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Thirteen With the C.I.A. Sought by Italy in a Kidnapping

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MILAN, June 24 - An Italian judge has ordered the arrest of 13 officers and operatives of the Central Intelligence Agency on charges that they seized an Egyptian cleric on a Milan street two years ago and flew him to Egypt for questioning, Italian prosecutors and investigators said Friday.

The judge, Chiara Nobili of Milan, signed the arrest warrants on Wednesday for 13 C.I.A. operatives who are suspected of seizing an imam named Hassan Mustafa Osama Nasr, also known as Abu Omar, as he walked to his mosque here for noon prayers on Feb. 17, 2003.

It is unclear what prompted the issuance of the warrants, but Judge Guido Salvini said in May that it was "certain" that Mr. Nasr had been seized by "people belonging to foreign intelligence networks interested in interrogating him and neutralizing him, to then hand him over to Egyptian authorities."

Mr. Nasr, who was under investigation before his disappearance for possible links to Al Qaeda, is still missing, and his family and friends say he was tortured repeatedly by Egyptian jailers.

The detailed warrants remained sealed in a Milan courthouse on Friday. But copies obtained by The New York Times show that 13 American citizens, all identified in the documents as either C.I.A. employees or as having links to the agency, are wanted to stand trial on kidnapping charges, which carry a maximum penalty of 10 years and 8 months in prison. The Americans' whereabouts are unknown.

Mr. Nasr was released from custody in Egypt 14 months later, in April 2004, and he phoned his wife in Milan and an associate to say he had been subjected to electric shock treatments, the investigators said. He also described the route that he was taken shortly after his kidnapping, providing an important clue to the Italian police. Besides complaining about hearing loss in one ear, Mr. Nasr also said he could barely walk.

Shortly after placing the calls, he was rearrested by the Egyptian police and has not been heard from again.

The warrants are valid in the rest of the EU, but I have not read anything about Italy-US extradition treaties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/25/international/europe/25milan.html
 

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
Hence forth Italian dressing will be known as Liberty dressing, and Italian ice, Liberty Ice. This is a great day for America.

I can't wait to get a Freedom Pop next time I am in Chicago

;)
 
It is unclear what prompted the issuance of the warrants
Wonder if America's unwillingness to punish the Army after they shoot up one of Italy's intelligence guys has anything to do with it. Maybe...probably not. Oh well, I'm sure the good imam was on his way to plant a tree, open a school, and feed the poor when he was snatched.
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Forgotten_Taco said:
Hence forth Italian dressing will be known as Liberty dressing, and Italian ice, Liberty Ice. This is a great day for America.

And Little Freedom in New York City, where you can get a traditional Freedom Soda!
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
King Jippo said:
Wonder if America's unwillingness to punish the Army after they shoot up one of Italy's intelligence guys has anything to do with it. Maybe...probably not. Oh well, I'm sure the good imam was on his way to plant a tree, open a school, and feed the poor when he was snatched.
You're right. That possibility justifies snatching him up, allegedly beating him at an American airbase, sending him to Egypt for further torture and where he was released with injuries and quickly whisked away again after he told his wife. All seemingly without Italy's involvement. Yeah, that sounds perfectly reasonable.
 
Mejilan said:
Shoulda called the Mossad, I guess...
What are Israel's extradition treaties like? From the small bit I've heard, Israel can be pretty difficult.

xsarien said:
Why does Italy hate freedom?
I was kind of suprised when Italy did this. It's still Berlusconi land after all.
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Cause you can't just go around the world doing whatever the hell you want. If you're in another country, you go by that countries rules.
 
Tenacious-V said:
Cause you can't just go around the world doing whatever the hell you want. If you're in another country, you go by that countries rules.

Well, unless you're the CIA. And...uh...you don't get caught. :lol
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Kung Fu Jedi said:
Well, unless you're the CIA. And...uh...you don't get caught. :lol

:lol :lol Well yeah I guess..... I agree with the Judge though, arrest them. Regardless of being CIA or not, and the suspected Al Qaeda connection, they infiltrated a foreign country, took a person without consent from that country's government and took them out of the country to torture him for info.....

Basically exactly like this seasons 24.... :lol :lol
 

G4life98

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Tenacious-V said:
:lol :lol Well yeah I guess..... I agree with the Judge though, arrest them. Regardless of being CIA or not, and the suspected Al Qaeda connection, they infiltrated a foreign country, took a person without consent from that country's government and took them out of the country to torture him for info.....

Basically exactly like this seasons 24.... :lol :lol

kiefer_sutherland___105366a.jpg

"Yeah, I did it!"
 
Tenacious-V said:
Cause you can't just go around the world doing whatever the hell you want. If you're in another country, you go by that countries rules.

Excellent point! You should point that out to the many intelligence agencies throught the world. I'm sure they'll all thank you for bringing this to their attention...before they abduct you and send you away to another land to be tortured for being so naive. :lol
 

Tenacious-V

Thinks his PR is better than yours.
King Jippo said:
Excellent point! You should point that out to the many intelligence agencies throught the world. I'm sure they'll all thank you for bringing this to their attention...before they abduct you and send you away to another land to be tortured for being so naive. :lol

Oh I know damn well it happens everywhere. Just it's been extremely emphasized from the States from all their recent questionable actions.

I will be fucking happy if they're all arrested, moreso if they're prosecuted.
 
King Jippo said:
Excellent point! You should point that out to the many intelligence agencies throught the world. I'm sure they'll all thank you for bringing this to their attention...before they abduct you and send you away to another land to be tortured for being so naive. :lol
Let's hope that the US government does its job and protects him from this form of terrorism. We can't let Tenacious-V be the example for the rest of us.
 

FightyF

Banned
AssMan said:
Hell, I'd shoot at a vehicle if it was driving really fast and didn't reply. Better safe than sorry.

Hmm...I wonder how well it would go over here if the New York police started yelling at people in Cantonese and then shot them up for "not replying".
 

Joates

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Fight for Freeform said:
Hmm...I wonder how well it would go over here if the New York police started yelling at people in Cantonese and then shot them up for "not replying".


Now thats totally different... You have to know that.
 
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