Trump Jr. claims plagiarism after Obama uses idiom he used, Obama also used it in '12

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...that Obama and others have used before.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...ys-obama-lifted-phrase-his-rnc-speech-n618916

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Donald Trump Jr. suggested Thursday that Barack Obama's speech in Philadelphia Wednesday night lifted a line from his Republican National Convention remarks, pointing out that both addresses contained the line "That's not the America I know."

The charge comes after Melania Trump was criticized for cribbing significant portions of her address to the RNC from Michelle Obama's first convention speech in 2008.

Trump Jr. is correct that both he and Obama both used the single phrase in their speeches to their respective party conventions. But it's also a line Obama, along with other past presidents, has used frequently in the past. And other than the brief sentiment about the version of America known to both men, the context of the statements are very different.

Here's what the younger Trump said last week in Cleveland.

Donald Trump Jr: There's so much work to do. We will not accept the current state of our country because it's too hard to change. That's not the America I know. We're going to unleash the creative spirit and energy of all Americans. We're going to make our schools the best in the world for every single American of every single ethnicity and background.

And here's what the president said in Philadelphia.

President Barack Obama: What we heard in Cleveland last week wasn't particularly Republican and it sure wasn't conservative. What we heard was a deeply pessimistic vision of a country where we turn against each other and turn away from the rest of the world. There were no serious solutions to pressing problems, just the fanning of resentment and blame and anger and hate. And that is not the America I know. The America I know is full of courage, and optimism, and ingenuity. The America I know is decent and generous.


Obama has also frequently used the construction of "the America I know" and "not the America I know" in public addresses.

During an economic address in Cleveland, Ohio in 2010, for example, he said "Instead of setting our sights higher, they're asking us to settle for a status quo of stagnant growth and eroding competitiveness and a shrinking middle class. Cleveland, that is not the America I know. That is not the America we believe in."

In 2012 in Michigan, Obama described college affordability in terms of "the America I know," saying "I want this to be a big, bold, generous country where everybody gets a fair shot, everybody is doing their fair share, everybody is playing by the same set of rules. That's the America I know."

More recently, in an speech memorializing fallen police officers in Dallas earlier this month, Obama described the victims helping each other amid the chaos. "'Everyone was helping each other,' one witness said. 'It wasn't about black or white. Everyone was picking each other up and moving them away.' See, that's the America I know."

The use of the "America I know" refrain was also a common phrase for former president George W. Bush.

In the days after the 9/11 attacks, for example, Bush spoke about his view of the country during a visit to an Islamic center.

"Women who cover their heads in this country must feel comfortable going outside their homes. Moms who wear cover must be not intimidated in America," he said. "That's not the America I know. That's not the America I value."
 
Yeah, everyone except the most argent Trump supporters are calling major bullshit on this.

Side note: I had no idea Bush had said that regarding Muslim women - in the wake of 9/11 no less. It's so sad that the concept of a sitting Republican saying anything remotely empathetic towards Muslims has become this abstract, outlandish concept nowadays. The fuck happened to the GOP man.
 
Oh wow that's awesome. I bet after they accused Melania of plagiarizing, the whole family was tasked with reading through Obama's speech and at some point after 1 AM, little trump jr., half asleep found this and was like "that'll teach them!"
 
pathetic, I can't describe how I feel about people who buy this shit, agree with trump jr and support him and his father
 
Of course somebody from the Trump camp was going to try to call out something from a DNC speech as being plagiarized. But this is a whole lot of nothing and they really should've just let it go if it's the best they could do.
 
Yeah, everyone except the most argent Trump supporters are calling major bullshit on this.

Side note: I had no idea Bush had said that regarding Muslim women - in the wake of 9/11 no less. It's so sad that the concept of a sitting Republican saying anything remotely empathetic towards Muslims has become this abstract, outlandish concept nowadays. The fuck happened to the GOP man.

Bush was pretty good about distinguishing between Terrorism and Islam.

https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html
 
Donald Trump Jr has always been a petty, small-minded, hateful, dishonest little shit. He retweets some of the worst garbage and conspiracy theories on the internet as if they're true.

Yeah, Obama "plagiarized" an extremely common statement made up of 6 common words, used by countless people in the past including himself, much before you ever used it, in a speech he has no doubt spent MONTHS preparing, from your shitty speech you gave a few days ago. Yup.

The fact that this asshole is narcissistic enough to think that Obama of all people, one of the best orators of this generation, would believe there is anything wroth "plagiarizing" in his speech is so, so special.
 
So he still doesn't know what plagiarism is, even after having some more time to figure it out.

Or he knows but is just a whiny douchebag.
 
I was expecting something stupid, but i still audibly laughed when I saw the phrase. Why do these people insist on exposing themselves as so moronic?
 
Side note: I had no idea Bush had said that regarding Muslim women - in the wake of 9/11 no less. It's so sad that the concept of a sitting Republican saying anything remotely empathetic towards Muslims has become this abstract, outlandish concept nowadays. The fuck happened to the GOP man.

Truth.

Regardless of my political feelings for Bush, he made me proud to be an American of Muslim descent. The months and years following 9/11 were difficult for Muslims in America, but the president took our side, he stood up for us and explained very respectfully that we were a very different people from the hate-fueled men who attacked the country. People listened and they understood. I never once felt unwelcome in America, in part due to the words Bush spoke following 9/11. Whatever happened with Afghanistan and Iraq I will always have respect for Bush for having the balls to step up for Muslims everywhere.

This election cycle has been the first time I've ever felt unwelcome in this country. It hurts, a lot, to see how much support Trump gets for saying that he will outlaw Muslims, my own family, from entering the country. That we cant be trusted and that we don't want the better lives and opportunities that come with becoming an American. Many people around the world who identify as Muslim LOVE this country and want to be a part of it.

I absolutely love this country. If my parents weren't allowed to come to Canada and America, if they didn't bring me up here and show me what freedom and equality means, there's a pretty good chance I'd be in a part of the world today where I would be murdered just for being who I am, a bisexual man who has respectfully put aside my personal faith. But I am still a part of my Muslim heritage and what Donald Trump has said against Muslims and the fucked up justifications from his bigoted supporters has shaken my faith in this country for the very first time. I absolutely will not let that continue - he and his ilk MUST be rebuked with love and mutual respect for people of all kinds.
 
Yeah, everyone except the most argent Trump supporters are calling major bullshit on this.

Side note: I had no idea Bush had said that regarding Muslim women - in the wake of 9/11 no less. It's so sad that the concept of a sitting Republican saying anything remotely empathetic towards Muslims has become this abstract, outlandish concept nowadays. The fuck happened to the GOP man.

That kind of shocked me too.
 
The Dems plagiarized every single person who has ever said God Bless the United States of America also

I dunno if you guys caught that

Where's the outrage
 
Looking through Trump Jr.'s feed, It's shocking how many blatant and filthy anti-Muslim, thinly disguised as "anti-jihad" websites he follows and retweets. Their soul purpose is to smear Muslims and Islam in the worst way possible. It's vomit inducing how these filthy bigots are getting fawned over by so many.

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Obama truly has a god given ability for making his opponents play themselves in really embarassing ways.

Like, you have to try really hard to look this stupid.
 
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