Trump will sign 'Extreme Vetting' of immigrants order today

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Trump plans to sign executive action on refugees, 'extreme vetting' - CNN
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Donald Trump is expected to sign up to three executive actions Friday at the Department of Defense, a White House official told CNN, including one limiting the flow of refugees into the United States and instituting what he called "extreme vetting" of immigrants on the campaign trail.
Trump is also expected to sign two executive actions on military readiness, the official added, noting that the plan is still in flux and could change.
Exercise extreme vetting on this thread if old
 
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As someone who worked with refugee programs, these people are vetted for years before being placed in a country, what more vetting is there going to be?
 
B-b-b-but Hillary had some emails and got paid for making speeches. Both the same! Both the same!

This meme only works when he's doing something wildly hypocritical (ie stifling the freedom of the press or investigating voter fraud while his own staffers meet his criteria). This was a campaign promise, something his supporters want him to do. Saying "but her emails" doesn't matter when he's doing something the deplorables want.
 
I'm seriously expecting everyone coming into the country who isn't white and upper class to be asked if they support Trump.

Why stop there? You might not know their true feelings. They should each be presented with an image of Obama and Hilary Clinton to trample on, to prove their patriotism.
 
5 executive orders in 1 day. For context, Obama signed 250 over 8 years. Trumps gonna beat FDR if he continues at this rate, and FDR had 13 years.
 
So I have to get my green card renewed this year. I can't start the process until 9 months before it expires. I hope they don't jam the system up too much.
 
The process is already extremely humiliating:

Standard immigration:

I was rejected the US visa for the first time when I was fifteen. I remember standing there, in front of the Embassy Consulate, unsure as to why I was being shut away, as just a young boy, from spending a summer abroad with his family. I was told I didn’t have an “extended enough travel history,” because as you know most 15 year olds have probably been around the world.

Ten years later, after months of back and forth with the Embassy and papers flowing in and out, I was finally given a visitor’s visa for 5 years on my third try, routine for Lebanese citizens who were granted the document as far as I know. A few months later, I visited the United States of America for the first time ever.

On my second visit, the border control officer said his system “couldn’t process” me, so I was taken into another room where, an hour and another interrogation later, I was permitted entry to come into the US to do my medical residency interviews. This happened again on my third entry, with longer waiting times. Entering the US has been the most invasive thing to my being, and I’ve survived medical school.

It’s also what has been happening to many of my colleagues and friends: doctors, scientists, researchers, humans. Just because they were unfortunate enough to be born in countries that are not worthy of enough of having their citizens treated with the minimum of human decency. I can tell you stories about physicians who were kept in those rooms for four hours, waiting for who knows what. It’s never easy to sit there and not know what’s going to happen to you, just because you dared seek entry of a foreign country that you’ve already been thoroughly vetted to be given a visa to.

This process that we go through every time we want to come here, that we know we have to willingly subject ourselves to in order for us to visit New York or some monument or even see some extended family is, apparently, not “rigorous” enough.

Refugees:

For a refugee to be granted entry to the United States, they must first apply through the UNHCR, which conducts its own interviews and documentation collection process. Those selected for re-settlement in the United States have their files referred to the State Department which puts the refugee through screening by the National Counterterrorism Center, the FBI and DHS. More anti-fraud agencies come into play later as well as the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration services (USCIS), which interviews the refugees, fingerprints them, and runs those fingerprints through the FBI, DHS and Department of Defense.

If a refugee passes through all of that, they are given health screenings to make sure they’re not bringing in any diseases to the US, while being enrolled in cultural orientation classes as they wait, while their information is checked constantly against terrorist databases. On September 15th, 2016, the US House of Representatives also voted to add further screening steps that require the FBI director to sign off on every single refugee.

Over the past 15 years, the United States, also the world’s third largest country in size and population, has re-settled only around 780,000 refugees.
 
We all know that, but the average Trump voter bought into the myth that it's basically an open door policy.

Absolutely correct. These idiots think that people coming over here just get off the plane/boat and boom, they're in. We are SO goddamn stupid and uninformed here, Jesus.
 
our government is a total joke

checks and balances my ass

if we somehow come out of this administration without totally fucking everything up, the gop filled congress needs to go
 
Doubt anyone will want to emigrate to the US from now on. If anything it will be the other way around. I think we should have only one criteria for american refugees; if they voted for trump they dont get in and they are deported back.
 
Exactly. Anybody who is saying that we don't already go to extraordinary measures to clear refugees clearly has never actually familiarized themselves with the process.
I don't think they would care tbh. All they need to know is that brown people and Muslims are getting in so clearly there's an issue with the process.
 
FYI, it takes over 2 years for a refugee to the make to the US as it stands because of the screening process. See New York Times

Why It Takes Two Years for
Syrian Refugees to Enter the U.S.

By HAEYOUN PARK and LARRY BUCHANAN NOV. 20, 2015

Syrians must pass many layers of security checks before being admitted to the United States, a process that can take two years or longer. In most cases, the refugees do not enter the United States until the very end. They are also subject to an additional layer of checks beyond those for refugees of other nationalities; after the Paris attacks, the House voted to further tighten screening procedures. Since 2011, the United States has admitted fewer than 2,000 Syrian refugees.

1. Registration with the United Nations.

2. Interview with the United Nations.

3. Refugee status granted by the United Nations.

4. Referral for resettlement in the United States.

The United Nations decides if the person fits the definition of a refugee and whether to refer the person to a country for resettlement. Only the most vulnerable are referred, accounting for fewer than 1 percent of refugees worldwide. Some people spend years waiting in refugee camps.

5. Interview with State Department contractors.

6. First background check.

7. Higher-level background check for some.

8. Another background check.

The refugee's name is run through law enforcement and intelligence databases for terrorist or criminal history. Some go through a higher-level clearance before they can continue. A third background check was introduced in 2008 for Iraqis but has since been expanded to all refugees ages 14 to 65.

9. First fingerprint screening; photo taken.

10. Second fingerprint screening.

11. Third fingerprint screening.

The refugee's fingerprints are screened against F.B.I. and Homeland Security databases, which contain watch list information and past immigration encounters, including if the refugee previously applied for a visa at a United States embassy. Fingerprints are also checked against those collected by the Defense Department during operations in Iraq.

12. Case reviewed at United States immigration headquarters.

13. Some cases referred for additional review.

Syrian applicants must undergo these two additional steps. Each is reviewed by a United States Citizenship and Immigration Services refugee specialist. Cases with "national security indicators" are given to the Homeland Security Department's fraud detection unit.

14. Extensive, in-person interview with Homeland Security officer.

Most of the interviews with Syrians have been done in Jordan and Turkey.

15. Homeland Security approval is required.

If the House bill becomes law, the director of the F.B.I., the Homeland Security secretary and the director of national intelligence would be required to confirm that the applicant poses no threat.

16. Screening for contagious diseases.

17. Cultural orientation class.

18. Matched with an American resettlement agency.

19. Multi-agency security check before leaving for the United States.

Because of the long amount of time between the initial screening and departure, officials conduct a final check before the refugee leaves for the United States.

20. Final security check at an American airport.
 
We all know that, but the average Trump voter bought into the myth that it's basically an open door policy.

It absolutely enrages me how Republicans are able to shift conversations on this sort of shit. They ignore what's actually happening and then pretend when liberals protest that it's because they don't want to do it. "Why wouldn't you vet refugees," they question. "Why shouldn't we crack down on welfare fraud?" they ask.

Somehow we skip the entire conversation about what we're already doing and no one seems to give a fuck.
 
I would be interested to see exactly what he means by "extreme vetting" but knowing where immigrants come from and what their affiliations are is not a bad thing. The language is so vague that its hard to get worked up about until the details come out.



Waiting in customs and having to apply for a Visa is "humilitating"? I have been "detained" going through other countries customs on a few occasions too, I never found it to be "humilitating".
 
All these executive orders can be removed easily by the next sane president, right?

Well yeah, but we have a long way to go before that happens, even if he gets impeached we end up with Pence. Though I would like to think he wouldn't be this out of control as Trump seems to be.
 
I'm seriously expecting everyone coming into the country who isn't white and upper class to be asked if they support Trump.
Is this like that troll who asks people "his questions three" before allowing them to pass over his bridge?
Except, this time, all of the riddles will be along the lines of "do you agree that President Trump's inauguration crowd size was the largest of all-time?"
 
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