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[FunkMiller]

I would say the best tip would be to have a ghetto blaster with America: Fuck Yeah playing at full volume as you board the plane. Also, try to be wearing clothes entirely constructed of American flags. Insist upon a seat that is also covered in American flags. When they bring you your dinner, throw it at the stewardess unless it's a burger covered in a pound of sugar.

At this stage, no one will dare challenge your levels of American freedom and patriotism, and you'll be able to hold the gun throughout the entire flight, whispering the second amendment over and over to yourself, while the cabin crew all stand over you, taking turns to gently fondle the barrel.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Why you are allowed to travel with a firearm

Don’t know if bait, but in case you are serious, an American and travelling to Europe:

Don’t bring the gun, we have incredibly strict gun laws and self defense explanation will not fly 99% of the time in front of any European judge. Also “feared for my life” is BS excuse in Europe.

Thus pointless to being a gun.

 

[G-DannY]

Tbh i never looked to much into gun regulation in italy, but yeah if you have a firearm license...

that is really a pain in the ass to get, and you have to go trough multiple tests and sanity tests and if i recall correctly even repeating them on regular base

Even then, it is not "free" use...
You know from the news etc: here (I'm form Italy too) even if someone breaks into your house to rob you and rape your wife, if they manage to not provide an "offset" threat to you and your gun, and you fire at them, you are instantly on the fault side and you're going to have penal consequences.

 

[GymWolf]

that is really a pain in the ass to get, and you have to go trough multiple tests and sanity tests and if i recall correctly even repeating them on regular base

Even then, it is not "free" use...
You know from the news etc: here (I'm form Italy too) even if someone breaks into your house to rob you and rape your wife, if they manage to not provide an "offset" threat to you and your gun, and you fire at them, you are instantly on the fault side and you're going to have penal consequences.

Yeah, self defense laws in italy are fucked up.

But needing more controls and psych evaluation to get a gun is a good thing.

Buying a gun is not supposed to be easy, you are not buying a fleshlight.

 

[G-DannY]

Yeah, self defense laws in italy are fucked up.

But needing more controls and psych evaluation to get a gun is a good thing.

Buying a gun is not supposed to be easy, you are not buying a fleshlight.

yes, I'm quite happy that purchasing and owning a gun is a pain in the ass here. That's the correct way to avoid USA shootout masscares here.

(even if BTW if you REALLY want to buy a gun, you can always resort to black market and "grey" ways and you'll probably get it without so much hassle... But then you have to have the clear intent to go against the law)

 

[GymWolf]

yes, I'm quite happy that purchasing and owning a gun is a pain in the ass here. That's the correct way to avoid USA shootout masscares here.

(even if BTW if you REALLY want to buy a gun, you can always resort to black market and "grey" ways and you'll probably get it without so much hassle... But then you have to have the clear intent to go against the law)

Yeah, if you really wanna go into a killing spree, buying an illegal gun in US must be pretty easy.

This is why the narrative that gun regulation could avoid mass shootings is both logical and illogical at the same time.

I guess that a stricter gun regulation could restrict the chance of buying an illegal automatic rifle because they are probably harder to find than a shitty pistol on the streets, but you can still kill a lot of people with a simple gun if your aim is good.

 

[winjer]

Yeah, if you really wanna go into a killing spree, buying an illegal gun in US must be pretty easy.

This is why the narrative that gun regulation could avoid mass shootings is both logical and illogical at the same time.

I guess that a stricter gun regulation could restrict the chance of buying an illegal automatic rifle because they are probably harder to find than a shitty pistol on the streets, but you can still kill a lot of people with a simple gun if your aim is good.

The problem is that the USA has too many years, of little gun regulation. So now they are flooded with guns, legal and illegal.
Removing most of these guns from the civilian population would take a lot of effort and time.
Stricter gun regulation would be just one step. Not the whole solution.
The government would also need to buy guns, to encourage civilians to willingly give up their guns.
This would take decades and a change in generations. But postposing the solution, just because it's dauting, means that shootings will continue to be a problem in the country.

Also, it's necessary to invest in better police forces, so that the common citizen feels safe without having to resort to gun ownership.
And when I talk about investing in police, I'm not talking about giving them tricked out rifles and armored vehicles, so the police officers can larp about being special forces, while shooters kill children inside a school.
I'm talking about much better training, and selection of police officers.

 

[nush]

and now it's political...

 

[GymWolf]

The problem is that the USA has too many years, of little gun regulation. So now they are flooded with guns, legal and illegal.
Removing most of these guns from the civilian population would take a lot of effort and time.
Stricter gun regulation would be just one step. Not the whole solution.
The government would also need to buy guns, to encourage civilians to willingly give up their guns.
This would take decades and a change in generations. But postposing the solution, just because it's dauting, means that shootings will continue to be a problem in the country.

Exactly.

People think that just banning guns would solve any problem, but shit like this take a massive amount of time.

But i guess that you have to start somewhere...

 

[GymWolf]

and now it's political...

Oh cmon, this is just a logic discussion, nothing about politics, i'm personally a-politic.

No one is arguing about left or right.

 

[FunkMiller]

No one is arguing about left or right.

A majority of Americans want greater gun control. This is more about the corrupt nature of American politics as a whole than it is left vs right, though clearly in this specific case, the corruption extends further into the Republican party.

Ultimately, I think the vast majority of US gun owners wouldn't mind better restrictions. It is, as ever, the vocal but powerful minority making things worse for everyone.

That is the wider socio-political problem that the debate over gun control is a microcosm of: how small amounts of people with vested interest can wield disproportionate power.

 

[BlvckFox]

Sorry, OP. Two pages and not a single answer. One of my biggest tips would be to avoid connecting flights. You’d be surprised how often weapons are lost or stolen, just get direct.

Also, avoid using regular TSA locks on your gun case. TSA has master keys and any dickhead there could pop open the lock. If they want to inspect it, you have to be present with your set of keys anyway.

 

[Bragr]

This is why the narrative that gun regulation could avoid mass shootings is both logical and illogical at the same time.

No, because in a lot of these cases the kids shoot guns or are around guns because their family allows it, or even take their kids shooting on a regular basis, the kids grow up in a culture of weapons and that affects them.

So when they turn 18, they know how to get guns and know how to use them. Over here, even the crazy kids never really even touched a firearm.

 

[AJUMP23]

You have to buy an approved case and I am pretty sure you have to declare it to the airline and it goes in your checked baggage. Ammo had to be separate from the weapon as well I believe. I would look at what airline I’m flying and see if the have a faq and any pre flight paper work.