Maximilian E.
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Yup, postponed my trip to San Francisco until 4/8 years depending on how long Trump will be in power. Now other countries will get my money instead.
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'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
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Camp Freddie
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It's certainly off my holiday list. I may have to go for business, but not for pleasure while Trump is president.
My friends and I have also had the American coast-to-coast roadtrip on our bucket list of things we'll always be too busy to do (but maybe when we retire, maybe...)
Since that's going to mean driving through Trump country, it's no longer an aspiration.
My friends and I have also had the American coast-to-coast roadtrip on our bucket list of things we'll always be too busy to do (but maybe when we retire, maybe...)
Since that's going to mean driving through Trump country, it's no longer an aspiration.
Said several times in other threads. Wife and I had 10 days in Vegas, Yosemite and San Fran last year as part of our honeymoon, we both said while we were there that if Trump won we wouldn't go back while he's in charge.
A guy I work with who would go twice a year and would do anything to BE American is doing the same.
A guy I work with who would go twice a year and would do anything to BE American is doing the same.
I'd wager a large number of Trump supporters don't actually rely financially on tourism dollars, or at least not directly. Most people certainly aren't going to the midwest to relish in its corn fields and flat land.
Unfortunately by selling access to the president and laundering money through those hotels, I'm sure he'll be more than able to make up the difference.
Chezzymann
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The dishonest media is lying again, tourism is at an all time high
PdotMichael
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Was thinking about visiting the USA this summer, but yeah, that's not gonna happen anymore.
I notice the numbers reported there are not presented in a context that compares them with the same period of the previous year, but simply reports a decline. If you look at this chart http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/tourist-arrivals you can see a steep decline in the same period last year, and if you click the 5Y button you see this exact pattern every year for the last 5 years as well. It appears they are using using normally expected declines and attaching a Trump Slump narrative to them. It would be like blaming Trump for a steep decline in retail because January is way down from December, while not making note of the fact that December is traditionally much higher because of the Holidays.
not really, they cite it as a 6.8% decline and any decline month over month from Dec to Jan was larger than that in previous years using the data that is at their site
There was a Bloomberg article specifically about German tourists. Polling would seem to confirm this data:
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...interest-in-u-s-vacations-on-trump-poll-shows
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/...interest-in-u-s-vacations-on-trump-poll-shows
MikeHattsu
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Was planning a Los Angeles/San Francisco/Las Vegas trip, but with it being crappy enough getting into the US in 2014 on our last trip, now it's just not worth it 
rokkerkory
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Exactly what his supporters want tho. Less non-americans in the country!
Don't White Supremacists believe they're White Europeans that were given the lands of America by God?
As a European, I'd definitely think twice about visiting since Trump took office.
milanbaros
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Against a basket of currencies the dollar is very strong right now. I expect this is more to blame than Trump tbh. The Trump story sells better though.
The Dutch Slayer
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That will come once summer gets started most folks make USA trips during the late spring / summer so once its Nov 2017 the results are going to be far worse.
It's a shame really... I wanted to eventually go to Disney World with my girlfriend in the next few years, but even though we're both white canadians, I do not feel like supporting the tourism industry in the USA while Trump is in charge. Guess we'll have to wait until 2020 or 2024.
Mammoth Jones
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Can't blame mofos. Trumpism is enabling some horrible acts of bigotry.
Technosteve
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This drop doesn't effect fly over states of america. No one is taking a vacation to ohio from europe. Its the coastal cities that will hurt.
Thanks Trump.
Thanks Trump.
Except for all the new business ventures his company is starting in other countries...
The trump name should still be repulsive, but he's got an open net to those smoked out of US plans.
Violence Jack
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We're starting to run out of groups and agencies that Trump hasn't pissed off or negatively impacted.
Yeah, this is me. Have visited the US 10 times in the past 10 years and have no plans of doing so in the near future. It's not even a conscious boycott or fear, more of a matter of the appeal being lessened significantly in the back of my mind. I'm pretty sure I would already be planning a new trip had Hillary won.
Am seriously considering coming over to volunteer for the Dem candidate in 2020, though.
Am seriously considering coming over to volunteer for the Dem candidate in 2020, though.
The Muslim ban strangely doesn't apply to any of the countries he has ventures in, though.
LegendofJoe
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North Carolina doesn't make as much from tourism as Florida, but it's still a major industry there.
Vinsanity.
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I had an annual pass to all of the Disney Parks a few years ago, so I've been there on insanely crowded weekends (especially the Magic Kingdom). It isn't fun.
Vicetrailia
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Trump is bad news, gez. Even if you are a racist it is, but you just don't know it.
Vinsanity.
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Looks like it won't be re-opened with Trump until June 30th:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-hall-of-presidents_us_587d3bb2e4b086022ca94b7c
Same here. And not just that, you never know what they'll do to you at customs.
In just a few months the US dollar has become stronger compared to my currency which makes it expensive to go to US now.
Its also shown in electronics from USA and stuff that has become much more expensive just in 2 months.
So its good for USA economics with a strong currency but bad for me.
Its also shown in electronics from USA and stuff that has become much more expensive just in 2 months.
So its good for USA economics with a strong currency but bad for me.
LegendofJoe
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California doesn't deserve that, they shouldn't have to pay for the rest of America's mistake.
I'm sure the big draws are the cities, sure, but this isn't a fair narrative to push either. Lots of Germans and Canadians (and probably others) love going out to the national parks, and many of the really cool ones are smack dab in red territory. (Man, I wanted to see Yellowstone so bad this summer too. Stop being crazy, America!)
Goldenroad
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Canadian here. My gal and I have been going to the U.S. every year, at least once a year, for some kind of concert or festival, since around 2004 (Chicago, NY, Denver, Washington, Florida, Minnesota, Cleveland, Vegas, The Gorge). This year we've decided we'd feel better about keeping our money out of the U.S...and a lot of Canadians I've talked to feel the same way. We've got a big country here to explore and most of us haven't seen it from coast to coast, so I might take my first trip out to the Maritimes this year, or we'll see what this Pemberton lineup looks like. I've heard more and more people looking at other options to to not support American companies, by going to less American chain restaurants and stores and trying to buy more domestically, which I haven't really gone that far yet, but we'll see.
I've been all over the US and have always enjoyed it, but not setting foot there until the residual grime from this administration is gone. I'm a white male, fwiw.
Even if I wanted to go to the US, I'm not gambling the travel costs to get turned away at the border. All they'd need to do is ask me what I think about the current administration (I would not hold back), or demand access to my phone/social media accounts (NOT FUCKING happening)
Even if I wanted to go to the US, I'm not gambling the travel costs to get turned away at the border. All they'd need to do is ask me what I think about the current administration (I would not hold back), or demand access to my phone/social media accounts (NOT FUCKING happening)
Well, it feels really weird to think about the fact that I might be safer in the US as a foreigner, because I am a white male. And that I should shave off my beard and don't wear a hoodie if I happen to come over. Just to be safe.
It's like growing my beard for my longer stay in Turkey to not be "mistaken" for a foreigner / a tourist. So I basically have to use the same level of personal security in the US as with a near-despotic country with a abhorrent human rights/freedom of speech situation like Turkey .
That's the aura Trump's America is emanating right now. And noone should be surprised that less tourists will come over.
It's like growing my beard for my longer stay in Turkey to not be "mistaken" for a foreigner / a tourist. So I basically have to use the same level of personal security in the US as with a near-despotic country with a abhorrent human rights/freedom of speech situation like Turkey .
That's the aura Trump's America is emanating right now. And noone should be surprised that less tourists will come over.
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