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Tom "The Goat" Brady ain't done yet

ebevan91

Member
Couldn't he have at least waited a few days? This is gonna dominate sports TV for a few days until the NCAA tournament.
 

ChuckeRearmed

Gold Member
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I'm always annoyed when athletes tease their return after retiring only a few months prior. Conor McGregor made a damn habit out of it. TB12 should have thought hard about this and then made his final decision. He's one of the best to ever play, but he gets wet at the thought of people still talking about him.
 

SpiceRacz

Member
Dude is going to be 45 and throw for 5k yards and 40+ touchdowns again. It makes no sense. If that team can remain healthy, I'll still take them over everyone else.
 

Trogdor1123

Gold Member
I saw his states for last season and they were nothing short of awesome. He should give it another go and if he drops off then get out. He has earned the ability to call his own time
 

Corrik

Member
They probably offered him $40 or 50M.
He is under the same contract. He also regularly takes paycuts so they can build around him.

One of the funniest and most accurate memes I ever seen was.

Other QBs: How does Tom Brady do it every single year?
Tom Brady *takes paycut to let team build around him*
Others QBs: Hmmm, new record QB deal please!

Something along those lines.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
He is under the same contract. He also regularly takes paycuts so they can build around him.

One of the funniest and most accurate memes I ever seen was.

Other QBs: How does Tom Brady do it every single year?
Tom Brady *takes paycut to let team build around him*
Others QBs: Hmmm, new record QB deal please!

Something along those lines.
Ah. Thanks.

I did a quick skim of Google and it says for 2022 its $9 or $10M depending on the site. Not sure how accurate.
 
He is under the same contract. He also regularly takes paycuts so they can build around him.

One of the funniest and most accurate memes I ever seen was.

Other QBs: How does Tom Brady do it every single year?
Tom Brady *takes paycut to let team build around him*
Others QBs: Hmmm, new record QB deal please!

Something along those lines.
The counterargument is that his wife is worth half a billion and he's already accumulated a large amount of money early on. He's been talking pay cuts for over a decade to get the surrounding talent right.
 

EverydayBeast

ChatGPT 0.1
I’ll mention he never officially retired, the quarterback spot is open everywhere for Brady I love the Bucs fit, they won the super bowl and were over 500 last year obviously Rodgers went on a late season stat tear I kinda felt like Brady was the MVP.

So is it about retirement?

No Way Reaction GIF by WWE
 

Dr Bass

Member
I’ll mention he never officially retired, the quarterback spot is open everywhere for Brady I love the Bucs fit, they won the super bowl and were over 500 last year obviously Rodgers went on a late season stat tear I kinda felt like Brady was the MVP.

So is it about retirement?

No Way Reaction GIF by WWE
Being tied for the best regular season record in the league is definitely "over 500," yes. :messenger_tongue:
 

TDiddyLive

Member
Ah. Thanks.

I did a quick skim of Google and it says for 2022 its $9 or $10M depending on the site. Not sure how accurate.
With bonuses factored in it’s about $20M. A bargain compared to what some quarterbacks are making.

 
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Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Tom Brady ain't the GOAT. He routinely took less money from his employer because he knew he wasn't talented enough to win with level talent surrounding him.

Manning is the GOAT.
 

TDiddyLive

Member
Tom Brady ain't the GOAT. He routinely took less money from his employer because he knew he wasn't talented enough to win with level talent surrounding him.

Manning is the GOAT.
Typical Brady hater. So you go to Manning as the GOAT?

Do you mean Peyton, who relied completely on the defense to win a Super Bowl, throwing for 141 yards, 0 TDs, and 1 interception? Seems like he wasn’t talented enough to win without the talent surrounding him.

Or do you mean Eli, who had a career win/loss record of 117-117?
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Typical Brady hater. So you go to Manning as the GOAT?

Do you mean Peyton, who relied completely on the defense to win a Super Bowl, throwing for 141 yards, 0 TDs, and 1 interception? Seems like he wasn’t talented enough to win without the talent surrounding him.

Or do you mean Eli, who had a career win/loss record of 117-117?

I like Brady. Plus, you're referring to the Manning Superbowl when he was 40 and suffered a debilitating shoulder injury that made him throw lame ducks?

The real question you should be asking is if Peyton Manning would have ever lost a game if he played for Belichick and took team friendly contracts his whole career. We both know he'd have more rings than Bill Russell if that ever happened.
 
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Tom Brady ain't the GOAT. He routinely took less money from his employer because he knew he wasn't talented enough to win with level talent surrounding him.

Manning is the GOAT.
TB12 is the best to play the quarterback position and I can't imagine that being challenged anytime soon. As for being the GOAT of the sport overall, that's where I take a little umbrage.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
TB12 is the best to play the quarterback position and I can't imagine that being challenged anytime soon. As for being the GOAT of the sport overall, that's where I take a little umbrage.

You'll never convince me that Tom Brady would be considered the GOAT if the Cleveland Browns drafted him, or he took Peyton Manning/Aaron Roger's type money.

He's a great QB that prioritized winning over getting max money from his employers. Smart, but on a neutral playing field he's not even in the top 5. Teammates and coaching are vital to success in the NFL and Brady made sure he had the best.
 

TDiddyLive

Member
I like Brady. Plus, you're referring to the Manning Superbowl when he was 40 and suffered a debilitating shoulder injury that made him throw lame ducks?

The real question you should be asking is if Peyton Manning would have ever lost a game if he played for Belichick and took team friendly contracts his whole career. We both know he'd have more rings than Bill Russell if that ever happened.
Manning took the deal that was given to him. Playing what ifs when actual results are available is all dream talk. Nobody knows how anything would play out differently. I doubt Manning would have been as successful under Belichick but we will never know.
 
You'll never convince me that Tom Brady would be considered the GOAT if the Cleveland Browns drafted him, or he took Peyton Manning/Aaron Roger's type money.

He's a great QB that prioritized winning over getting max money from his employers. Smart, but on a neutral playing field he's not even in the top 5. Teammates and coaching are vital to success in the NFL and Brady made sure he had the best.
How could I convince you about him being the GOAT when I don't believe it myself? As for the arguments made, I'm struggling to see the logic. Most people would commend TB12 for taking less money to have more productive teammates, so how is that a knock against him? As for being drafted into Cleveland that didn't happen, he went to New England with a tremendous coach and cakewalk division. Once again those things were outside his control.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
How could I convince you about him being the GOAT when I don't believe it myself? As for the arguments made, I'm struggling to see the logic. Most people would commend TB12 for taking less money to have more productive teammates, so how is that a knock against him? As for being drafted into Cleveland that didn't happen, he went to New England with a tremendous coach and cakewalk division. Once again those things were outside his control.

It's not a knock against him, the person. It's a knock against him the football player. It was genius doing what he did. He successfully gambled that building a legacy would be more beneficial than taking as much money as possible in the short term.

The way I assess a players talent is by trying to determine which player would have the greatest impact if everyone was surrounded by iRobot replacement level players (equal playing field). Tom Brady said "F that" I want superior weapons around me so I'll take less money to insure that happens.
 
It's not a knock against him, the person. It's a knock against him the football player. It was genius doing what he did. He successfully gambled that building a legacy would be more beneficial than taking as much money as possible in the short term.

The way I assess a players talent is by trying to determine which player would have the greatest impact if everyone was surrounded by iRobot replacement level players (equal playing field). Tom Brady said "F that" I want superior weapons around me so I'll take less money to insure that happens.
Well it's a team sport, what do you expect? And the superior weapons around Brady have always varied, so even that isn't a suitable argument. You're knocking him for strategizing in a game where strategy is the main point. Many players in other sports do similar things.
 

Men_in_Boxes

Snake Oil Salesman
Well it's a team sport, what do you expect? And the superior weapons around Brady have always varied, so even that isn't a suitable argument. You're knocking him for strategizing in a game where strategy is the main point. Many players in other sports do similar things.

If you're an NFL scout in charge of drafting a college player to your team, do you...

A) Draft the college player with the most national championships, the player who benefited the most from having superior teammates?

B) Draft the best player who can most positively impact your team?

I wouldn't draft the kid who was smart enough to benefit from ideal circumstances, would you?
 
If you're an NFL scout in charge of drafting a college player to your team, do you...

A) Draft the college player with the most national championships, the player who benefited the most from having superior teammates?

B) Draft the best player who can most positively impact your team?

I wouldn't draft the kid who was smart enough to benefit from ideal circumstances, would you?
You're preaching to the choir Men_in_Boxes Men_in_Boxes . You keep talking about Brady's teammates whilst forgetting that the QB is the most important position on offence. Yes TB12 had good receivers, a top 10 defence and cakewalk division, but the QB is responsible for the offence and he's won so many Super Bowls and games. He's simply one of the best to ever do it.
 

OmegaSupreme

advanced basic bitch
All the money and the model wife aren't enough eh? At least he's not getting overpaid like Rodgers clearly is.
 
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