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Today is D Day

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
June 6, 1944. It's been 76 years.

Not to get overly sappy, but it was one of the bravest acts of heroism in the history of this planet. To turn the war this invasion needed to be a success. I've heard veterans who were part of the invasion say the only way to mentally prepare for this invasion was to come to terms with the fact that they were all going to die, otherwise they would never have been able to function with any hope.

When I think about the kinds of shit people get pissed off about today and the overuse of the term "Nazi" for every Joe Schmoe who has a different opinion. Go and ask veterans who survived that day what they think a Nazi is. People who sacrificed everything in one of the most daring missions in the history of planet earth to defeat that enemy. Thinking about that day often keeps me grounded on what true heroism and evil is.

Love and respect to everyone who fought and died on that day taking down the most evil regime to ever walk our planet.
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Unimaginable how Hitler had came to such power and force that he could literally manage to set up camps with the sole use for murdering people he hated, all through his various torture methods

Does anybody know history well? How in the fuck did he manage that? I’d like to read a book that details it, because it might happen similarly one day. You never know what is ahead
 

Cutty Flam

Banned
Rest in Peace to the brave souls not only who fought in that war, but all brave souls who ever lived—man, animal, or any other sentient life form that fought to achieve their dreams, for a better life for themselves and others. It takes an immense amount of courage to do so
 
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nikolino840

Member
Unimaginable how Hitler had came to such power and force that he could literally manage to set up camps with the sole use for murdering people he hated, all through his various torture methods

Does anybody know history well? How in the fuck did he manage that? I’d like to read a book that details it, because it might happen similarly one day. You never know what is ahead
All i know Is that Hitler was upset for the results of the great war
But Hitler never ordered any violence act or killing...Is like the mafia bosses...
 
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Foamy

Unconfirmed Member
My grandfather faught in France Belgium and Germany.
He made it home in one piece but was never the same after. My mother told me he would scream things like "Jerry on the bridge" and "artillery incoming" at the top of his lungs in his sleep. Apparently one time an airplane flew low over their house years after the war and when he heard the engine he dove under the the kitchen table.
Horrible thing war.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
Unimaginable how Hitler had came to such power and force that he could literally manage to set up camps with the sole use for murdering people he hated, all through his various torture methods

Does anybody know history well? How in the fuck did he manage that? I’d like to read a book that details it, because it might happen similarly one day. You never know what is ahead
Do you mean how did he get into power or how did he rise to such power once he became chancellor(then soon fuhrer).

He got into power largely due to the stock market crash in the US and the great depression crushed global economy, and mass poverty and economic collapse was a big reason how the Nazis got into power. Before that they still were not the majority party, the Nazis actually were largely forgotten once Hitler got out of prison for the attempted coup at the beer hall putsch.

Then they pushed propaganda hard and regained a following, but people still thought of Hitler as kind of a joke until the great depression happened. In times of desperation they turned to a different voice. Then Hitler actually turned their economy around once he got into power in the short term by building roads and providing jobs to stimulate the economy. Once he became chancellor he basically used force and burning the Reichstag to sieve power and eliminate political opponents and wrote the Enabling Act to make himself a god.

But once he got into power it was a perfect cocktail of pussy European nations either being too dumb to take him seriously or too afraid to go to war. The war basically would have ended before they invaded France, the Germans were sitting ducks as they marched toward France and they could have been easily overtaken from the air, but France fucked up and miscalculated. Blitzkrieg was a very effective tactic against their enemies, many were not prepared for it. Then once they started conquering nations, they build the camps and put them to work, while mass producing munitions and tanks themselves.

Short summary, but that's somewhat of a gist of it.
 
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nikolino840

Member
Um... he did actually. Where do you get your info?
Books or docu don't Remember exactly where...but i Remember that there's no proof or signs in any documents or some public speeches about racial laws or concentration camps...the propaganda made all the work,of course he made all the things,but like the mafia bosses in trials there's no evidence of criminal acts
(Like Al Capone)

For example look the start of the war in the east... Hitler made a fake incident to not declare war First

Maybe i am wrong..Is Just something that i Remember
 

PanzerAzel

Member
Absolute heroes all those men were. Are there any still living or has the last D-day vet passed on? I was very lucky and privileged enough to have met one many years ago at an event in D.C. Didn’t think it best to ask about his experiences, and was just happy to be able to shake his hand and express my thanks.

If there’s one thing in time I wish I could go back in time and witness, watching the massive armada cross the channel would definitely be up there. Simply from a logistical perspective it’s difficult to fathom.

RIP to all those who sacrificed.
 

nikolino840

Member
Um... he did actually. Where do you get your info?
But not take my words as Truth...docu in TV are not trusty :D

But i have found this about the Gestapo

Gestapo army was free to do everything without laws or something,so if someone ask to Hitler something he could reply "i have never ordered to kill that guy"

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On February 10, 1936, the Nazi Reichstag passed the 'Gestapo Law' which included the following paragraph: "Neither the instructions nor the affairs of the Gestapo will be open to review by the administrative courts." This meant the Gestapo was now above the law and there could be no legal appeal regarding anything it did.

Indeed, the Gestapo became a law unto itself. It was entirely possible for someone to be arrested, interrogated and sent to a concentration camp for incarceration or summary execution, without any outside legal procedure.

Justice in Hitler's Germany was completely arbitrary, depending on the whim of the man in power, the man who had you in his grip. The legal policy as proclaimed by Hitler in 1938 was: "All means, even if they are not in conformity with existing laws and precedents, are legal if they subserve the will of the Führer."
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Onikaan

Member
My grandfather was involved in the British Army's invasion of Gold Beach on D-day. He was an RE under the 79th Armoured Division. Part of a crew of 6 that operated a Churchill AVRE. At some point during the war the tank was hit, and he was the only one pulled out alive. He couldn't talk about the war, certainly not to my grandmother. He's gone now. I miss him greatly, and I'm very proud to have known him, even though I was a child when he was alive.
 
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Hulk_Smash

Banned
Unimaginable how Hitler had came to such power and force that he could literally manage to set up camps with the sole use for murdering people he hated, all through his various torture methods

Does anybody know history well? How in the fuck did he manage that? I’d like to read a book that details it, because it might happen similarly one day. You never know what is ahead

Also to add to what others have said, my understanding is that the gestapo were initially made up of thugs and former political prisoners. We talk about our cops being“thugs” while Hitler actually hired thugs.

So, it wasn’t too difficult for them to carry out mass incarceration and mass murder on orders of the fuhrer.

And once the invasions were in full swing, it was easier to just say it was all in the name of winning the war.
 
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Doom85

Member
I admit my viewing of pre-70's film isn't that big, but The Longest Day is among them and it's a GREAT film. If you haven't seen it and have an appreciation for war films, I definitely recommend it.
 

DragoonKain

Neighbours from Hell
That's what I heard from a historian in some interview as well just a few days ago.
Hitler actually didn't order the jews to be gassed himself, but that he was surely aware of that happening.
Take that with caution, though, not sure how accurate all of that is.
I mean he asked for it, they just talked about it in code, and held meetings in secret. That’s why it was dubbed “the final solution to the Jewish question” because they knew if these atrocities got out globally(and locally) it would galvanize even more people against them than there already were.

Hitler ordered it, he just distanced himself from it as much as he could and basically charged Himmler, Heydrich and others to organize it, but he was apprised of all developments. Goering was actually like the only one not to support it because he had a Jewish godfather, but it’s not like he cared enough to speak up about it or anything.
 
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Basically, Hitler did what the Romans, Jim Jones and Charles Manson did, but on a massive scale.

I would highly recommend watching his speeches on YouTube. He is one of, if not the greatest orator capture on film. He was also a fucking dick.

OT: Thanks for your sacrifices you glorious bastards. Sorry that we have failed you in living up to keeping the world a free and peaceful place to live.
 
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TaySan

Banned
Thank you grandfather for your service shooting down Nazi planes. You are my hero and i miss you every day.
 
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Steve.1981

Unconfirmed Member
My papa was on the AA defence guns during the Battle of Britain, then after we went on the offensive he travelled through Africa chasing the war. He died when I was a boy, so I heard his stories from my dad.

My mum's uncle (who I was closer to than anyone in my family, including my own uncles) drove a tank through both Africa & Italy. He saw some horrors, but never let it change him outwardly. He was a good man, always came to our house for Christmas dinner & I miss him badly. He left me his medals & stars after he died & I keep them in his memory.

I loved that generation dearly. Grew up working in my dad's garage & spent a lot of my time around those men. Listening to them. Hopefully learning. They lived through darkness & came out of it with a dignity that is now almost gone from the world they saved.
 
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