Always-honest
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I see no real reason for anyone with a decent PC to pick this up on PS4 or 360. Especially since you can buy it for what, 15$?
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Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition |OT| Lara shot first
- Thread starter Chance Hale
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I see no real reason for anyone with a decent PC to pick this up on PS4 or 360. Especially since you can buy it for what, 15$?
So here's a weird one: I'm seeing 2 different bestbuy.com SKUs for the PS4 version (3089045 and 3201013). I'm assuming that one is art book packaging and one is not? Anybody know?
I preordered yesterday to try to get the art book packaging (and my Gamers Club Unlocked discount), and it has me down for the 3201013 SKU... that's all that was available at the time...
I preordered yesterday to try to get the art book packaging (and my Gamers Club Unlocked discount), and it has me down for the 3201013 SKU... that's all that was available at the time...
Errr no. Triple buffering is to prevent stuttering when the framerate fluctuates (at the cost of higher latency).
$4 on Amazon xD
Uh, I'm a PC gamer with a PS4 and there is no damned way in hell I'm picking this up for PS4. Are you just looking for a reason to turn on your PS4 or something?
Textures, lighting, etc.... all changes based on the quality you use.
Let's see ultra PC in that same shot, just for fairness sake. I mean, the PC has to contest against the "definitive" console edition after all, so it's only fair we see how it looks "definitively" on max spec PC too.
BruiserBear
Banned
First I've heard of this.
Well, on the first page of this thread I mentioned seeing minor stutters in certain scenes if I whipped the camera around 360 degrees. So make of that what you will.
geordiemp
Member
Let's not judge the new face based on one pic, please...
Bottom image is so much warmer and pleasing - which one is which by the way as there is no labels ?
True, but it's still ok to chime in if you are making a comparison and might have some intention to purchase.
Heck, I've bought like 3 different versions..or more...of some games. Not unusual to double or triple dip if a new version of a game or a remake comes out.
It appears the top one is the PC version cranked down graphically (aka settings not turned up) or the last-gen version.
In that case, the bottom one is certainly better looking. I think this is a 100% pick it up if you only played the 360/PS3 version or have never played it and don't have a capable PC.
Well...that makes a lot more sense.
BruiserBear
Banned
PS4 is bottom.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
What? I've always heard that it's lower latency (than double buffering) at the cost of a memory hit.
Wonko_C
Member
I thought triple buffering was used to allow for frame drops that are not multiples of the refresh rate when vsync is engaged, and that without vsync, double or triple buffering is useless?
Am I wrong thinking that using double-buffered Vsync means that if my framerate drops from 60 fps it is only able to drop to 30, 20, 15, 10, and so on? Meanwhile triple buffered vsync allows it to drop from 60 to 1 and anything in between (59, 47, 33, etc.)
The PC version of Tomb Raider allows me to choose between double buffer and triple buffer, I'll check them out to see If i notice any differences.
? My PC doesn't look like the top picture. What version is that one?
Revolutionary
Member
Top is PS3, bottom is PS4
The one without TressFX enabled. Pretty pointless comparison pic, so don't read too much into it.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Fantastic. Thanks for the replies. Hope someone breaks the street date in the UK...
Let's not judge the new face based on one pic, please...
She looks braindead in the bottom one.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Funny, I thought the same thing, but about the top one.
It uses the same face model as PC (without tessellation) so the comparison is not at all pointless.
It uses the same face model as PC (without tessellation) so the comparison is not at all pointless.
It increases latency since it delays what you on the screen by one frame.
You're correct.
OK, thanks.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The added subsurface light scattering shader should make her skin in general look a lot softer and less plastic/flat surface than the original.
No problem.
Looks like UnrealEck put up the real PC pic though I'd must say that mine looks better probably due to the 2560x1600 resolution, which makes the game looks absolutely incredible.
UnrealEck
Member
Oh yeah and mines is a Fraps video of a Youtube video. But I doubt much is lost to be honest. Also the PS4 gif is of a Youtube video too.
FairXchange
Member
Easy patch indeed, it's called electric tape
WeAreStarStuff
Member
PS4 top, PC bottom.
Nice. Both of these look so much better than the PS3 version I played. I told myself I would wait to pick this up until it's cheap, but I can tell I am going to cave and pick this up; sigh.
Bottom wins, but top is an acceptable upgrade over the last gen version.
Let's not judge the new face based on one pic, please...
I don't know which is which but the bottom Lara looks worse to me.
Edit, i quoted the wrong post lol, its on the next page.
Easy patch indeed, it's called electric tape
Haha, yep.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Have to disagree there. The SSS on the skin alone makes the DE look much more natural. Artistic differences aside.
CaptainTiptop
Member
So when this releases in Europe, if I've never played it before and the cheapest I can get it is £35, is that worth it?
The 60fps hype for this game really makes me hope the next Uncharted is 60fps.
The 60fps hype for this game really makes me hope the next Uncharted is 60fps.
PS4 top, PC bottom.
TressFX physics are very simplified in definitive edition based in these gifs.
PS4 top, PC bottom.
She looks much cuter and younger in the PC shot, she looks more real as well to me. She looks a bit braindead in the next gen version.
UnrealEck
Member
No. It's a good game but wait for it to come down to £15 or £20. But then I'm fussy. I just wouldn't give them the money for this on principle alone.
Yes, if you've not played it before it's absolutely worth it. The game is great, but I can't justify to buy it for myself, because I've played it on PS3 already.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Picked it up.
My first Tomb Raider game ever.
Unless you count playing the demo to the originals repeatedly back in the day.
My first Tomb Raider game ever.
Unless you count playing the demo to the originals repeatedly back in the day.
KojiKnight
Member
Definitive version definitely looks better than last gen.
PC versus Definitive seems to be your preference on New versus Old Lara... or "I have a 4k display and I laugh at your "definitive" title".
PC versus Definitive seems to be your preference on New versus Old Lara... or "I have a 4k display and I laugh at your "definitive" title".
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
I watched a stream for hours last night (I have it on PC.) and the PS4 hair just seems heavier. That's bad for showing it off on top of her head in light wind, but the ponytail looks better during action.
It's actually a surprisingly Solid title and pretty content rich. Lots to do, collect, upgrade etc. I would have bought it if it was cheaper, but I already played the current gen version so there's little point at full whack.
PS4 top, PC bottom.
the radar box " indicators for example" look better on PS4.
but without a question, the hair, the skin, the hair movement, all look much better on PC. like,,, much much better
SSS is a great addition, but it's barely visible in that comparisson. TressFX seems static in PS4 gif, Eye lids animation seems better in pc too (maybe because gif framerate, or maybe becuase the better motion blur). Lips animation is missing in PS4 gif too (maybe it happens later). Hair shadows have lower resolution in DE. Another difference, DE gif lacks ambient occlusion between Lara's head and hair, so it seems that the hair is floating over the head.
That blur is because gif resolution is not native. You can see it looking at QTE text.
I don't think anyone has made any claims to the definitive version being the best version outside of an opinion. In reality its PC-gaf that seems to be getting all wrapped up in this shit, hence moving the goal posts from 60FPS to tessellation in order to try and persevere some kind of PC dominance. This isn't necessarily a knock at PC-gaf, because as it stands they have brought some validity to the table, but its clear a good chunk of them are simply in it to cling to anything that will give the PC version the edge. And as its stands IMO, its looking like both version will have their benefits.
Always-honest
Banned
There you go. It's in no way a 50$ difference in gameplay or graphical features. So a nobrainer for PC people. They even have the extra option of higher res and better AA.
Sanic
Member
I was holding off on seeing what retail footage looked like, as I had been interested in buying this. Kinda bummed to see that the improvements are really insignificant at best, and the PC version is $9 at the moment, so not a hard choice to make.
Hopefully we can get some higher quality footage soon so that the SSS can be more accurately evaluated...i've seen no difference in what i've watched so far.
Hopefully we can get some higher quality footage soon so that the SSS can be more accurately evaluated...i've seen no difference in what i've watched so far.
Keyser Soze
Member
It drives me mad that the banality of needless resolution/graphics discussion has infested almost all console gaming threads these days. Sometime soon we will start talking driver updates. :/
Sir British
Banned
Which is probably a good thing considering TressFX hair likes to blow in many different directions and spaz out for no reason at all.
pull a costanza?
Burger
Member
Found a review here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dho-FCabHsw