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This Is What It Looks Like When the President Asks People to Snitch on Their Neighbor

https://splinternews.com/this-is-what-it-looks-like-when-the-president-asks-peop-1819077393

In April, the Trump Administration launched what it called the Victims of Immigration Crime Engagement (VOICE) hotline, with a stated mission to ”provide proactive, timely, adequate, and professional services to victims of crimes committed by removable aliens." But internal logs of calls to VOICE obtained by Splinter show that hundreds of Americans seized on the hotline to lodge secret accusations against acquaintances, neighbors, or even their own family members, often to advance petty personal grievances.

The logs—hundreds of which were available for download on the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement web site despite containing extremely sensitive personal information—call to mind the efforts of closed societies like East Germany or Cuba to cultivate vast networks of informants and an atmosphere of fear and suspicion.

The reports rarely involve the sort of dangerous criminality that Donald Trump campaigned against. Despite the VOICE office's statement that the service ”is not a hotline to report crime," callers are using it to alert Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers to minor infractions, or merely to the presence of people they suspect of being undocumented immigrants.

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The summaries are drawn from two spreadsheets documenting incoming calls to the VOICE hotline. The first, provided to Splinter by ICE in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, covers the first two weeks of the hotline's operation in April. It was redacted by ICE to protect the privacy of callers and subjects.

But after conducting Google searches for some data in that spreadsheet, including local police report numbers provided by callers, we were able to find a second spreadsheet, covering April to mid-August, hosted on the ICE web site. That spreadsheet appears to have been partially redacted to prepare it for release under the FOIA, but two columns containing intimate personal details—names, cell phone numbers, alleged crimes, addresses, and Social Security numbers—of both callers and the alleged undocumented immigrants they were calling about remained completely unredacted and publicly available. In several cases, the details would make it possible for people to figure out who informed on them.


Brendan Raedy, an ICE spokesperson, declined a request to speak on the phone about the logs or the publication of private data. In response to a series of emailed questions, he wrote only: ”It's important to know that ICE/VOICE is not using victim personal information to develop leads for immigration enforcement. Callers are not even asked for their status. Information is shared with Victim Assistance Specialists to help when and where they can."

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Publicly, the VOICE hotline is not supposed to be a crime-reporting tool at all, but a means of connecting victims and witnesses in existing cases with support services and with more information about the people accused. But internal training materials for the hotline, obtained by Splinter, contradict that mission statement, saying that the hotline ”will provide a means for persons to report suspected criminal activity."

Callers were often referred to the Homeland Security Investigations tipline. In several cases, VOICE employees contacted a field office to relay information gleaned from the calls, records show.


On many of the calls, the only violation the informant offers the authority is that the people exist. On June 19, a caller filed the following report:

Caller wanted to report his next door neighbor. Caller claims his next door neighbors are undocumented and are from South America. Caller claims two boys' ages 14 and 15 reside there along with an adult male. Caller provided his next door neighbor's address as [street and number redacted by Splinter], St. Augustine, FL [ZIP code redacted by Splinter].

Together, the logs are a grim running diary of a country where people eagerly report their fellow residents to the authorities, or seek to bring the power of the immigration police to bear on family disputes. On May 25, 2017, one man called to say that his stepson was violating a restraining order by parking his car near his house. He didn't want his wife to know that he was trying to get her son deported:

Caller stated the illegal alien (step-son) is a drug addict, unemployed, homeless and living in his car that he parks at [address redacted by Splinter]. Caller stated the subject is a danger to society and wants to know why he was not taken into ICE custody. Caller stated the subject recently missing his court hearing [number and date redacted by Splinter] and is now in probation violation. Caller provided A number, name [redacted by Splinter], DOB, and COB. Caller stated he does not want his wife to know and prefers not to be reached at his cell number [redacted by Splinter] that he shares with her.
Other complaints likewise focused on family strife:

Caller requested to report her mother-in law and sister-in law. Caller stated these individuals came to the U.S. as tourists and stayed in the U.S. in order to get legal status.
Caller stated the undocumented individual is destroying her family and is committing adultery.
Caller requested to report his ex wife that is undocumented as an overstayed on her visa.
Caller requested to report the illegal alien because the illegal alien will not let her see [her] granddaughter.
One caller went so far as to provide the date and location of an upcoming divorce hearing at which the accused undocumented immigrant was scheduled to appear.


Caller requested to report an undocumented alien who is accusing him of domestic violence in order to obtain legal status. Caller claims subject is his legal wife.
Caller wanted to know how to report an illegal marriage (sham marriage) with an immigration benefit involved. Caller stated that the subject [name redacted by Splinter] pressed domestic violence charges against her in order to receive a Visa.
Caller claimed subject made false accusations of domestic violence towards the caller.
Caller claimed subject is trying to claim Asylum through the false accusation of domestic violation in order for subject to stay in the U.S.

One caller, for instance, complained that her granddaughter was living in Florida with an undocumented immigrant, and further alleged that the immigrant was a sex offender. The suspect, the caller said, was in the process of receiving United States citizenship. Public records for the unredacted address in the call log did identify a middle-aged man with a Latino name living there, but not one who was listed on a sex-offender registry.

Beyond family strife, callers also sought to involve ICE in business disputes. One caller made an immigration complaint against an employee on a work visa at a ballroom-dance studio who was allegedly trying to start her own studio and lure customers away.
Callers accused undocumented people of working at painting companies, a drywall installer, a demolition firm, a luxury resort, a foundry, a dairy, an alehouse, a Subway, and an ”adult entertainment club." They provided addresses, names, and sometimes even specific working hours.

Some people appeared to go to great lengths to deliver information to the feds. One caller, seeking to report a pair of supposedly undocumented workers, provided full names and aliases for both of them, along with the make, color, and license plate of the car the used, and the facts that they worked on a farm and attended a particular Planet Fitness gym ”in the afternoons." Nowhere did the report include any claims of criminal activity beyond the alleged use of false documents.

Another caller claimed to have overheard ”a neighbor mention during an argument that subject (1)...has an order of removal with immigration." The subject's boyfriend, the caller said, was also undocumented, and the caller supplied the address where the two lived.

Caller stated that he wanted to report (2) two people who are using EBT cards to purchase wine and steak in Sacramento (CA). Caller did not have any information on the subjects. Caller wanted to know if he can make a citizens arrest if he sees this happening again.

Another provided precise GPS coordinates for a ”camp" of allegedly undocumented people in Nevada.
Some people on the spreadsheet said they had gotten callbacks from ICE. A California woman who asked to remain anonymous contacted the hotline after she said her undocumented Mexican husband sexually molested her 11-year-old daughter. She told Splinter that ICE has contacted her via email about her call, but she said she did not understand how her phone number and police report information were published online. ”That's news to me, they sure didn't tell me that," she said. ”They told me it was private." Her husband's name and work address were also published, and she said she worries for her safety if he finds out that she filed a report with ICE.
At press time, more than three days after we had notified an ICE spokesperson about the personal information in the exposed spreadsheet and 22 hours after we had sent them the specific link to it, the information was still available on the agency's web site.


https://splinternews.com/this-is-what-it-looks-like-when-the-president-asks-peop-1819077393

Despite what it looks like I didn't quote the whole article, my formatting was intentional, each caller gets a quote because as you read it you should feel inundated. Then there's the fact that the government is essentially doxxing everyone (those reporting and those being reported on alike) at the same time... Evil and incompetence collide and the result is as terrifying as it is stupefying
 

Chindogg

Member
This administration continues to prove the theory that human beings are fundamentally selfish and evil given the option to get away with doing something evil without consequence.
 

Zaru

Member
These are the same kind of people who would have snitched on jews and other vulnerable minorities to the Nazis if given the chance.
All they needed was for the state to give them the means.
 
I can’t believe I’m writing this but since they had information available so that people could find out who informed on them means they are doing this worse than the Nazis? I mean, what language do I even use at this point. Utterly utterly fucked up situation where the hotline should never have been setup in the first place.

I only recently read in detail how horrific it was when the nazis instituted that here when they occupied us. No lessons were learned from the past whatsoever.
 

Ever

Banned
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Just do shit like we did in middle school, that'll scare em off xd

You

me

recess

2 hours.

You're so dead SHELDON.
 

Verelios

Member
Can't say I didn't see this general incompetence and toxic environment coming. Well, at least you know who snitched on you.
 

traveler

Not Wario
The administration repeatedly refuses to learn from history. Look at the red scare or witch hunts- people always abuse this type of thing.
 

Ac30

Member
Caller stated that he wanted to report (2) two people who are using EBT cards to purchase wine and steak in Sacramento (CA). Caller did not have any information on the subjects. Caller wanted to know if he can make a citizens arrest if he sees this happening again.

Welfare queens at it again!

Jesus Christ who fucking calls ICE over that
 

Zips

Member
When Prime Minister Harper in Canada was running for his last re-election he tried terrible tactics like setting up a similar shit hotline, trying to foment and benefit from hatred of Muslims. It was one of the reasons his campaign tanked, thankfully. It was and remains a disgusting thing, and I remain grateful Canadians rejected it.

I recall it being an idea by an American consultant they had brought in whose specialty was trying to build division, fear, and hatred for the benefit of political candidates.

I wonder if that guy is in the Trump admin now. Or maybe he was just a splinter shit from the greater whole that infests American politics.
 

kukubrew

Member
Wait, are these two the same couple?

Caller requested to report an undocumented alien who is accusing him of domestic violence in order to obtain legal status. Caller claims subject is his legal wife.

Caller wanted to know how to report an illegal marriage (sham marriage) with an immigration benefit involved.
Caller stated that the subject [name redacted by Splinter] pressed domestic violence charges against her in order to receive a Visa.
 
How can people get so embittered and insecure that they want to sic ICE on people for eating dinner

Why are people so evil that it takes a large and strictly ethical government to keep them from hurting each other

Why
 

Royce McCutcheon

Junior Member
How can people get so embittered and insecure that they want to sic ICE on people for eating dinner

Why are people so evil that it takes a large and strictly ethical government to keep them from hurting each other

Why

"I work all day and my taxes are paying for these negros to eat steak and drink wine!"
 

Apathy

Member
Holy shit these people. I'm sure they are the same kind of racists that go and say that it's the media that makes them look like racists, not what they say or do.
 

Shadybiz

Member
Jesus...brazen incompetence by the administration (no shock there), and a stunning lack of humanity for many of the callers.
 

Beartruck

Member
How can people get so embittered and insecure that they want to sic ICE on people for eating dinner

Why are people so evil that it takes a large and strictly ethical government to keep them from hurting each other

Why
Heres the thing: ive worked in poor areas and theyre probably not buying the steak to eat it. Oftentimes they sell it to someone else for a pittance just to get any extra money they can for bills.
 

Narroo

Member
How can people get so embittered and insecure that they want to sic ICE on people for eating dinner

Why are people so evil that it takes a large and strictly ethical government to keep them from hurting each other

Why

A bit off topic, but this is why the government and it's laws needs to be bureaucratic and procedural to the point of insanity. People can and will abuse holes in laws and government, de facto or de jure, to maim and kill each other.

Which is why this snitch list is such a ridiculously bad idea.
 
Trump is like a typical right wing AM radio talk show host. He is essentially one of those talk show hosts as president. He is no more responsible as an ideologue than the most effective and popular conservative propagandists, and he's more charismatic than most. The sad sacks who fill their heads with that shit interpret Trump's rhetoric exactly how they interpret the rhetoric from any conservative talk show host. It's the same exact situation, only now it's broadcast from the WH itself. It's actual policy.
 

Kin5290

Member
While this doesn't seem too far off from what we saw happen in the Red Scare days, how legitimate is this outfit called "Splinter News", anyways?
 
While this doesn't seem too far off from what we saw happen in the Red Scare days, how legitimate is this outfit called "Splinter News", anyways?

It's part of the Gizmodo Media Group aka Gizmodo/io9/Kotaku/Deadspin/Jezebel/etc... Used to be Fusion.net


And I mean this is literally quotes from a government report.

https://www.poynter.org/news/what-splinter-anyway-editor-chief-dodai-stewart-explains-sites-rebrand

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_Media_Group
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_TV
 
Yeahh Canadian Harper's tipline was disgusting when announced. Literally a "Barbaric Cultural Practices" tipline to report in your muslim neighbors you suspect to be participating in honour killings / polygamy / child marriage. Said to be needed in order to protect our Canadian Values™.
 

gabbo

Member
Yeahh Canadian Harper's tipline was disgusting when announced. Literally a "Barbaric Cultural Practices" tipline to report in your muslim neighbors you suspect to be participating in honour killings / polygamy / child marriage. Said to be needed in order to protect our Canadian Values™.
Thankfully he and Leitch got smacked down for it in the election/her leadership run, but there is definitely a section of Canadian society who drool over the idea of such a thing being implemented. Hopefully it never does because it's racist to its core
 
The only glimmer of hope is that the people who are tasked to run this thing know its outlandish and could never do anything with the info and are in it for a easy gravy boat of a job until these morons exit the white house. Any type of action taken by these snitches would have the government sued up the ass and those "illegals" would have a nice pay day.
 
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