterical nightmare wet-dream by gender-theory folks, so of course they created the camp as a comically paranoid distortion of the other side of the debate.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
It's a "gay conversion camp" and it appears only one character is even trans or non-binary..
I get why the title might make it seem like it's all about gender but the trailer highlights there's only one "they/them" identifying person.
Otherwise the story is just about the "anti-gay" conversion therapy stuff.
I get why the title might make it seem like it's all about gender but the trailer highlights there's only one "they/them" identifying person.
Otherwise the story is just about the "anti-gay" conversion therapy stuff.
Having an awareness of the options of known human experience available and letting someone discover who they are safely in community is something different than what you're describing. Your experience sounds limited to a very specific event. What grooming are you taking about?
While the gender issues only impact a very small percentage of people, it's a good indicator of empathy and self-reflection. Perhaps why many push it so hard currently. Knowing if someone gives a shit about the rights of these people is something a lot of people want to know. They have their reasons.
There was a Bill Maher episode in another thread that mentioned how data showed more people coming out as gay/bisexual and whatnot. Didn't even occur to Maher that the reason for that is that more people are comfortable in the open due to advances in social behavior and human understanding.
No one knows where this movie is going to land making it something of an enigma.
Mistake
Member
Well I guess they couldn’t do a fat camp. The killing would be over before it even started
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
American conservatives have decided talking to kids about any of this stuff is actually some sick "Grooming."
Just another attempt to label anything not-straight as some degenerate pedo "fetish" and not just how people are.
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ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
It is indeed grooming, in the sense that the autogynephilic fetish of a small set of adult straight males is the motive force that has propelled pushing the new "trans" identities into classrooms and other spaces. That advocacy, combined with the desire of others to have another avenue by which to wrap their own identity under a "queer" label, which is the only reason that strictly meaningless trendy terms like "they/them" or "nonbinary" actually exist.
But yes, the overall shape of the trend that has led to the chemical and eventually surgical widespread destruction of perfectly healthy bodies of minors, under a magical religion of "gender identity," is absolutely a matter of grooming. And others like yourself who find it politically exhilihirating to feel like you're bravely on the side of some new human rights frontier, your actual support of what is nothing short of child abuse be damned.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
Why not 100%
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
I do not "support" gender re-assignment surgery in kids in general or hormones.. it's a topic I am just not comfortable throwing my support behind.
But the "trans/non-binary" stuff isn't remotely lead by men with some sex fetish.. in fact it's roughly equal now among F2M and M2F "transitions."
Just ridiculous to call it "grooming" in general.
Mistake
Member
My nephew walked in on two boys performing sex acts in the elementary school bathroom. Afterwards the school applauded it. If you think children aren’t being “groomed,” you’re gravely mistaken
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So you're saying the school applauding(everyone clapped?) meant that the people at the school were encouraging the the boys so they would have sex with the men who work at the school?
From the story of a nephew.
That's what it reads like you're saying.
Unless the meaning of groomed changed somewhere.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What in the world does this story (which honestly I take w/ a huge grain of salt) even have to do with "grooming"?
It has nothing to do with grooming, either does telling straight kids to use condoms or anything else related to "talking with children about the reality of sex" that isn't specifically an adult edging a child into having sex with THEM personally.
And 80% of elementary school teachers and administration are WOMEN...so unless you think they are all secretly pedos for gay boys I don't know WTF to tell you there lol
Something can be wrong/inappropriate/argued against w/o throwing PEDO accusations around.. calling everything grooming/pedo completely illogically is not a good argument and isn't going to convince anyone, in fact it'll get you ignored by anyone who in any way supports LGBT stuff.
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El Pistolero
Banned
Fuz
Banned
Ahahahahah
Was getting "STEPFORD WIVES" vibes from the initial read, and then it became hookum. Could have been an interesting take, that instead now just looks like generic teen slasher.
. . .also, how they were able to get that title through PEACOCK top brass is beyond me.
Mistake
Member
First of all, children performing sex acts is usually a sign of abuse. Second, introducing such concepts, including changing gender or whatever, and ENCOURAGING it, is grooming. The term is used for both men and women who do this by the way, I never said it was only for men, you assumed that yourself.
Are you kidding? That title is the only reason we have been gabbing about it! If it was called "Camp Slay the Gay Away" I'm not sure it would have hit as well
In the Funcooker.
Holy shit how did I miss this -
Yeah that didn't happen. Not the kids "performing sex acts" on one another, but "the school applauded." What were they applauding? Two kids (who are now exposed, no pun intended, by this "applause") getting caught in an embarrassing situation?
. . .also what does that anecdote have to do with grooming?
Yeah that didn't happen. Not the kids "performing sex acts" on one another, but "the school applauded." What were they applauding? Two kids (who are now exposed, no pun intended, by this "applause") getting caught in an embarrassing situation?
. . .also what does that anecdote have to do with grooming?
Mistake
Member
There was a staff meeting and a letter sent home to parents basically saying how great it was. If you don’t want to take my word for it, that’s fine.
See my post above.
And by the way, I taught elementary school for several years. I know the difference between teaching the birds and the bees and outright confusing kids with material they’re not ready for
El Pistolero
Banned
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
"Grooming" perfectly captures the way children have become useful human fodder in service of a system of fanatical sexual & ideological beliefs which belong to a faction of adults, who in turn should know better than to use their authority to press these matters onto minds that have zero chance of understanding, only of mimicking the expectations of those authorities. Yes, that is grooming, and it is child abuse write large.
The purely magical erotic belief that you could change your sex or find some hidden other sex inside you is something that emerged from autogynephilic adult males in recent decades, people like Bruce Jenner whose fetish is so obviously being paraded for his own enjoyment--as he tries hard to mimic a kind of pornified caricature of a woman from his fantasies--that it's a wonder how anyone with the slightest mental consistency can't see through it.
Many of these men are quite wealthy, which is a more like profile to run into this kind of thing; see for instance the full story of the Wachowski's and their obsession with dominatrixes, which gradually led into a "gender identity" when that became a vogue way to carry this fetish into public life: https://archive.ph/PYeMs (Rolling Stone later buried this article, because ideologically you're no longer permitted to tell the truth here.)
Those men fund powerful organizations (take for example "Mermaids" in the UK), which spend millions to try and push "transgender" ideas into classroom spaces and pedagogical resources. But when you mention female teachers, yes that's a sad part of this... what happened politically to create this strange alliance?
It's basically a perfect strategic move by which this particular lines of fetishes could be rebranded as actually another kind of queer, another part of gay rights, etc. In a historically bizarre porn-saturated youth culture like ours with hardcore material on every kid's smartphone, there are other pathologies at stake, particularly with people like young women who are coming of age, dealing with body changes, and suddenly find all of that material abhorrent to the point where they come to hate their female body. Female "trans" come from this self-disgust, entirely unrelated clinically to male autogynephilic desires which come from a fetish, but "trans" and gender-identity are purely political labels invented to unify these things in order to normalize it.
So then you pair this with a generation of progressive young women in places like education schools, who are desperate to take on some of these trendy labels like "queer" or tumblerish "nonbinary," particularly those which have no real sacrifice involved and really just translate to "normal straight girl but nose-ring and colored hair, hates parents." They adore the salvation complex of awakening poor oppressed "trans" kids in their schools, so they fall into this ideology easily and are essentially dumb soldiers for the mostly-male activists who want this new kind of sexual practice in schools and normalized at all ages.
Kids are being "groomed" to support all of this: to help normalize the sexual desires of certain men, to provide more fodder for a certain pornified caste, to validate the savior complexes of progressive women, and to give this exhilarating sense to certain ideological fools that somehow we are entering a new era beyond binary sex, some playground of new identities and sexual endless possibility. Children's bodies are being destroyed in service of all of this. It's despicable, as is any person who supports it at any level.
Grildon Tundy
Member
Indeed, it was
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Like RDJ said, you never go full retard. But you did. Congrats.
MudoSkills
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darrylgorn
Member
I would never say that this content couldn't be produced and I actually see the value in it.
At the same time it also screams 'try hard' and I wonder if even people in the lgbt community are rolling their eyes.
At the same time it also screams 'try hard' and I wonder if even people in the lgbt community are rolling their eyes.
supernova8
Banned
Saw the movie title and thought "no surely they didn't..."
OK yes they did.
Could maybe enjoy it if they replaced Kevin Bacon with Jordan Peterson.
OK yes they did.
Could maybe enjoy it if they replaced Kevin Bacon with Jordan Peterson.
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Turnt
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The teens are hiding out from the killer but can hear him getting closer because he's started crying
Insane Metal
Member
I honestly thought this wasn't real. Lmao
It might be premature if they did.
He wrote Sinbad which had Eris
Nothing straight about chaos. So fluid and such subtlety.
Other factors are involved with the quality of They/Them but he has penned scripts for well made shows.
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The film is screenwriter John Logan’s directorial debut. Logan has previously worked on films including “Gladiator” and “The Aviator.” When Peacock announced the film in May, Logan said “They/Them” had been “germinating within me my whole life.”
“I’ve loved horror movies as long as I can remember, I think because monsters represent ‘the other’ and as a gay kid I felt a powerful sense of kinship with those characters who were different, outlawed, or forbidden,” Logan said in a statement at the time. “I wanted to make a movie that celebrates queerness, with characters that I never saw when I was growing up. When people walk away from the movie, I hope they’re going to remember the incredible love that these kids have for each other and how that love needs to be protected and celebrated.”
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'They/Them' trailer features Kevin Bacon as the leader of a creepy conversion therapy camp
The thriller, which debuts Aug. 5 on Peacock, is led by Bacon and the nonbinary actor Theo Germaine.
www.nbcnews.com
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Can't wait to see the white cishet Christian killer get his due. Slay queens slay!
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Found the killer.
Saved ya a watch.
Saved ya a watch.
NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Biggest Trails Stan
I thought it would be the straight white maleFound the killer.
Saved ya a watch.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Maybe They/Them is the survivor?I thought it would be the straight white male
The killer should be threatening, not overcompensating.I thought it would be the straight white male
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
It’s interesting how calling out the obvious, very public fetishes of trans activists will be read as some kind of conspiracy thinking.
On the contrary, no one is talking about secret plans or smoke filled back rooms. It’s just the following set of undeniable observations:
- the visible “trans” movement is primarily autogynephilic males, meaning men with a sexual fetish of wanting to appear as women. At one time they would have mostly been “transvestites” but now it’s that older generation mixed with hentai obsessed young men who have anime avatars and threaten violence against the “TERFs” who point out their obvious fetish
- the opposite phenomenon (women who present as men) has nothing to do with the above, in any clinical sense. It’s instead mostly made of young women who have been abused, are autistic, or are dealing with disgust at the pornified image of women on social media etc and reject their femaleness like an anorexic rejects their body
- politically these interest have intersected with other progressive obsessions of overcoming gender roles and so on, so they find common ground under new purely political terms like “gender identity”
Hopefully that simplified outline helps, if the original expected a bit too much of the reader
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Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
The words "empowering" and "slasher film" should never exist within the same sentence.
I am slightly curious to see how they approach this, because its not inherently a bad idea to set a slasher at a conversion therapy camp, I just doubt they'd have the nerve to do anything actually edgy.
I am slightly curious to see how they approach this, because its not inherently a bad idea to set a slasher at a conversion therapy camp, I just doubt they'd have the nerve to do anything actually edgy.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
I have a 10 year old niece who came home and told her parents that she and one other girl are the only straight girls in her class.
All the other girls are lesbian or LGTBQ.
This is normal. Totally normal.
All the other girls are lesbian or LGTBQ.
This is normal. Totally normal.
At 10? Thats like 3rd - 4th grade. I find it rather difficult that any kids at that age really understand what being gay is, much less bisexual. I have one of those and he would be clueless about realistically describing himself in those terms.
DarthPutin
Member
The funny part about gender theory is when someone who did their research talks about it, they sound like insane conspiracy theorists. Because it does sound insane, but is also true. We live in a weird world.
Anyway, should've gone for dark humor. Killer will let you go if you give him non-circular definition of a woman, but no one's willing to do that. There are two killers but one of them identifies as "they" so people are perpetually confused. "They are out there!" "You mean Serge?" "No! Not they, they!"
The last survivor is brave and stunning person who's pronounces are "frog/frogs/frogself". The Last Non-binary snaps and stabs killer dozen times yelling "It's frog, frog's, frogself!! !Frog *stab* got tired of waiting for cops (ACAB!) and *stab* had to kill the bigot *stab* frogself with frogs knife! It's fucking easy to remember, mum! "
Anyway, should've gone for dark humor. Killer will let you go if you give him non-circular definition of a woman, but no one's willing to do that. There are two killers but one of them identifies as "they" so people are perpetually confused. "They are out there!" "You mean Serge?" "No! Not they, they!"
The last survivor is brave and stunning person who's pronounces are "frog/frogs/frogself". The Last Non-binary snaps and stabs killer dozen times yelling "It's frog, frog's, frogself!! !Frog *stab* got tired of waiting for cops (ACAB!) and *stab* had to kill the bigot *stab* frogself with frogs knife! It's fucking easy to remember, mum! "
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Wrong Kevin. They should have got Kevin Sorbo. He'd fit the part so well. The wokies would love when he gets his comeuppance.
So I watched this (on Peacoooooock) last night. It didn't get good critic or audience reviews and for good reason. As a slasher film it is pretty dismal. More of a revenge tale if anything but it is slow, pretty ham-fisted, and picked the least interesting character to focus on. Starts of strong though, with a pretty decent kill and a surprisingly empathetic speech by Kevin Bacon's character that, if nothing else, makes you think.
But then it just keeps going, and going, and going without much purpose. Too slow a burn IMHO. The camper kids were mostly well done if pretty stereotypical (flamboyant gay guy, punky non-binary girl, repressed gay jock, girly lesbian, couple trans characters). It is clearly on the side of the kids and does a pretty good job setting each of them up as real people, though Jordan as the lead was probably the least interesting.
As a straight (heh heh) film about a gay conversion camp (though I'm not sure where trans people really fit in that paradigm) that descends into hell it was pretty mediocre because it doesn't get too crazy. There is no real focus for solving any problems for the kids, even those that came there willingly. Probably not the point though. Anyway, it dances around addressing real issues and just lampooning them for fun.
As a SLASHER film it has almost no gore, titillation, or threat, so it fails on that aspect almost completely. No scares, the killer is presented in a pretty illogical fashion with little to no set-up or foreshadowing, and the kids never feel in danger or really do.....well...anything despite lots of "This is my POWER!" scenes where you think some whoop ass might come down.
But then it just keeps going, and going, and going without much purpose. Too slow a burn IMHO. The camper kids were mostly well done if pretty stereotypical (flamboyant gay guy, punky non-binary girl, repressed gay jock, girly lesbian, couple trans characters). It is clearly on the side of the kids and does a pretty good job setting each of them up as real people, though Jordan as the lead was probably the least interesting.
As a straight (heh heh) film about a gay conversion camp (though I'm not sure where trans people really fit in that paradigm) that descends into hell it was pretty mediocre because it doesn't get too crazy. There is no real focus for solving any problems for the kids, even those that came there willingly. Probably not the point though. Anyway, it dances around addressing real issues and just lampooning them for fun.
As a SLASHER film it has almost no gore, titillation, or threat, so it fails on that aspect almost completely. No scares, the killer is presented in a pretty illogical fashion with little to no set-up or foreshadowing, and the kids never feel in danger or really do.....well...anything despite lots of "This is my POWER!" scenes where you think some whoop ass might come down.
Days like these...
Have a Blessed Day
Slasher is my least favorite horror sub genre so hard pass