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[IntentionalPun]

Well as the article up top mentions, the app itself is basically the console. The console is just software. In theory, it will just be a green square you click on whatever hardware you want (PC, handheld) and it opens into an Xbox UI and has your library. Or load in other stores on PC.

The big sticking point according to this article is transitioning that older library through emulation or streaming. We're already almost at the point where any hardware will load in a similar looking Xbox UI experience. You're seeing the first steps of it on the Ally X.

All the new hardware was going to be is a PC from the surface team doing the same thing as the 3rd party ones, just made by MS themselves. It just has a Windows big picture mode so you hook it up and play relatively easily, and it integrates your libraries from Steam / GoG / Epic also.

The only actual challenge left is the Xbox console library getting transferred to Windows. It sounds like it may be a messy mixture of Play anywhere, emulation and streaming. We'll see.

That's not what a console is lol

 

[Wooxsvan]

MS as a 3rd party publisher is probably better for them, worse for most consumers, removing a console hardware option. maybe partners can fill the gap hardware wise.

 

[adamsapple]

The Verge sources tell Tom Warren Xbox is essentialy cancelling Xbox and focusing on Software

Where is this said?

Edit:

Bro.....how do we go from that to...

Tom Warren: I've heard from insiders that [Microsoft's own handheld] it's essentially canceled as the company focuses on Xbox's new software platform

Draugauth'd yet again.

I won

 

[Hookshot]

They lost me 2 gens ago. It was a slow decline after the 360 could have been built off of properly.

 

[Punished Miku]

That's not what a console is lol

That's always been what is coming. Open store windows device with an improved UI more similar to a console.

No one is expecting Steam to code differently to get all their games to run on Xbox systems. Everyone was expecting Xbox to move to Windows so you could use it along with every other store.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Go, go new narrative shift™.

Arms are getting worn out for moving all these goalposts.

 

[Topher]

Draugauth'd yet again.

Check your panties!

 

[Bonfires Down]

The only actual challenge left is the Xbox console library getting transferred to Windows. It sounds like it may be a messy mixture of Play anywhere, emulation and streaming. We'll see.

They should drop their revenue cut to 10% (same as on Windows) for legacy titles where the publisher adds Play Anywhere. That will cost them money, but if they don't have a good way of transferring Xbox libraries to PC when the time comes, it will cost them more.

 

[jm89]

That's not what a console is lol

My favourite quote when this topic comes up

If we can get them (Xbox fans) to love it, they will evangelize. - Phil Spencer

 

[Punished Miku]

They should drop their revenue cut to 10% (same as on Windows) for legacy titles where the publisher adds Play Anywhere. That will cost them money, but if they don't have a good way of transferring Xbox libraries to PC when the time comes, it will cost them more.

Yeah, I think they should suck it up and pay out publishers through generous GP deals or just payments. They have the biggest collection of studios in the industry and a PC store, sub, and cloud infrastructure and can drop the unsuccessful hardware element. Make your existing customers whole and then ride into the sunset as the biggest publisher there is.

 

[Fake]

Its official: Microsoft can't fix Windows 11.

 

[mayham2199]

They should drop their revenue cut to 10% (same as on Windows) for legacy titles where the publisher adds Play Anywhere. That will cost them money, but if they don't have a good way of transferring Xbox libraries to PC when the time comes, it will cost them more.

Will it even matter? Epic tried the same thing. Hell I think they give devs 100% for a certain amount of time and that store is still failing.

 

[adamsapple]

Check your panties!

 

[Mr Moose]

I've heard from insiders that it's essentially canceled

I thought Tom was English. He must be holding onto the L.

 

[Kacho]

Draugauth'd yet again.

 

[Bond007]

Consoles for them has been dead. We all see it.
Makes no sense to keep up this charade of slow death and promise of next gen this or that- its an insult to their fans imo. The instant they put their games on other platforms it was a done deal

 

[Bonfires Down]

Will it even matter? Epic tried the same thing. Hell I think they give devs 100% for a certain amount of time and that store is still failing.

Epic didn't have tens of millions of users with game libraries built over years and decades.

 

[Killer8]

The day I can play all my Xbox backwards compatible shit on the PC and get rid of the Series X will be a happy day indeed.

 

[bender]

And will be equally as shocked when their next console follows suit.

 

[touchfuzzy]

I would be shocked if Microsoft ever releases another piece of gaming hardware, honestly.

- Me, in May 2024.

 

[LordCBH]

Shame, barely anyone else did.

Been in the same boat with Dreamcast, it hurt back then.

I like my Series X a lot. But woof Microsoft was in no way prepared for this generation.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Well as the article up top mentions, the app itself is basically the console. The console is just software. In theory, it will just be a green square you click on whatever hardware you want (PC, handheld) and it opens into an Xbox UI and has your library. Or load in other stores on PC.

The big sticking point according to this article is transitioning that older library through emulation or streaming. We're already almost at the point where any hardware will load in a similar looking Xbox UI experience. You're seeing the first steps of it on the Ally X.

All the new hardware was going to be is a PC from the surface team doing the same thing as the 3rd party ones, just made by MS themselves. It just has a Windows big picture mode so you hook it up and play relatively easily, and it integrates your libraries from Steam / GoG / Epic also.

The only actual challenge left is the Xbox console library getting transferred to Windows. It sounds like it may be a messy mixture of Play anywhere, emulation and streaming. We'll see.

 

[Darsxx82]

I prefer playing on my Series X over my PS5. Knew this was coming, but this isnt as devastating as Sega exiting the market. If MS can figure out how to play the whole Xbox library on PC, along with my steam games, in a console like environment that ties them all together, and easy to use so my wife and kid can play games, then i'm still getting the new Xbox. Gonna wait and see how this plays out.

Logic

The Verge sources tell Tom Warren Xbox is essentialy cancelling Xbox and focusing on Software

Where is this said?

Edit:

Bro.....how do we go from that to...

Tom Warren: I've heard from insiders that [Microsoft's own handheld] it's essentially canceled as the company focuses on Xbox's new software platform

Sure you Know..

 

[adamsapple]

We need another Draugoth topic to fully comprehend.

 

[tr1p1ex]

So back to where we started 25 years ago.

MSFT spent all this time ignoring pcgaming.

 

[Topher]

- Me, in May 2024.

Me....same thread...

 

[ExtendEmbraceExtinguish]

Paywall article: https://www.theverge.com/notepad-mi...-xbox-next-gen-console-handheld-hints-notepad

Finally some good Xbox news. Hardware via oem so msft can go full software monopoly mode.

 

[Punished Miku]

This is literally what I've said all along.

Cringe Hype Platform  Post in thread '"This Is An Xbox", Microsoft's New Xbox Advert'

Nov 14, 2024

You should hate it. Xbox is a console.

It honestly isn't. Xbox is an app with a log-in. That is going to work on PC, Phone, TV, Console, Browser, Handhelds.

• Punished Miku

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News Rumor Hardware  Post in thread 'Windows Central/Jez Corden: Xbox's new hardware plans begin with a gaming handheld set for later this year, with full next-gen consoles targeting 2027'

Mar 10, 2025

So like the Legion Go I'm using Gamepass on right now, just with an Xbox sticker? I feel like the hook would be if you could access your Xbox 'console' library.

Make a little app in Windows that opens up to a Xbox dashboard.

I dream.

• Punished Miku

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Event  Post in thread 'Xbox Games Showcase Followed by The Outer Worlds 2 Direct Airs June 8'

Jun 7, 2025

As in announcing the next Xbox console? But wasn't that said to be 2027? Sounds too early. And that handheld was put on hold, wasn't it?

All that matters is explaining the future of forward compatibility and the app that will be their windows storefront. The hardware can still come in 26 / 27. People in the Xbox ecosystem need all the info though as soon as they can reliably explain it

• Punished Miku

Cringe Hype Platform  Post in thread '"This Is An Xbox", Microsoft's New Xbox Advert'

Nov 14, 2024

It's a little cringe, but it gets the message across and just keeps repeating Xbox over and over which is pretty standard marketing.

The future is the app, and the app will be everywhere. I don't hate it. Has some light humor. Nothing amazing, but it's fine.

• Punished Miku

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Rumor Hardware Platform  Post in thread '(eXtas1s) Potentially Lots of New Info on Next Xbox(es)'

May 19, 2025

This seems unnecessarily pointless

Just seems like you can make MS Store your home base. And it will probably display Steam titles alongside your library and load up Steam as an "Xbox app" like all your other apps. Just makes it easy and more console-ish, which is what Xbox players want.

• Punished Miku

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Post in thread 'Is Xbox really just a controller now?'

May 30, 2025

Controller, and an app that loads your library and GP.

• Punished Miku

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Post in thread 'Jez on the future of Xbox (rumour)'

May 2, 2024

Didn't go so well for Stadia. Maybe people like having their hardware locally.

Then buy a PC and load it up, or the handheld. Point is the common denominator is the app. That will be on PC, handheld, mobile, cloud, browser, TV. PCs will always be around so if your chosen app is on that, you've got nothing but options.

• Punished Miku

 

[touchfuzzy]

Me....same thread...

This is literally what I've said all along.

Just glad to be here with all the other geniuses. Though the Edit date for Topher is a little sus...

 

[balls of snow]

Ms want to solve emulation on windows pc and cut the console deadweight for good. If they cant do it by 2028, the backup plan is releasing a next gen console.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

"I still think we'll see next-gen Xbox hardware from Microsoft, but I also strongly believe we'll see multiple devices from PC makers like Asus that will also be considered next-gen Xbox consoles." at GAF means Xbox has been canceled

 

[Topher]

Just glad to be here with all the other geniuses. Though the Edit date for Topher is a little sus...

 

[DeepEnigma]

This is literally what I've said all along.

Cringe Hype Platform  Post in thread '"This Is An Xbox", Microsoft's New Xbox Advert'

Nov 14, 2024

You should hate it. Xbox is a console.

It honestly isn't. Xbox is an app with a log-in. That is going to work on PC, Phone, TV, Console, Browser, Handhelds.

• Punished Miku

• 
• 
• 

News Rumor Hardware  Post in thread 'Windows Central/Jez Corden: Xbox's new hardware plans begin with a gaming handheld set for later this year, with full next-gen consoles targeting 2027'

Mar 10, 2025

So like the Legion Go I'm using Gamepass on right now, just with an Xbox sticker? I feel like the hook would be if you could access your Xbox 'console' library.

Make a little app in Windows that opens up to a Xbox dashboard.

I dream.

• Punished Miku

• 

Event  Post in thread 'Xbox Games Showcase Followed by The Outer Worlds 2 Direct Airs June 8'

Jun 7, 2025

As in announcing the next Xbox console? But wasn't that said to be 2027? Sounds too early. And that handheld was put on hold, wasn't it?

All that matters is explaining the future of forward compatibility and the app that will be their windows storefront. The hardware can still come in 26 / 27. People in the Xbox ecosystem need all the info though as soon as they can reliably explain it

• Punished Miku

Cringe Hype Platform  Post in thread '"This Is An Xbox", Microsoft's New Xbox Advert'

Nov 14, 2024

It's a little cringe, but it gets the message across and just keeps repeating Xbox over and over which is pretty standard marketing.

The future is the app, and the app will be everywhere. I don't hate it. Has some light humor. Nothing amazing, but it's fine.

• Punished Miku

• 
• 

Rumor Hardware Platform  Post in thread '(eXtas1s) Potentially Lots of New Info on Next Xbox(es)'

May 19, 2025

This seems unnecessarily pointless

Just seems like you can make MS Store your home base. And it will probably display Steam titles alongside your library and load up Steam as an "Xbox app" like all your other apps. Just makes it easy and more console-ish, which is what Xbox players want.

• Punished Miku

• 
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Post in thread 'Is Xbox really just a controller now?'

May 30, 2025

Controller, and an app that loads your library and GP.

• Punished Miku

• 

Post in thread 'Jez on the future of Xbox (rumour)'

May 2, 2024

Didn't go so well for Stadia. Maybe people like having their hardware locally.

Then buy a PC and load it up, or the handheld. Point is the common denominator is the app. That will be on PC, handheld, mobile, cloud, browser, TV. PCs will always be around so if your chosen app is on that, you've got nothing but options.

• Punished Miku

Software is still not a console.

 

[Topher]

"I still think we'll see next-gen Xbox hardware from Microsoft, but I also strongly believe we'll see multiple devices from PC makers like Asus that will also be considered next-gen Xbox consoles." at GAF means Xbox has been canceled

lol....not sure if you saw, but that is literally what the thread title said before it was changed.

Software is still not a console.

 

[Punished Miku]

Software is still not a console.

Semantics really. My position at least should be clear hopefully with all those quotes.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Semantics really.

No.

Shillmantics, really.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

lol....not sure if you saw, but that is literally what the thread title said before it was changed.

I did not

Draugoth free lancing titles?

 

[Punished Miku]

No.

Shillmantics, really.

Did you read literally my first quote? Read it. Now tell me why you wrote what you did. It makes no sense.

This is why I will never quote mine for you guys on request, because it's totally pointless.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Did you read literally my first quote? Read it. Now tell me why you wrote what you did. It makes no sense.

Software is not a console. And that is not semantics.

Mental gymnastics, sure... semantics it is not.

 

[Mr Moose]

Software is still not a console.

I deleted my Xbox console.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I deleted my Xbox console.

Try redownloading it. Also, you should download more RAMs while your at it.

 

[Draugoth]

I did not

Draugoth free lancing titles?

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

So this article is exactly what we have been saying here at GAF for a long time but Warren decided to write it up and paywall it?

 

[DeepEnigma]

So this article is exactly what we have been saying here at GAF for a long time but Warren decided to write it up and paywall it?

Stealing your shit and monetizing it.

Familiar, this.

 

[drganon]

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Stealing your shit and monetizing it.

Familiar, this.

Where is Jez scolding him for acting like its his own material?

 

[Fake]

So this article is exactly what we have been saying here at GAF for a long time but Warren decided to write it up and paywall it?

gaf > internet > gaf

 

[kruis]

Microsoft's own Xbox handheld was reportedly "sidelined" recently, and I've heard from insiders that it's essentially canceled as the company focuses on Xbox's new software platform. I still think we'll see next-gen Xbox hardware from Microsoft, but I also strongly believe we'll see multiple devices from PC makers like Asus that will also be considered next-gen Xbox consoles.

Someone should Tom Warren that denial is not just a river in Egypt. Xbox Series S/X was Microsoft's last hurrah in the console market. Next gen will be "Xbox PC" only. MS can step out of the loss leading hw businesses, concentrate on the software and let other hw manufacturers compete with SteamDeck.

 

[Dr_Ifto]

F

Saw this one coming a while ago.

 

[adamsapple]

So this article is exactly what we have been saying here at GAF for a long time but Warren decided to write it up and paywall it?

You should have seen the original title, lol.

Me....same thread...

To"they called me a man"pher.