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[Izuna]

I still need to test out the MP changes but from what I can tell, Mozambique is still bae and 1 phase shift is dope.

I love you Respawn

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WHOOO I can still play the Campaign for money. Plat for £20 in 4 hours let's go

 

[tonypark]

This game is on special at the moment and I am wondering if this is worth 27 canadian dollars for the campaign alone? Also how long is it? I heard the campaign was amazing... is there any story dlc?

 

[Izuna]

This game is on special at the moment and I am wondering if this is worth 27 canadian dollars for the campaign alone? Also how long is it? I heard the campaign was amazing... is there any story dlc?

buy it

campaign is amazing and even if you don't love the MP, we have co=op now
no story dlc tho

 

[Arrrammis]

This game is on special at the moment and I am wondering if this is worth 27 canadian dollars for the campaign alone? Also how long is it? I heard the campaign was amazing... is there any story dlc?

Campaign is about 5-7 hours long, but has no fluff once you get going and has fantastic mechanics throughout.

 

[tonypark]

buy it

campaign is amazing and even if you don't love the MP, we have co=op now
no story dlc tho

Are coop missions seperate events from the campaign?

 

[Izuna]

Are coop missions seperate events from the campaign?

Co-op is pretty much Horde mode, very separate

 

[tonypark]

Co-op is pretty much Horde mode, very separate

Awesome thanks!

 

[HelloNewman]

God I love this games pvp I went on a ten pilot kill streak in one match. I'm not very good with Titans though I get smoked they are still one of my favorite parts of the game.

 

[Triforce141]

There's an option for Titanfall 1's multiplayer menu music, I just unlocked it?

On another note, getting all 7 Titan's Aegis rank to 5 may be long, but it's a fun ride

 

[Izuna]

There's an option for Titanfall 1's multiplayer menu music, I just unlocked it?

haha, I gotta unlock that on both PS4 and PC ;D

 

[OdysseusVA]

I hate you, Respawn

 

[Izuna]

;D

I'm paying for shipping to the US tomorrow with a gift box, so that's way better than buying skins haha

 

[VenomousCoffee]

Played some Frontier Defense tonight and found it really underwhelming. It didn't help that it seems nearly impossible to join a match from the start. But, I don't think it has enough combat variety (compared to say the horde modes in Gears or Mass Effect).

 

[Drewfonse]

Played 3-4 matches of FD and had, predictably, a blast. And I'm just getting into Scorch right as his buffs drop.

This game...

 

[AgentOtaku]

There's an option for Titanfall 1's multiplayer menu music, I just unlocked it?



On another note, getting all 7 Titan's Aegis rank to 5 may be long, but it's a fun ride

WHAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaatttt!!!!!!???????

 

[SmartWaffles]

War Games seems harder than other maps?

 

[OdysseusVA]

Specific changes
https://github.com/Syampuuh/Titanfall2#latest-client-changes

Rebalancing

Pilot Melee

• Punch range increased from 2.5 feet to 3.75 feet.
• Lunge range decreased from 8.13 feet to 6.89 feet.
• Lunge animation time increased from 0.2 sec to 0.3 sec.

Phase Shift

• Now carries only 1 charge instead of 2.
• Cooldown per-charge decreased from 20 sec to 15 sec.

R201/R101 Carbines

• Amped medium range damage decreased from 35 to 21. Amped longest range damage decreased from 25 to 16.

Hemlok BF-R

• Amped close range damage decreased from 45 to 43. Amped longest range damage decreased from 30 to 25.

G2A5

• Close range damage decreased from 45 to 40.
• Firerate decreased from 7 r/s to 5.5 r/s (420 RPM to 330 RPM).

V-47 Flatline

• Medium range damage decreased from 25 to 20.
• Amped close range damage decreased from 45 to 35. Amped medium range damage decreased from 35 to 25. Amped longest range damage decreased from 20 to 18.

CAR

• Medium range damage decreased from 17 to 13.
• Amped medium range damage decreased from 25 to 16. Amped longest range damage decreased from 20 to 13.

Alternator

• Medium range damage decreased from 25 to 18. Longest range damage decreased from 15 to 14.
• Amped close range damage decreased from 50 to 45. Amped medium range damage decreased from 35 to 20. Amped longest range damage decreased from 25 to 17.

Volt

• Medium range damage decreased from 18 to 15. Longest range damage decreased from 14 to 12.
• Amped medium range damage decreased from 25 to 18. Amped longest range damage decreased from 20 to 15.

R-97

• Close range damage decreased from 23 to 20. Medium range damage decreased from 18 to 12.
• Amped close range damage decreased from 33 to 25. Amped medium range damage decreased from 33 to 15. Amped longest range damage decreased from 24 to 13.

Spitfire

• Amped longest range damage decreased from 25 to 23.

X-55 Devotion

• Amped longest range damage decreased from 20 to 17.

Longbow DMR

• Firerate decreased from 3.5 r/s to 3 r/s (210 RPM to 180 RPM).
• Amped damage decreased from 80 at all ranges to 75 at all ranges.

Mastiff

• Amped close range damage decreased from 30 × 8 to 25 × 8. Amped medium and longest range damages decreased from 17 × 8 to 16 × 8.

Hammond P2016

• Close range damage decreased from 40 to 30. Medium range damage decreased from 30 to 20. Longest range damage decreased from 20 to 15.
• Consequently, suppressed close range damage decreased from 32 to 20. Suppressed medium range damage decreased from 25 to 18. Suppressed longest range damage decreased from 15 to 13.
• Amped close range damage decreased from 45 to 35. Amped medium range damage decreased from 35 to 25. Amped longest range damage decreased from 25 to 17.

Wingman Elite

• Base ammo capacity decreased from 6 rounds to 4 rounds. Extended ammo capacity decreased from 8 rounds to 6 rounds.
  Entertainingly, the model was not updated to reflect this.
• Close range damage decreased from 75 to 50.
• Amped close range damage increased from 90 to 95. Amped medium range damage decreased from 75 to 70. Amped longest range damage increased from 45 to 55.

SA-3 Mozambique

• Firerate decreased from 3 r/s to 2.5 r/s (180 RPM to 150 RPM).

B3 Wingman

• Close range damage decreased from 55 to 40. Medium range damage decreased from 45 to 40.
• Amped close range damage decreased from 90 to 50. Amped medium range damage increased from 50 to 55? Amped longest range damage increased from 35 to 40.

Archer

• Can no longer lock onto cloaked targets, regardless of Pilot or NPC.

Smart Pistol

• Can no longer lock onto cloaked targets, regardless of Pilot or NPC.

Stalkers

• Damage dealt from running over a Stalker in your Titan has been decreased from 1250 to just 500 (1/2 a bar to 1/5 a bar).
• HP has been decreased from 250 to 150.

All Titans

• Overcore will now deploy your Titan with 20% core charge instead of 30%.
• Electric Smoke is mow earned at 20% core charge instead of 25%.

Ronin

• Sword Block's effectiveness has been decreased by 5%, meaning that it will now block 70% of damage and 85% in Sword Core, decreased from 75% and 90%.

Scorch

• Now has 1 base dash, with a cooldown of 10 seconds. Equipping Turbo Engine will cut that cooldown to 5 seconds (an improvement to its original cooldown of 6 seconds).
• Tempered Plating now provides complete immunity to your own thermite, and also removes Scorch's critical hit zones.
• Wildfire Launcher now increases the impact damage of the Thermite Launcher from 800 to 1000.
• The trails from Flame Core when using the Scorched Earth kit have an increased duration, from 1 second to 1.5 seconds.

Legion

• Now has 1 base dash, with a cooldown of 10 seconds. Equipping Turbo Engine will cut that cooldown to 5 seconds (an improvement to its original cooldown of 6 seconds).
• Power Shots with Hidden Compartment equipped do 15% less damage to Titans, meaning 1800 damage decreased from 2000.
  With Close Range mode, this means each pellet will be doing 112.5 damage instead of 125.
  With Long Range mode, this only affects the impact damage. The explosion will still do its full 1800 damage to Titans.
  

Ion

• Critical Hits with Entangled Energy now restore 30 damage, or 8 when split, increased from 20 and 5.
• Frontier Defense only: Splitter Cannon damage globally increased by 10%.
• Frontier Defense only: Laser Shot damage against Titans increased by 25%.
• Frontier Defense only: Laser Core damage globally increased by 45%.

Monarch

• Energy Siphon now decreases your movement speed to 70% base speed and turning speed to 80%, less severe than the original 50% movement speed and 65% turn speed (which are still the case with any other EMP such as Arc Grenades).
• Arc Rounds shield drain against Vortex and Flame Shields decreased from 5% per round to 3.3%.
• Frontier Defense only: XO-16 damage against Titans decreased by 20%.
• Frontier Defense only: Salvo Rocket damage against infantry decreased by 20%.
• Frontier Defense only: MTMS damage damage globally decreased by 20%.

Fixes and Other Changes

• Grenade indicators will be constantly visible again.
• Fixed Scorch being unable to ignite his gas with the Flame Core. You're welcome! 😉
• The transitions between menus for your Titan and Pilot loadouts have comfy and smooth camera movement now.
• Improvements to the Pilot Weapons and Titan stats screens, with the models in-engine so you can kiss them. Comparisons here.

Future Content

• Decent chance that the next Frontier Defense maps are Angel City and Eden, judging by them already having (temporary) names for their waves.
• There's some stuff in the backend for Private Match settings that suggest you might be able to play Frontier Defense in there some time.
• Entitlement entries for a "Titanfall 2 Ultimate Edition" and "Titanfall 2 Jumpstarter Kit" have been released, presumably being the game bundled with some quantity of DLC.
• The next Pilot Execution will be for the Amped Wall. Who'da thunk. I actually found the animations a while ago, but there is now code in the execution script that is loading the AWall disc a prop, so it's extra confirmed.
  No indication of what the unlock condition will be yet.

 

[NullPointer]

Played 3-4 matches of FD and had, predictably, a blast. And I'm just getting into Scorch right as his buffs drop.

This game...

Scorch has never let me down.

 

[JaMarco]

The aim-assist nerf is so good. Makes it so much easier to fly around the maps. And now smgs/shotguns are actually usable.

 

[eizarus]

Wow. Frontier Destruction is amazing! I expected it to be a fairly straight forward horde mode (went into the mode blind).

I don't usually buy cosmetics in a game, but I feel almost obliged to do so with how much love and effort Respawn put into this game.

 

[Skyball Paint]

NERFING DOES NOT MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN. There will be another gun that everyone uses and is considered best.

Depends on what you nerf

Phase shifters were incredibly frustrating to fight against, because they could turn invisible/invincible twice in a single engagement. Nerfed, it's still powerful because it's a "get out of jail free" card, you just have to use it more judiciously now.

Scorch has never let me down.

Out of curiosity, did you not find it a struggle to use Scorch on maps like Homestead?

 

[E92 M3]

I hate you, Respawn

Good man. I bought the 'Murica Alternator.

Specific changes
https://github.com/Syampuuh/Titanfall2#latest-client-changes

I don't even use most of those things and the list makes me sad. So many nerfs.

Depends on what you nerf

Phase shifters were incredibly frustrating to fight against, because they could turn invisible/invincible twice in a single engagement. Nerfed, it's still powerful because it's a "get out of jail free" card, you just have to use it more judiciously now.



Out of curiosity, did you not find it a struggle to use Scorch on maps like Homestead?

I agree, but more often than not, nerfs leave many unhappy. I don't use phase shift, but imagine this will negatively affect the people that do.



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On another note: Respawn, will you release a patch for the Xbox One X?

 

[Strangelove77]

Are there too many guns in the game? I felt like there were too many. I never got accustomed to any of them during the campaign. I would just grab whatever because I forgot the names of them.

And that carried over into pvp. I have no idea what the best guns are. Chances are I'm hindering myself without realizing it by picking crappy guns.
Anyone mind informing me what guns are best for pvp?

 

[Ozorov]

Is the co-op mode live on PS4?

Have to download this if it is

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

I must admit to not being particularly excited for Frontier Defense, but I'm pretty blown away. They put way more thought into it than I expected and it really shows.

Are there too many guns in the game? I felt like there were too many. I never got accustomed to any of them during the campaign. I would just grab whatever because I forgot the names of them.

And that carried over into pvp. I have no idea what the best guns are. Chances are I'm hindering myself without realizing it by picking crappy guns.
Anyone mind informing me what guns are best for pvp?

There are no more guns than there needs to be, imo. There are very few straight dupes. If you want something basic and well-rounded, the R-201, R-101, or CAR would do that. The higher skill ceiling weapons are the Kraber and the grenadier class weapons. Anything else has specific strengths and weaknesses, but there are no weapons that are just "the best".

 

[SmartWaffles]

I don't even use most of those things and the list makes me sad. So many nerfs.

I agree, but more often than not, nerfs leave many unhappy. I don't use phase shift, but imagine this will negatively affect the people that do.

On another note: Respawn, will you release a patch for the Xbox One X?

Any long time G2 and PS user will agree that they are way, way too strong and the nerf is very reasonable.

Also it has been confirmed it will have a XOX patch, goes up to 6K resolution even.

 

[E92 M3]

Any long time G2 and PS user will agree that they are way, way too strong and the nerf is very reasonable.

Also it has been confirmed it will have a XOX patch, goes up to 6K resolution even.

Sweet, somehow I missed that.

 

[Izuna]

Mozambique only got a firerate nerf! Yes Queen. I knew it was still....
(Don't nerf)


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OH AND I ALMOST FORGOT. THE RADAR IN FD IS BAE. NO RED FLASHES!

 

[Psychoward]

I dislike how you have to pay for the titan camos/warpaints whatever that change icons when you beat higher difficulties :/

I wish that specific part was just an emblem that could be applied to any skin and separate from paint.

 

[HellforLeather]

War Games seems harder than other maps?

I played a handful of rounds last night and only got dumped into Homestead and War Games.

We won every single match of Homestead and lost every match of War Games.

The biggest difference for me was that its much harder to see the damn ticks and drones. Also those mortar titans are a much bigger pain in the ass than the Nuke titans in Homestead.

 

[schwabdizzle]

I am disappointed the EPG or Softball didn't get no skin love :-(

 

[OdysseusVA]

I am disappointed the EPG or Softball didn't get no skin love :-(

Data mined files had warpaint entries for all pilot weapons

 

[Triforce141]

I find it odd that Angel City was the map Respawn used to tease Frontier Defense on the roadmap, yet it wasn't one of the release maps for said mode

Maybe next update?

 

[OdysseusVA]

I find it odd that Angel City was the map Respawn used to tease Frontier Defense on the roadmap, yet it wasn't one of the release maps for said mode



Maybe next update?

Angel City and Eden could be next up

 

[schwabdizzle]

Data mined files had warpaint entries for all pilot weapons

Good because I fully committed to the Grenadier class weapons and it it a game changer especially on consoles

 

[potatohead]

Just played this for first time yesterday, PS4 Pro.

Extremely impressed with the SP. Some of the best SP FPS I've ever played for sure, very happy with it. Will jump on the co-op sometime today probably.

Very happy with the purchase, great $20 spent for sure, great game.

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

Just played this for first time yesterday, PS4 Pro.

Extremely impressed with the SP. Some of the best SP FPS I've ever played for sure, very happy with it. Will jump on the co-op sometime today probably.

Very happy with the purchase, great $20 spent for sure, great game.

Shit. I ordered Rainbow Six Siege but I've been thinking on cancelling my order to get this one.


I don't know what to do

 

[schwabdizzle]

Shit. I ordered Rainbow Six Siege but I've been thinking on cancelling my order to get this one.


I don't know what to do

Dude, TF2.

 

[Bornstellar]

Data mined files had warpaint entries for all pilot weapons

Gimme my Kraber skin. My love deserves something special to wear.

 

[SmartWaffles]

My back really hurts lol. Scorch is a beast on Rise.

 

[tearsintherain]

Loving the new Frontier Defense mode, first game never even know this was a thing happening but so much fun. Feels like it re-energizes the titans for me, I had my set for PVP but this mode completely changes around what kind of things you need.

That healing titan seems amazing and a must have for a successful game. Funnest part was not realizing the nuclear titans explode so quickly, got stuck in between 2 or 3 dying titans and couldn't make it out once

Also very cool how you can shoot at stuff as your pilot is being flown in.

 

[JaMarco]

Also very cool how you can shoot at stuff as your pilot is being flown in.

Love that part. They should expand more on stuff like that in the next game, vehicles other than Titans.

 

[Grisby]

War Games seems harder than other maps?

Yeah, seems that way to me. Also, can't seem to join a game at the start.

Mode is a lotta fun though and big thanks to Respawn for getting it out. For free no less.

 

[Triforce141]

I bought both Titan Frontier Camo and Prime Titan bundles thinking I can use both at the same time... should've asked if they did first

Maybe it could be fixed if a Monarch Prime comes out and Respawn repaints all of the purchasable camo to be compatible with Prime Titans

Edit: I just found out Northstar's Tether Trap can kill, my auto-titan crushed me with one during a match

 

[Marc]

Loving the additional content, not so much the nerfs as you constantly have to re-learn the game and goal posts always shifting to take away stuff you like. Instead of giving something to those who want more.

Really appreciate the way respawn are handling this game in terms of content though. I am against DLC as a concept. I think I have bought 3 items or games in my life, 2 of them were for the OG Xbox. Thinking about buying something as these devs surely deserve it.

I really can't understand how this game isn't more popular, except for the skill gap. But even the single player is epic as fuck and deserving of peoples money.

Frontier Defense adding even more value to the game. Although I wish there was a pilots only mode, no titans, more soldiers, and a boss titan to fight at the end or something.

Wtf, hope you guys are happy with all of these nerfs. This is why we will never have a game like MW2 again. I thought Respawn was smarter than to just nerf everything for the "sake of weapon diversity."

I want to use SMGs, why make them worse? How does that please players such as myself?

Seems like being the "loudest" member is the only way to get Respawn's attention. Damn, I'm pissed. They pulled a Bungie with these patch notes: "we fucked up these weapons, please use others."

Respawn, please tell me what's wrong with people using the guns they want whenever they want? Weapon diversity was perfectly fine since launch - people did their own thing. Why must everything be nerfed? People will cry no matter what (yes I am bitching now) - don't make the game worse for everyone that was enjoying it. I spent a lot of money because I supported your vision for TF2. A nerf-fest is the last thing I wanted.

NERFING DOES NOT MAKE THE GAME MORE FUN. There will be another gun that everyone uses and is considered best.

Agreed.

I understand balancing but why not buff other weapons instead? Making a weapon useless so you stop using it doesn't seem like a good solution to me. Flatline got another nerf? Unless you're top tier, it is essentially useless for close to mid range fighting. How many left to use the weapon? Like 5% of the player base? I've switched to the spitfire now as its the closest I could find to the same feel, trying the alternator a bit too after seeing how amazing gamesager is with it.

And honestly when I was playing prior to some away time, it seemed everyone knew guns like the G2 and Devastation were godly so it made it better when you bested those players. And I was fairly decent so would avoid using them. The flatline was admittedly in the second tier from what I understand but inaccurate so took a bit of skill to compensate at least.

The phase shift you could say was overpowered but that is again when looking at the best players who would bounce around like loons and use phase shift to attack. Where as I imagine most players, like myself, use it to get away. Which would be useful in this co-op mode, I died forgetting about the nerf and trying to phase away from attacking a titan. :/ Also good for the team as I would phase shift to go take out a turret for people. Fuck doing that now. Have to look at something else I guess. Stuff like that tends to kill your love for the multiplayer, which is why I am so against nerfs. Made me stop playing Battlefront. Making something worse so they use it less doesn't help with balance long term, they'll just find something else (or leave) and the complaining will continue. If you buff the weapons of those complaining though, everyone's happy.

Anyway to end positively, like I said, in terms of content and support Respawn are awesome. Love the game, love the devs and community is always helpful (although small and quiet compared to others).

 

[LaunchpadMcQ]

My back really hurts lol. Scorch is a beast on Rise.

What'd you do to get so many support points?

 

[grendelrt]

Ugh Frontier defense is factoring into stats for player vs player on the stats page. It completely bombed out my K/D for the last 10 games. Why would they include stats for a game mode that doesnt have other player characters....

 

[Will the Thrill]

Really loving Frontier Defense! Already put 4 hours into the game since it came out. Only thing I wish would change is the Mini Map in FD, it's just too huge as is lol

 

[Pegasus Actual]

Shit. I ordered Rainbow Six Siege but I've been thinking on cancelling my order to get this one.


I don't know what to do

On the bright side Siege is the best multiplayer shooter of all time. But it's not very casual or forgiving. And it's best played with a regular group.

 

[Izuna]

Ugh Frontier defense is factoring into stats for player vs player on the stats page. It completely bombed out my K/D for the last 10 games. Why would they include stats for a game mode that doesnt have other player characters....

Are you sure about this? I died a bunch but my K/D stayed at 2.5 before and after my PS4 session.

Maybe it only affects last 10 games.