Tom Cruise says he can run 17mph.
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Mr. Spinnington
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Ecrofirt said:
Ford Prefect said:
Shinoobi said:
I'm nearly fucking sick of exaggerated TV heroes. Especially when they suck my balls [Chuck Norris].bggrthnjsus said:
Come on, can't you guys just like Superman and Transformers like all the other kids?
MrToughPants
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TheQueen'sOwn said:
:lol :lol
17mph is believable, 17 miles in an hour would be quite the feat.
MagicJackBauer
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TheQueen'sOwn said:
too bad i was referencing 28mph.
MadraptorMan
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I could run around 15 mph way back in 9th grade...so I can definitely see this as being true with no problem. I wonder if I could do better now...my legs are longer...:lol
Ninja Scooter
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Tom Cruise is one intense motherfucker so i wouldn't doubt he gets himself into great shape for a movie role.
Ninja Scooter
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Tom Cruise is a badass. I bet if for his next movie the producers were like "For this next role Tom, we need you to fly. Think you can fly?" He wouldn't even flinch look them dead in the eyes and say.
"You need me to fly? I WILL FUCKING FLY."
then he'd start laughing uncontrollably
"You need me to fly? I WILL FUCKING FLY."
then he'd start laughing uncontrollably
Mr. Spinnington
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Ninja Scooter said:
pinkatrophe
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The Shadow said:
So retarded that I initiated a debate about physics in a Hollywood film? Or I make an analogy of an explosion resulting in the transfer of heat waves reverberating on a bridge affecting the path of travel of a man's shifting body weight to two pool balls coming in contact?
Look, the fact is that physics isn't just as simple as we'd all like to believe sometimes. I don't know how the force of such a blast would reverberate or all the factors that go into calculating how someone would be propelled but simply saying that because something is weird it must inherently be wrong is pretty retarded in and of itself.
Ninja Scooter
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i don't remember giving you permission to use Phonecall Liberace dm. Expect a call from my lawyer/dentist.
hahaha this post didn't get the dap it deserves. hilarity. :lolShinoobi said:
anyways, people knockin' this clearly have never run on a track before. The guy, like him or not, is in absolutely pristine physical shape (probably better shape than 99% of us here), and a 13.5 100 isn't really that fast. That, actually, wouldn't even qualify you for anything above the D heat on my old high school track team :lol
Fresh Prince
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I would rather have Tom's babies then Jacks!MagicJackBauer said:
The Shadow
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pinkatrophe said:
1. You fail at physics *and* the English language. 2. Newtonian physics isn't complicated.
Also, all I said was that the scene didn't look right to me because someone would not fly perpendicular to a blast. Are you too busy choking on Tom's chunky jizz to comprehend that? I don't have to see someone flying from a real explosion to know that's not how it would happen, the same way I know what path a pool ball would go if I know which direction it'll get hit. It's really just that simple.
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Fresh Prince said:
that was the most homosexual comment ever.
pinkatrophe
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The Shadow said:
Oh wait, I fail at the English language because one of my sentences is too long for you to read? Obviously your logic when it comes to how explosions "should" look is as refined at your logic in English.
You're the one making this personal. I couldn't give a shit about Tom Cruise or his personal career. But insinuating the fact that I don't agree with you or care enough about the issue to bring it up in the first place is because I'm some fanboy of his is just as retarded as your argument. You say that I make ridiculous allegations because I say that such a trajectory is possible without having seen it in real life but then you base your own argument off the same lack of a real-world example? Hypocritical much? Oh wait, your evidence is two balls coming in contact with one another, right? Because surely, all reactions in physics occur in that same manner. You're pathetic, man. :lol
Manabanana
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17 MPH!
Shinoobi said:
What about running backwards?
Yes a human can run 17 MPH. Can Tom Cruise? Probably not. He's an attention whore, and will lie to you.
As for the whole physics thing - if you don't see something glaringly wrong about the way he reacts to that explosion, then you're a bad human being.
You don't need to see things in order for you to know what will happen. The greatest thing about the human brain is it's ability to recognize and utilize patterns. If you've never experienced a force acting on an object, and the object reacting to that force, then something is seriously wrong with you. You don't even need to know any formal physics - your brain does all of that automatically. You can throw a ball and aim it, can't you? You can obviously type. You are familiar with the most basic laws of physics.
Or do you just refute someone's argument because you can?
Honestly, who the fuck argues with physics?
The Shadow
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pinkatrophe said:
I *gave* a real world example. That's what the two pool balls was all about. You really do suck at English.
Actually yes. Every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction. AFAIK, that hasn't changed in, oh...more than 300 years.
MrNibbles said:
Jesus. I'm glad I'm not the only one with common fucking sense.
ForzaItalia
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I assume he was chasing Ving Rhames?
he better be able to run fast. in almost every movie he is in anymore, all u see him do is run. he runs so much in all these movies he should be the new Forest Gump.
RUN TOMMY... RUN!!!
i think his run is pretty fun/interesting to watch, in every movie he runs the same exact way. never changes it up
RUN TOMMY... RUN!!!
i think his run is pretty fun/interesting to watch, in every movie he runs the same exact way. never changes it up
Ninja Scooter said:Tom Cruise is a badass. I bet if for his next movie the producers were like "For this next role Tom, we need you to fly. Think you can fly?" He wouldn't even flinch look them dead in the eyes and say.
"You need me to fly? I WILL FUCKING FLY."
then he'd start laughing uncontrollably
there was a rumor of him being Iron Man, whenever they would make that Marvel character a movie... so maybe one day we will see him fly
:lol :lol :lol
pinkatrophe
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The Shadow said:
And you suck at reading a post in its entirety before formulating a single intelligent thought.
You're absolutely right. When I throw a paper airplane into the wind, it continues to fly straight regardless of the way the wind is blowing. And if I drop a ball on the corner of a table, it bounces back up at a 90 degree angle every time.
Oh, wait...
What happens in the film doesn't violate the equal and opposite reaction principle because, if it did, he would potentially get thrusted backwards for no obvious reason. This isn't an issue of whether it's an opposite reaction or not, but rather an issue of trajectory and other unknown factors that may influeunce it.
Am I saying that I can't understand how the physics in the film look odd to some people? No. And if I ever suggested that this is how someone would undoubtedly move in real life, then I apologize for not thinking it through enough before I hit 'submit'. My beef with you and your argument isn't that you find the explosion weird or odd, but rather that you can't even admit that the amount of factors that dictate the way something moves in space is grand. And when I state that comparing two pool balls to what occurs in an explosion where elements of wind, center of balance, etc isn't necessarily a sound comparison you resort to the vapid, unintelligent "You must just masturbate to Cruise cos you're a retard" response. You must have obviously been on the debate team. It's when childish comments like that get posted that I get intolerant as fuck, regardless of how sound or unsound your argument may be.
Escape Goat
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With Xenu, anything is possible.
Bearillusion
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acidviper said:
Could? Sure. Need to? No.
Warm Machine
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Pergaps none of you notice just how in shape Tom Cruise is. The man's job is to be in top condition. In M:I 1 the guy had massive pipes.
pinkatrophe: Are you suggesting that atmospheric effects produced enough force to accelerate a 150+ lb body to considerable airborne speed? This isn't a gnat we're talking about, and neither is it over a prolonged distance or time.
Mind you, this is not the explosion we're talking about. That vector is what throws him off his feet and away from the blast. What I'm talking about is the vector that makes him fly perpundicular to the blast and into a car.
Mind you, this is not the explosion we're talking about. That vector is what throws him off his feet and away from the blast. What I'm talking about is the vector that makes him fly perpundicular to the blast and into a car.
pinkatrophe
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Hitokage said:
In all honesty, I have no idea. I haven't mentioned definites in this thread because I'm not in the position to know how a real life individual would act in a situation such as that. And maybe it's just my eyes, but his motion in the air didn't seem like a clear cut lateral motion, but rather a sharp diagonal one.
In all honesty, the way the physics operate were done in the film most likely had more to do with movie magic than with real life physics. I was only suggesting that, should this happen in real life, I wouldn't assume that someone would fly straight forward under any and all circumstances / situations.
And props for addressing the inaccuracies in a mature way, this is all I ask for when communicating. I'm a man and won't shy from admitting my own faults and that the trajectory of Cruise is probably inaccurate or over-exaggerated.
videogamer
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He's saying that "heat waves" (heat radiation?) are pushing the body.Hitokage said:
pinkatrophe
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Hammy said:
Yes, that's what I was suggesting may be a factor that would influence a body's trajectory since heat waves reverberate and don't follow one singular path. But like I conceded, it probably has more to do with wanting to create a desired effect than actually being rooted in real life physics.
Either way, I still love that scene.
The Shadow
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pinkatrophe said:
You're one to talk. Allow me to illustrate...
When did I ever say that only *one* force is factored? Ever? I even explicitly explained how other factors are effectively null because they're weak relative to the main force behind it in another post.
There is a very good reason why I bolded *EVERY* just before reaction. I didn't bold *singular*. I said *EVERY*. The fact of the matter is, if he jumped to the side at the same time the van exploded *behind* him, the force of him jumping is going to look pretty small relative to the force of the explosion. I explained this already. Where you got this asinine idea that I'm only talking about one force is beyond me. I'm saying one is far more significant than the others.
This really doesn't help my impression of your english skills you know...
pinkatrophe said:
There are a lot of factors that determine how something moves. Here specifically, I don't see how a strong gust of wind, his feet on the ground, or anything else, is going to nullify the explosion immediately behind him.
I'm pretty sure I said much the same thing, if not to you but to someone else.
Again...english confidence continuing to fade....
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Mute said:
Never underestimate the power of Xenu coupled with a good pair of Nike sneakers.
pinkatrophe
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The Shadow said:
The Shadow said:
Hmm. This is the only post where you explain other factors, and by 'factors', I actually mean the singular. You only take into account the force of the way the individual would be stepping or leaning. And once again, my paper plane argument still suggests how, even with a rear thrust, other elements may inadvertantly influence the path of travel.
What? Is it upsetting to know that I can actually concede to flaws in my argument? If only certain attributes were transferrable...
Reading comprehension ftl. Once again, refer to the above post of yours that only refers to the force of jumping to one direction or another. And before you even begin to suggest that the force of a straight downward plunge in an elevator is the same as the impact of heat waves and air currents, please, stop.
I still stand by this. I'm sorry to break this blatant news to you: sometimes films contain things that look cool. If you'd rather have him fly forward and hit nothing, then that's cool. I guess the rest of us are more willing to accept a film's potential to be implausible.
videogamer
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pinkatrophe said:
Oh please take high school physics again. Shockwaves emanating from explosions come from a wave of air (something to do with pressure) not from electromagnetic thermal radiation.
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