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Lilalaunebaer
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is it that hard to say "viertel vor" or "viertel nach"?
the heck is a "viertel drei"?
"Viertel drei" = 02:15 or 14:15. It´s how people say it in Vienna. Don´t know about Germany.
"Viertel vor" - for expamble Viertel vor 2 = drei viertel 2.
"Viertel nach" is viertel nach.
I´m at work, and bored.
Nicht ausschließlich. BaWü und Pfalz reden auch so.
is it that hard to say "viertel vor" or "viertel nach"?
the heck is a "viertel drei"?
you also say halb 3 and not halb vor 3 oder halb nach 2
Schlimm. Niedersächsisches Hochdeutsch ftw.
Schatz das ist doch gar nicht das was dich stört.
Dich stört das ich sage "es ist Dreiviertel 4" wenn es 15:45 ist
The_Super_Inframan
"the journey to a thousand games ends with bad rats. ~Lao Tzu" ~Gabe Newell
I know
it's a regional thing again... I have no problem with "drei viertel <insert number>", thats easy to get... but just saying "viertel <insert number>" just leads to confusion imo... way to imprecise for our german pünktlichkeit, was da alles passieren könnte wenn die leute aneinander vorbei reden!
good point actually...hhmmm
and it's still Das Nutella, you Die people are nuts
Schatz das ist doch gar nicht das was dich stört.
Dich stört das ich sage "es ist Dreiviertel 4" wenn es 15:45 ist
Das klingt ja auch total furchtbar. xD
Learning German is doable. I've done it! Austrian German no less (aka best German)
With all the fun that comes with learning dialect words on top of everything else.
Häferl = Tasse
Faschiertes = Hackfleisch
Semmel = Brötchen
Mahlzeit = Guten Appetit
Sackerl = Tüte
Paradeiser = Tomate
And so on, and so forth...
As I sense this thread got somewhat derailed I could offer the OP (or anyone else) some tips if they need them... Had a damn good teacher for German grammar as I was learning this stuff.
With all the fun that comes with learning dialect words on top of everything else.
Häferl = Tasse
Faschiertes = Hackfleisch
Semmel = Brötchen
Mahlzeit = Guten Appetit
Sackerl = Tüte
Paradeiser = Tomate
And so on, and so forth...
As I sense this thread got somewhat derailed I could offer the OP (or anyone else) some tips if they need them... Had a damn good teacher for German grammar as I was learning this stuff.
Yup.
OP, I'm sorry. Whenever German-speaking people come together, their discussions get out of control over Brötchen/Pfannkuchen/Nutella/...
If you have any further questions about learning this mindfuck of a language, don't hesitate.
Also: I am not quite a native German, but I was being raised with Hochdeutsch and I don't speak my actual native language very well (indeed very heavy dialectic Polish).
Schatz das ist doch gar nicht das was dich stört.
Dich stört das ich sage "es ist Dreiviertel 4" wenn es 15:45 ist
Honey, stop the madness ;_;
My brain is confused nonetheless with Dreiviertel.
Bots are better than you
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Acutally, we're only doing this to transport the mentality of us germans to the OP, that he/she better understands why our language is so complex, hard and over-accurate, because we need it to be like this, because we are discussing even the smallest things in an over-accurate, finicky way.
You must understand why we need words like Fernbusbahnhofinformationsschalter. ^^
You must understand why we need words like Fernbusbahnhofinformationsschalter. ^^
Herr Professor, wir müssen uns mal unterhalten. Verspotte nicht den badischen Dialekt, den Geburtsort von Wein, Weib und Gesang! >:[
;]
It's not easy though, the voices are all wrong and you end up trying to re-interpret the jokes you already know instead of absorbing the language.
I have the delights of Schweizerdeutsch locally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QK9wqcf4Y4
Maedre
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The only true version of german!
GlamFM
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It worked the other way around for me though.
Yeah English is definitely difficult in part because we've so liberally adopted from immigrant languages. We've also still got that legacy of the Norman conquest with a lot of our word roots as well.
Honestly I've been enjoying Duolingo over Rosetta Stone because it seems more logically focused on basics, rather than teaching me how to describe a house like I'm going to be a German realtor first-thing (thank god you taught me spülbecken before how to say I'm sorry). It also explains grammar to you, whereas Rosetta Stone expects you'll pick it up from trial-and-error.
And yeah, four months of my subpar language learning was enough to get me through minor interactions without anyone having to just switch to English, so that was my minor victory when I traveled there
I keep tabs on the GermanGAF thread so one day I might understand enough to pop in
Do you mean watching the original show in a non-native language after seeing it dubbed and learning from it?
GlamFM
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I improved my English by watching shows I already knew in German.
DieNgamers
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It's so easy. You say "Es ist halb 9", not "Es ist halb nach 8". Why not "Viertel 8" and "Dreiviertel 8", then?
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
Alles klar (oder Klar?).
I know some Germans that learned English from obscure UK comedy due to them living near UK air bases that broadcast things like Bread & Dave Allen back in the 80s.
Nope, here in BW, at least in our region, they say it like that, too^^ Always confused the hell out of me, though. I just say "Viertel vor/nach".
helloresolven
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If you want a good grammar book, I personally liked Deutsche Wiederholungsgrammatik: A Morpho-Syntactic Review of German -- http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300124686/?tag=neogaf0e-20. Buy it used, of course.
Bedameister
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is it that hard to say "viertel vor" or "viertel nach"?
the heck is a "viertel drei"?
Everything went just according to Keikaku
And here's the fitting picture
I'm living right at the border of purple to blue. We have a lot of discussions about that topic
Palculator
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Viertel ab zehn?!
It's so easy. You say "Es ist halb 9", not "Es ist halb nach 8". Why not "Viertel 8" and "Dreiviertel 8", then?
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
wir sind nun beste freunde.
Freeza Under The Shower
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So you mean read the clock like a regular person?
(same system applies in Dutch)
edit: I am somewhat surprised how much I can still understand in this thread though. Understanding spoken language would be different of course, but that's nothing like French in writing versus how it's spoken (a horrible, horrible speed bump that you're not prepared for in any way).
(same system applies in Dutch)
edit: I am somewhat surprised how much I can still understand in this thread though. Understanding spoken language would be different of course, but that's nothing like French in writing versus how it's spoken (a horrible, horrible speed bump that you're not prepared for in any way).
"Viertel über zehn" ist ja wohl noch bescheuerter.
Maedre
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Whenever i am in the Netherlands, I can read and understand quiet enough to feel secure, but if you start to talk....oh boy, thats another story
It's so easy. You say "Es ist halb 9", not "Es ist halb nach 8". Why not "Viertel 8" and "Dreiviertel 8", then?
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
Very nice! Will steal this for further educational purposes.
Everything went just according to Keikaku
And here's the fitting picture
I'm living right at the border of purple to blue. We have a lot of discussions about that topic
But.. But i never heard of viertel über zehn before, even though i live here. It's a lie! Everything is a lie! There's just the viertel elf, which is obviously the only correct phrase.
Fixed. Please, how can you even think of putting our pure and superior words in an equivalent with this.. degrading and humiliating vocabulary.
I will at max. accept some kind of reasoning behind those.. ok no.
Edit: no one saw those typos
Look.
A quarter pizza is a quarter 11.
With 10:15, 10 is gone. (already full!)
We already have a quarter 11.
Because of this, viertel elf.
Palculator
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They knew what they were in for, it's German, after all ( ≖‿≖
Oh, no, I'm still here. Taking notes. How could be scared away by a language like this:
Reminds me of when I first heard of the Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz. Which is apparently repealed now? Too bad. Never have I wanted to to learn a language more than when I learned about German compound words.
Palculator
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Yup, it's great. Think of it like being able to combine the two parts of "school teacher" into one word "schoolteacher." It's like you have words like "highlight" in English or "policeman" just that you can do it with everything.
And then Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz happens.
German, not even once.
YourMaster
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What people don't realize is that you can also turn any verb into a noun. Making up words is easy.
Yes, that's the best part.
Only in german you can have a Grundstücksverkehrsgenehmigungszuständigkeitsübertragungsverordnung.
Nope.It's so easy. You say "Es ist halb 9", not "Es ist halb nach 8". Why not "Viertel 8" and "Dreiviertel 8", then?
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
It's so easy. You say "Es ist halb 9", not "Es ist halb nach 8". Why not "Viertel 8" and "Dreiviertel 8", then?
A "dreiviertel" Pizza:
Just imagine your clock being a pizza. Works with "viertel" or "halb", too.
Warum sagen wir nicht gleich "75% 9".
I'm in for introducing the new percentage based time saying:
25% past 10
50% 12
75% before 11
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