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TLOU Remastered: 30 fps option gives better shadow quality [Up: Comparison GIF in OP]
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the_batman
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for what?
Screenshots. They might change your mind ever so slightly.
For?
Metalingus5150
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Someone should get their PS3 copy ready for screenshotting.
the_batman
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lol, thanks but that's not going to happen. 60fps >>>>>>>> better shadows
unless you're talking about something else.
HORRORSHØW
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hilarious typos are hilarious
Lord of Castamere
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You're using the 30fps of forum options. I thought you should know.
Paracelsus
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It's not even in the same league, no contest. 60fps can definitely be felt and it improves the experience, barely less jagged shadows have a meaning after you dealt with framerate, aliasing, models and textures. Then, eventually, there's shadows.
mercenar1e
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thanks for the concern but I'm not changing gay lol
That's incredibly weird looking :|
It's actually pretty damn distracting in that pic.
James Sawyer Ford
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Are you just going to be posting worst case scenarios? There's a very wide range of comparisons to be made, so I don't think it's really beneficial in focusing on outliers.
In regards to this,
I obviously can't know for sure, but it's much more likely that this is a bug, not working as intended. I'd expect it to get fixed on launch, if not soon after.
You should check out the 42 page thread of people vehemently arguing about Dark Souls not having a pause button.
I obviously can't know for sure, but it's much more likely that this is a bug, not working as intended. I'd expect it to get fixed on launch, if not soon after.
You should check out the 42 page thread of people vehemently arguing about Dark Souls not having a pause button.
In regards to this,
I obviously can't know for sure, but it's much more likely that this is a bug, not working as intended. I'd expect it to get fixed on launch, if not soon after.
That looks atrocious. And according to some posts in the past few pages wrinkles have
been removed/diminished as well. Add that to the list I made earlier.
GG Naughty Dog, GG. You had one job.
Arne, I know you frequent these threads. Is ND aware of these issues?
I asked earlier, but will there be more patches to come following release?
Is the unpolished nature of this port the reason why you guys have withheld/embargoed
information/footage this close to release?
Okay. Thanks Bill Nye.
Backfoggen
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"Digital Foundry: TLOU Remastered |OT| You must also be really bad in social situations."
James Sawyer Ford
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So you are going to focus on worst case scenarios rather than presenting a more reasonable typical comparison? As if we needed any more drama in this thread.
Extreme cases. Just for you, babe.
Metalingus5150
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Are we gonna have to go to craveonline just to see the pictures? >.>
CambriaRising
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Do you even have to ask?
It works just as it was written.In regards to this,
I obviously can't know for sure, but it's much more likely that this is a bug, not working as intended. I'd expect it to get fixed on launch, if not soon after.
Calculating the secondary bounce for light in low resolution buffer is due to the fact that there might be >~50 point lights to create the effect in that small area.
If they want to fix the 'resolution problem' they would need to change how they did it.
IE. perhaps render to texture with unique UV set instead of lighting scene in low resolution buffer.
I'm sure that they have done something quite different for their future games. (no more ps3 limitations.)
Whistle.
Wishmaster92
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Wishmaster92
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JLeack was right. Missing shadows in 60fps
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JLeack was right. Missing shadows in 60fps
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Jesus Christ. This settles it, 30fps is the definitive version. Disappointing as hell.
Wishmaster92
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Edit: lolwut? Now i see missing shadows in 30fps instead of 60
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Edit: lolwut? Now i see missing shadows in 30fps instead of 60
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Seems barely noticeable. I'll stick with 60.
Could be peter panning, all missing shadows seem to be close to their occluders.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee416324(v=vs.85).aspx
Might be fixable with a patch.
Wishmaster92
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Edit: lolwut? Now i see missing shadows in 30fps instead of 60
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They should have just delayed this a couple months. Why did they think this was
acceptable for release?! Is the QA budget non-existent?
Wishmaster92
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Here it is again....
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Where? Those screens look pretty much identical?
Jesus christ. Hyperbole incarnate.
They wanted to keep the look close to the original game, changing shadow rendering method wouldn't have given that.
Also shadow maps are tricky beasts, there is reason why film industry is pretty much moved away from them.
Outside the obvious resolution artifacts the look 60hz mode gives is actually more realistic as it appears to be more filtered. (sun is 0.5 degrees in size after all.
)LowlySmokeGuy
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Do you want every game to be delayed all the time? Because they all have faults.
Interesting
Watch the first video to see the shadow flickering. Sorry about the compression. If you play the game you'll see it a few times when the shadows are thin.
Look again. About 30%~ of the ridges on buildings only have shadows at 30 FPS.
I have many more screenshots of this but wanted to keep it moderately simple.
Wishmaster92
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Another good one.
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bananafactory
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LowlySmokeGuy
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The jaggy shadows are a bit annoying, but I'm having trouble seeing the missing ones unless it is specifically pointed out to me. Definitely going with 60 fps.
Look under the ridges of buildings. It helps to have an image of each open in separate tabs so you can toggle and see it more easily.
Wishmaster92
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LowlySmokeGuy
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I see it now. I was just saying I was having trouble seeing it before it was highlighted for me.
Metalingus5150
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So both framerate options have missing shadows.
This better be patched.
This better be patched.
bananafactory
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I don't understand what's happening with the missing shadows. They always seem to be along ridges for buildings, and it seems like sometimes they're there and sometimes they aren't.
Anyone have a clue what we're looking at? Is this a glitch or something that was intentionally removed?
Anyone have a clue what we're looking at? Is this a glitch or something that was intentionally removed?
Here's an obvious case of missing shadows. Look on the left side of the image. Nothing changed in the environment, and this isn't the only spot where you see this.
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I totally missed that. Good call!
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I totally missed that. Good call!
bananafactory
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Here's an obvious case of missing shadows. Look on the left side of the image. Nothing changed in the environment, and this isn't the only spot where you see this.
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That's not just missing shadows...it looks like the light hitting that section is totally different. The hell?
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