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[BKK]

So in an interview with the UK's Times, and a German paper;

He will agree a nuclear weapons reduction deal with President Putin of Russia in return for lifting US sanctions. He was highly critical of Russia's intervention in Syria, however, describing it as ”a very bad thing" that had led to a ”terrible humanitarian situation".

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Somehow, I'm this is going to work by us giving them our weapons.

 

[Xe4]

I can't see this (on its own, exluding Trump's bs with Russia) as a bad thing. I loved Obama but I really don't think he did enough for nuclear disarmament. We'll see where this goes, however.

 

[Snowman Prophet of Doom]

Somehow, I'm this is going to work by us giving them our weapons.

No, it ends with Putin lining his pockets with US money in exchange for decommissioning weapons that are probably on their last legs, if they are even still working at all.

 

[smokeymicpot]

So are we gonna give them money to do so?

 

[pestul]

He just can't stop talking about Russia can he..

 

[OpinionatedCyborg]

lifting sanctions? fuck that.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

He'll say whatever he wants as long as the end result is sanctions getting lifted.

Somehow I doubt Russia will actually have to do anything.

 

[ISOM]

I can't see this as a bad thing. I loved Obama but I really don't think he did enough for nuclear disarmament. We'll see where this goes, however.

Did you forget the start treaty or are we going to erase Obama's legacy as if it didn't exist? And this plan just so happens to coincide with lifting Russian sanctions. People are such easy marks.

 

[Ollie Pooch]

This stuff is all happening exactly how it was outlined in that dossier, so not sure why anyone's surprised he wants to lift sanctions. The 'trade' sounds like bullshit.

WHY is he SO OBSESSED with lifting sanctions on Russia. What is he up to?

 

[Alavard]

Somehow, I'm this is going to work by us giving them our weapons.

I'm reminded of that grift where the con-man tries to confuse a mark by asking for various amounts of bills and change back and forth.

 

[metalslimer]

Sounds like a way just to get sanctions off Russia and Lord Putin

 

[rjinaz]

No, it ends with Putin lining his pockets with US money in exchange for decommissioning weapons that are probably on their last legs, if they are even still working at all.

Ha, yeah probably this.

 

[Lime]

Classic far right tactic - veil your scheme in something positive so that your actions are initially interpreted as positive and benign.

"It's actually about ethics in games journalism" = "it's actually about nuclear disarmament"

 

[FlowersisBritish]

Okay, but by nuclear reduction do they mean by "Launching them at someplace?" because I just don't trust Trump or Russia with the word Nuclear.

 

[BlastProcessing]

He also said this:

@thetimes
"We should be ready to trust Putin", says @realDonaldTrump in his first UK ­interview as president-elect http://thetim.es/2jmjjFB

 

[BlackLagoon]

And with the US ending sanctions there would also be an implicit approval of Russia keeping Crimea.

 

[gaugebozo]

Did you forget the start treaty or are we going to erase Obama's legacy as if it didn't exist? And this plan just so happens to coincide with lifting Russian sanctions. People are such easy marks.

And that didn't require something like ending sanctions. What a ridiculous basis.

 

[metalslimer]

And with the US ending sanctions there would also be an implicit approval of Russia keeping Crimea.

Yep for a reduction in weapons that doesn't amount to much in the grand scheme of Russian ambition. We will both still have enough weapons to destroy the world multiple times over. It's amazing how easy people are to fool because we will be fighting each other over nuclear reduction while Russia recovers their economy and becomes even stronger.

 

[O Canada Our Home and Native Land]

That's a bad deal, Donald. What happened to the awesome deals you were going to make?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

And with the US ending sanctions there would also be an implicit approval of Russia keeping Crimea.

Crimea? Trump probably still doesn't know where and what that is. Have at it, Putey.

 

[gaugebozo]

What an amazing negotiator! Russia gets what Russia wants, and we get what Russia wants!

 

[Imperfected]

I mean, both countries should only need half as many weapons as they have individually to maintain the same level of nuclear deterrent considering that Putin's going to be in control of both stockpiles now, anyway.

Think of it as opening a joint checking account after the wedding.

 

[Valhelm]

This stuff is all happening exactly how it was outlined in that dossier, so not sure why anyone's surprised he wants to lift sanctions. The 'trade' sounds like bullshit.

WHY is he SO OBSESSED with lifting sanctions on Russia. What is he up to?

Trump admires the strength of the Russian government and hopes that he and his associates can become wealthy through economic diplomacy

 

[Ourobolus]

Yeah it's going to be even worse. Russia has already stated they don't want to do that unless the US backs out of Europe completely.

And even with the 2014 sanctions they resolved to increase their supply back in 2015. They won't go along with this, at least in private.

 

[Sushi Nao]

You first, comrade

 

[PatThePassive]

I can't see this (on its own, exluding Trump's bs with Russia) as a bad thing. I loved Obama but I really don't think he did enough for nuclear disarmament. We'll see where this goes, however.

See the Ukraine for why this is a bad idea, we are all clearly not ready.(as a species)

When Obama was speaking about nuclear disarmament in 08 the republicans did all they could to condemn it and he moved on to a universal healthcare system.

 

[Blader]

Russia's cyber warfare tactics are so effectively destructive and influential, they've virtually left nukes obsolete anyway.

Yeah it's going to be even worse. Russia has already stated they don't want to do that unless the US backs out of Europe completely.

And even with the 2014 sanctions they resolved to increase their supply back in 2015. They won't go along with this, at least in private.

Putin talked about increasing supply just a few weeks ago.

 

[BKK]

I vote to nuke them, who's with me?

 

[mlclmtckr]

So he trades a few obsolete nukes for Crimea. Pretty good. Maybe he can retire a nuclear sub and get Finland.

 

[metalslimer]

I vote to nuke them, who's with me?

This is your thread

 

[NullPointer]

How predictable, and how conveniently it fits the narrative.

 

[BoboBrazil]

He also said this:

We can't let this fucker become President

 

[BKK]

This is your thread

Not the thread, Russia!

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

I vote to nuke them, who's with me?

Look, I'm not taking any cards off the table.

 

[Ac30]

I vote to nuke them, who's with me?

I really don't know what you expected when you opened this thread. The man flip-flops on everything, it's no wonder people won't take his word for it; plus, as others have said, it's tacit approval for the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Also, you're really gonna shitpost your own thread?

 

[Laekon]

So we reduce our nuclear arms and stop the sanctions and Russia will reduce their nuclear arms? How is the a win for the US?

 

[Ourobolus]

Putin talked about increasing supply just a few weeks ago.

Right but it isn't the first nor will it be the last time.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Impeach this orange shitstain daughterfucker already.

Do it before he even takes office. Jesus Christ.

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[Ollie Pooch]

So we reduce our nuclear arms and stop the sanctions and Russia will reduce their nuclear arms? How is the a win for the US?

I think this needs to be framed as "How is this a win for Trump? Financially?"

It's just so out in the open - first meeting : Putin. First foreign policy decision : lift sanctions on Russia. How does any of this benefit anyone except himself. Insane.

 

[metalslimer]

Not the thread, Russia!

So you don't want to be serious about anything ok.

 

[rokkerkory]

Why should we give them any economic relief?

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

So we reduce our nuclear arms and stop the sanctions and Russia will reduce their nuclear arms? How is the a win for the US?

?

Putin is happy. What more do you even want? What more do you need?

 

[Deleted member 80556]

I sense that this deal, if it were to happen, won't have the same guarantees as the Iran Nuclear deal had, but will definitely be quite thorough in how and which sanctions to lift.

 

[Ourobolus]

So we reduce our nuclear arms and stop the sanctions and Russia will reduce their nuclear arms? How is the a win for the US?

How are any of Trump's foreign policies a win for the US?

 

[KernelPanic]

This stuff is all happening exactly how it was outlined in that dossier, so not sure why anyone's surprised he wants to lift sanctions. The 'trade' sounds like bullshit.

WHY is he SO OBSESSED with lifting sanctions on Russia. What is he up to?

They own him financially.

There may or may not be a golden shower tape but I'm sure he's done nasty shit on his trips to Russia.

 

[DragonSworne]

Yes, let's lift sanctions on a nation that hacked and manipulated our elections.

 

[Neverthelesser]

So we reduce our nuclear arms and stop the sanctions and Russia will reduce their nuclear arms? How is the a win for the US?

We're losing...but from a position of strength!

 

[Balphon]

We just made one a few years ago.

With fairly vocal Republican opposition, if memory serves.

 

[Got]

They own him financially.

There may or may not be a golden shower tape but I'm sure he's done nasty shit on his trips to Russia.

he's definitely had sex with children.