Tom Brady's Suspension Appeal News
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DrForester
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Elwood Blues
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This move reminds me of how the patriots indefinitely suspended Jim McNally and John Jastremski to try and sweep deflategate under the rug, and to shift the narrative away from Brady.
friskykillface
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Lol nah, the rich people at the games don't cheer or anything, foxboro high class
It sucks though , I want a crazy crowd
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TheLostBigBoss
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right, because it's odd for companies to suspend people who are under investigation with possible wrongdoing.
So strange and not at all different from a major NFL director being directly tied to leaking false info for the soul purpose of damaging an image.
Then again everyone has made up their minds, no point in trying to talk to someone who is so partial about everything.
Elwood Blues
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Tom Brady was also under investigation for possible wrong doing. Is it odd the company didn't suspend him and just two people that on one had ever heard of before.
TheLostBigBoss
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The Jets kicker wasn't suspended while there was an investigation, only his personal was.
Usually it's the lesser people who are thrown under the bus, no franchise in their right mind would ever suspend a QB over an equipment violation.
pixel monkey
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Free him from what exactly? The guy has cheated well before the AFC Title game last year according to the Wells Report by ordering the deflation of game balls for the past few years, he lied to NFL investigators, and he destroyed evidence to cover it up.
He, and his organization with a history of cheating, should be grateful that he only received a four game suspension.
According to Shefter the league asked:
Goodell denies this, but the fact that the NFL needs to approve them being reinstated, that Shefter is standing by his statement and that the NFL hasn't been the most forthright in this whole issue, I tend to believe Shefter.
He was never on that website:
https://twitter.com/benvolin/status/627898675080114176
See Google's cache version from July 26: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...s/the-nfl-ops-team/+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de
Volin is absolute garbage. I'll wait for a legit source before trusting anything that guy has to say.
I have posted a link to Google's cache version of the same site from July 26 (i.e. a week ago), that shows Kensil was never on that website.
TheLostBigBoss
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yea, multiple cache results show he was never on the site's page.
Didn't see the cache link my bad, but for future reference you should never post anything Volin says. Guy repeatedly gets facts wrong just to be out first, and is extremely unreliable.
I don't know why everyone thinks it was Kensil, or even only Kensil. Mortensen states it was multiple league sources.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/02/in-january-mort-told-weei-he-reconfirmed-psi-info/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/02/in-january-mort-told-weei-he-reconfirmed-psi-info/
The Albatross
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Bah, the same stadium where a guy was stabbed, died, and was peed on by drunks in the 70s. No thanks. I'll take safe Gillette where you can bring a kid go without much fear of him being puked on to old foxboro with its open air bleachers and metal benches.
Acerac
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It's cool to be jealous of Brady. No need to hate on him because of your envy.
I don't know that I've seen a poster who said things like this and turned out to not be ignorant of the evidence and circumstance. This is like a big "I don't actually know what's happening" flag.
People think it's Kensil because a WEEI show host claimed to have a source saying that it was Kensil who leaked it to the NFL. The person who leaked it supposedly has a tight relationship with the Kraft family, and some over a Pats forum were speculating that his source could possibly be Jonathan Kraft. Let me see if I can find the links.
Edit: Found the Link
So where in the report did it say Brady ordered deflation of game balls? Also, while you are at it, tell us which page/paragraph it says that Brady lied to the investigators?
Dennis isn't very tight into the scene. It was obvious he got it somewhere else. Mort on the other hand looked like an obvious coward because he needed the bigger outlet.
Has Mort denied it was Kensil? It has been since Friday ...
Got it! More probable than not.
DrForester
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But that's not what he did. He reported some false PSI numbers that greatly influenced public perception of this whole thing.
He was lied too, at the time he reported he had no idea it was wrong especially if he sources were high up in the NFL, and since it has been reported as wrong he probably is being asked by ESPN to keep his mouth shut. He really is stuck between and rock and hard place.
DrForester
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He should out his source. Whoever it was is a liar and manipulated EPSN for their own purposes. Why would they want to protect that?
I would hazard a guess that ESPN is more concerned about it's relationship with the NFL, otherwise everything you say is correct.
ESPN is the puppet of the NFL, no one should be surprised by any of this.
http://www.stradleylaw.com/deflategate-legal-faqs-settlement/
She suggests the best result for all parties is no suspension, no admission of guilt and maybe a fine.
She suggests the best result for all parties is no suspension, no admission of guilt and maybe a fine.
No one can back down.
If NFL backs down it encourages more players to take them to court. The players gave the commish these powers. He is going to keep using them until a new CBA changes something.
If the Pats back down they are labeled as cheaters x 2.
The major claim by the patriots is that he isn't abiding by the CBA. They don't want him to fix the agreement, they want him to stick to it.
Why would Goodell ever agree to that?
He would only agree if he knew he was going to lose. Even then I think he would rather get a decision saying that instead of admitting it.
I only see a settlement if Brady admits to it to save 1-2 games of the suspension.
CitizenCope
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You can take a nap while the Pats are on D. That's saying something. The fans do seem to show up for the AFC championships though.
You said the players gave the commissioner these powers. They did not, so your conclusion that the agreement needs to be changed is incorrect.
I have no idea what Goodell will or won't want to do, but I do know that by most accounts the NFLPA's position is a good one.
I agree that both sides have cornered themselves in terms of negotiation, but as to the bolded, they're already getting taken to court regularly (and losing) on suspending high-profile players in cases that don't involve either a substance abuse or PED violation. If the NFL wants less of these cases, they should set up a system where there is proper adjudication and reasonable penalties.
I think one interesting thing I got from reading Stradley's analysis linked above is that by settling, the NFL can avoid this case being used against them in the future. Seems to me to be one of the few incentives for the NFL to back down at all.
teruterubozu
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Happy Birthday Tom Brady!
There's is no evidence supporting any of that. He was well within his right to destroy his phone and only did so after Wells said he didn't need it.
You, like others, have been duped by the NFL leak about the phone to make it seem like it had anything to do with the investigation.
Instead of learning the facts, you have accepted the rhetoric here like others have and decided to ignored the facts based on your predisposed negative view of the Patriots organization.
Brady is asked if ordered footballs be deflated after inspection, his response: no.
Edit: 172 pages! Yikes!
Tommy Buns needs a better attorney.
They start out by seemingly admitting the Pats cheated but don't want that to extend to Tom because they can't prove he was aware or even generally aware of anything going down and further that there is no precedent for being punished for being aware of a wrongdoing.
This is not what my Pats friends have been telling me for the past few months so Tom must have gotten a moron attorney.
What are you referring to?
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