Tomb Raider Review Thread!

slasher_thrasher21 said:
Did you feel the same about Dead Space or RE4 death animations? Come on now. lol
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eh. It's a fair complaint I think, but not something that remotely bothers me.

Who didn't continually swan dive into granite or drown Lara before? Obviously they've stepped it up, but it is what it is, and it's not what everyone is going to want to see.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
MGS3 and it's dramatic subtle actions of students killing masters, Gungrave did it first damnit!

I think 8 people actually played Gungrave
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I played both! and enjoyed them! ;)

plagiarize said:
eh. It's a fair complaint I think, but not something that remotely bothers me.

Who didn't continually swan dive into granite or drown Lara before? Obviously they've stepped it up, but it is what it is, and it's not what everyone is going to want to see.
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They are brutal for sure, but so was RE4 death scenes, and some of Dead Spaces. Torture porn... now that's the end of Silent Hill Homecoming there ;)
 
Aside from the impale deaths, the TR deaths aren't even that brutal. They rarely show her hit the ground when she calls off a cliff for example. And when she does, she just bounces and slides around like in the other CD games.
 
XOMTOR said:
Watched a bit of the video Fabrik posted and my God, the animations look almost identical to TR Underworld. And that's not a good thing.
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They don't look identical at all. How can you not see the improvement in the reboot? Lara animates much more smoothly now...it’s impressive.

Not only are the animations better now, but she now looks to have some weight to her instead of feeling like a balloon with no sense of weight.
 
slasher_thrasher21 said:
Did you feel the same about Dead Space or RE4 death animations? Come on now. lol
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Yeah but it's not the same. You expect it in those titles and it fits much better. I'm not opposed to it being in Tomb Raider, but I am saying it doesn't fit given the games history. But this is a different direction and a different game. I will say that I was definitely surprised when I found out a couple weeks ago that it's rated M. Blew my mind. Then I saw why and laughed and applauded.
 
The Mango Sentinel said:
Yeah but it's not the same. You expect it in those titles and it fits much better. I'm not opposed to it being in Tomb Raider, but I am saying it doesn't fit given the games history. But this is a different direction and a different game. I will say that I was definitely surprised when I found out a couple weeks ago that it's rated M. Blew my mind. Then I saw why and laughed and applauded.
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Well there is a difference between someone saying they don't fit, and saying they are so violent and equivalent to torture porn. If you asked me if brutal death scenes was the first thing to come to my mind thinking Tomb Raider? I'd say no. At the end of the day though, I don't care. My enjoyment for the game stands as is.
 
I thought of something pretty funny and sad, Angel of Darkness feels more like a Tomb Raider game than this Tomb Raider reboot, and the majority of that game took place in a city.
 
I'm spending most (all?) of gaming time on the 3DS, many games out and coming soon, but I'm considering buying Tomb Raider day one.

This shit better be good.
 
From what i can gather here this is a good game but some people are angry because they dont think it warrants the title Tomb Raider.

Well thats fine with me, i dont really care what a game is called as long as its good. They could call this game Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 for all i care, if its good ill get it.
 
Papercuts said:
Why is it assumed Bioshock Infinite is immune to falling short?
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I'm not betting it won't, but it sounds/looks a lot more ambitious and interesting than Tomb Raider. If I had to choose between the two, Infinite is the crystal clear winner.

Derrick01 said:
Because no one down rated Bioshock for all of its failings so no one expects them to do anything different with Infinite.
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If it's a carbon copy of the first Bioshock, then disappointment is warranted. But I don't think it will be.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Uncharted fans get Uncharted and Tomb Raider

Tomb Raider fans get uh....replaying those old Tomb Raider games, I guess

Everybody wins, kinda, sorta, not really!
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I'm an Uncharted fan, and I'm not really looking forward to this.

They really should have focused on the survival aspect of the game from the first leak of the game. I remember reading this and it sounded awesome, but this? Jesus, did they use a focus group or something?
 
EteRnal_PAL said:
IGN on Tomb Raider - How To Tell If You'll Love Tomb Raider

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What kinda shameless promo.
 
The Mango Sentinel said:
Hell. No.

I'm surprised I could even push myself to finish that game.
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I know the pain man, having to upgrade Lara's block pushing skills was fucking weird, and the controls/bugs in the game were horrendous, but it's more Tomb Raider than the upcoming Tomb Raider. And that's pretty fucked thinking about it.
 
Mr.Wreckless said:
From what i can gather here this is a good game but some people are angry because they dont think it warrants the title Tomb Raider.

Well thats fine with me, i dont really care what a game is called as long as its good. They could call this game Legacy of Kain: Blood Omen 2 for all i care, if its good ill get it.
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This stance is kind of infuriating. What's the point of brand recognition at all then? Why don't we just call this "Adventure-Shooter #457 starring Young Woman"and forget about the Tomb Raider name completely?

This "a good game is a good game" attitude does nothing for anyone. Nearly every adventure-shooter on the market is attempting exactly what this one is, but there's nearly no games doing what Tomb Raider is supposed to be doing. That's the crux of the argument. Whether this turns out to be a well made "cinematic Hollywood-like romp" is not the issue.
 
MormaPope said:
I thought of something pretty funny and sad, Angel of Darkness feels more like a Tomb Raider game than this Tomb Raider reboot, and the majority of that game took place in a city.
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it was also a giant piece of shit. I don't think you get to define what makes a game more or less Tomb Raider for anyone other than yourself.
 
Cornbread78 said:
so, objectively, Tomb Raider or Crysis 3? better value/fun?
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I'm sure you'll get more value out of TR than Crysis 3. C3 is only 5 hours or so and is mostly your typical military shooter, it's not nearly as open or experimental as 1. If you're playing them on consoles then that's even more reason to avoid it.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
This stance is kind of infuriating. What's the point of brand recognition at all then? Why don't we just call this "Adventure-Shooter #457 starring Young Woman"and forget about the Tomb Raider name completely?

This "a good game is a good game" attitude does nothing for anyone. Nearly every adventure-shooter on the market is attempting exactly what this one is, but there's nearly no games doing what Tomb Raider is supposed to be doing. That's the crux of the argument. Whether this turns out to be a well made "cinematic Hollywood-like romp" is not the issue.
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how many of these adventure shooters are there? I'm drawing a bit of a blank after the Uncharted series. obviously this has been made more like other franchises out there, but I'm with Dark10X who pointed out way back when, that there is far from an abundance of Uncharted-esque games being released. what has there been since uncharted 3 came out over a year ago?
 
plagiarize said:

it was also a giant piece of shit. I don't think you get to define what makes a game more or less Tomb Raider for anyone other than yourself.
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This Tomb Raider reboot looks like a giant piece of boring, at this point I'll take ill fated execution and whack ideas over boring.
 
MormaPope said:
The anime is amazing, never played the games. Ah man, the Brandon and Harry dynamic was so well done and beautiful.
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Its funny that despite the anime overall being excellent it was dragged down a bit just before the ending because they tried to shoehorn in video game style boss fights in the game to make it authentic to the games or some shit. Still though DAT ending.

Anyway I skipped out on Crysis 3 but will be getting TR.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
This stance is kind of infuriating. What's the point of brand recognition at all then? Why don't we just call this "Adventure-Shooter #457 starring Young Woman"and forget about the Tomb Raider name completely?

This "a good game is a good game" attitude does nothing for anyone. Nearly every adventure-shooter on the market is attempting exactly what this one is, but there's nearly no games doing what Tomb Raider is supposed to be doing. That's the crux of the argument. Whether this turns out to be a well made "cinematic Hollywood-like romp" is not the issue.
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I dont care about that at all. If this adventure shooter is a damn good adventure shooter then i will buy it. Ill judge the game on what it is, not what its "supposed" to be.

If they made this exact same game with "insert random protagonist" then I would still get it, the fact that it stars Lara Croft doesnt make it any better or worse to me.

Dont get me wrong, i understand your stance completely, its just that i dont care about that as much as a lot of others do. Game sounds like Uncharted to me and i happen to like Uncharted.
 
Net_Wrecker said:
This stance is kind of infuriating. What's the point of brand recognition at all then? Why don't we just call this "Adventure-Shooter #457 starring Young Woman"and forget about the Tomb Raider name completely?

This "a good game is a good game" attitude does nothing for anyone. Nearly every adventure-shooter on the market is attempting exactly what this one is, but there's nearly no games doing what Tomb Raider is supposed to be doing. That's the crux of the argument. Whether this turns out to be a well made "cinematic Hollywood-like romp" is not the issue.
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While I agree that it's disappointing to see yet another game try and play it safe, this is a reboot of the franchise - not Tomb Raider 28.

And while it being well made may not be the issue, many people are insistent on criticising it for merely existing rather than actually taking a sensible look at the game as an individual product and THEN criticising the directional change as a separate albeit important (for some) issue.

I've seen people flat out refuse to acknowledge any good impressions or even accuse all the reviews of being paid off. Is this discussion/concern coming from experience or backed up arguments? No, it's coming from an inherent hatred of the franchise changing - it stifles discussion if we're going to lump the two together in such a way.
 
Dahbomb said:
Its funny that despite the anime overall being excellent it was dragged down a bit just before the ending because they tried to shoehorn in video game style boss fights in the game to make it authentic to the games or some shit. Still though DAT ending.

Anyway I skipped out on Crysis 3 but will be getting TR.
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Magnificent ending indeed.
 
Ravensmash said:
While I agree that it's disappointing to see yet another game try and play it safe, this is a reboot of the franchise - not Tomb Raider 28.

And while it being well made may not be the issue, many people are insistent on criticising it for merely existing rather than actually taking a sensible look at the game as an individual product and THEN criticising the directional change as a separate albeit important (for some) issue.

I've seen people flat out refuse to acknowledge any good impressions or even accuse all the reviews of being paid off. Is this discussion/concern coming from experience or backed up arguments? No, it's coming from an inherent hatred of the franchise changing - it stifles discussion if we're going to lump the two together in such a way.
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I just don't get how Tomb Raider Underworld 2 wouldn't have also quite plainly been playing it safe.

Look, I understand the pain of people that hate this change. Whether RE6 is a good game or not, it isn't what I want from a Resident Evil game... but I wouldn't rather play Dead Aim, or whatever previous low point of the series you want to highlight over it.
 
As far as game time goes, Tomb Raider probably will last a decent 10 or 15 hours, but the game won't have replayability. Having to see Lara get hurt and crawl around or escape raging rivers or landslides will not be engaging the 2nd time through.

The slow burn for the first 3 hours would kill my interest in ever touching the game again after completing it.
 
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