MaximumSpider
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A gen typically lasts 3 years. This gen just started and we only got one pair of games. Hell, the anime only has 15 episodes. Expect more gen VII.
Tsunekazu Ishihara talks Pokémon on Switch (ToyoKeizai Online Interview)
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Agent Unknown
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Statements like this are just dumb though and shouldn't be tolerated at this point, acting like Switch might be better suited to one of the side series just because of the hybrid/portable/home nature of the system is ridiculous.
ArchedThunder
Banned
So you expect him to announce an unannounced game randomly in an interview?
@JoeM86
Your translation has this line, "as well"
but StreetsAhead's translation pretty much just implies they think games designed for Switch specifically is the more favorable for them at the current time.
Which translation is more correct? The one you initially posted seems to imply they might work on a mainline game in a slight way, but StreetsAhead's seems not the case.
Your translation has this line, "as well"
but StreetsAhead's translation pretty much just implies they think games designed for Switch specifically is the more favorable for them at the current time.
Which translation is more correct? The one you initially posted seems to imply they might work on a mainline game in a slight way, but StreetsAhead's seems not the case.
Absolutely not.
Probably StreetsAhead's. Nuance in Japanese is often lost. I checked with three people, all fluent Japanese speakers, all of whom live or have lived in Japan for prolonged times and got varied results
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Lol. Wait it out.
Also, "moving mid-gen is risky" is probably the worst reasoning someone's ever had for keeping Pokémon on old-gen hardware. Risky for who? Pokémon moves units. Period. Nintendo wins, TPC wins.
Also, "moving mid-gen is risky" is probably the worst reasoning someone's ever had for keeping Pokémon on old-gen hardware. Risky for who? Pokémon moves units. Period. Nintendo wins, TPC wins.
The feels like the first gentle comments generally connecting Pokemon and switch. They're acknowledging the switch and that they are thinking about it. That's just to soften you up for when they announce something properly down the line
Risky for fragmenting the userbase due to connectivity issues and so half the userbase is on 3DS and a smaller amount has moved over.
Typically, enhanced versions (Platinum etc.) and sequels (B2W2) have done about half the sales of the main series games that started the generation. Not everyone moves over.
With this, connectivity between Switch and 3DS could be problematic if there's not a solution. The massive difference in online functionality between 3DS and Switch, such as 3DS having Friends through Friend Codes and Switch not makes connectivity a bit tricky.
I know it's easy to drive by and post like that, but when you actually look into the series and the mechanics, it actually makes sense.
This is just bizarre. I mean, they don't have to "change how they make the games". People would play the hell out of a mainline Pokemon game on Switch. He's acting like the idea of someone coming home from a long flight / train ride where they have been playing Pokemon, then flopping out on the sofa and continuing from exactly where they left off on their big TV is some kind of weird concept which could never work.
I don't understand why we're getting these odd, tortured reasons. Obviously he wasn't going to announce a new mainline entry into the series in a random interview, but he could quite easily have said something like "we are very interested in the Switch as a piece of hardware, however we have nothing to announce at this time."
That wouldn't have been hard. Instead they come out with stuff like "well it's got higher specs than we're used to" - big deal? "because it's a home console as well as a handheld we will have to totally change the way we make the game" - really? Why?
I'd love one of the interviewers to properly press them on it. WHY, exactly, is the game being on a hybrid system like Switch such a big deal that it would force them to make a totally different type of game? What are the exact, specific reasons. Don't take vague "well we originally meant them to be about battling and trading and played on the move" statement as an answer because we all know that it's rubbish - that may have been their intention but there's no reason, with the advent of a thing called the internet and the fact that the Switch is a handheld as well, that a mainline Pokemon game couldn't work on it, from a mechanical PoV.
RichiRamjag
Member
I don't give a shit about any of that. I'm getting a switch and I'd like to see a mainline game on it. Simple as that. 3DS screen looks like someone smeared Vaseline all over it. Not touching another 3ds game.
This is 100% sure
Question is if it will be also on switch with higher resolution assets
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Fucking hell
I expected a mainline pokemon game on switch to be already on development or close to completion now.
They have to be trolling and are gonna surprise everyone.
This would literally be the worst switch news possible. A mainline pokemon seems like a no brainer, a shortcut to this thing being a success.
I expected a mainline pokemon game on switch to be already on development or close to completion now.
They have to be trolling and are gonna surprise everyone.
This would literally be the worst switch news possible. A mainline pokemon seems like a no brainer, a shortcut to this thing being a success.
OrbitalBeard
Member
There's going to be a mainline Pokemon game on Switch, regardless of what this man is saying publicly.
AuthenticM
Member
not really. Just keep refining the formula.
What The Forest Taught Me
Member
Indeed. People seem to be reacting to this really strangely
What The Forest Taught Me
Member
Exactly.
I can't blame them especially when they are spouting bullshit.
Pokémon is a series that is predominantly about battling and trading with others.
Yes, you can do that online, but you can do that online with a portable as well. Until the Switch, there was no way to continue the portable aspect which is what made Pokémon so big, and what continues to push the franchise.
That's why there haven't been home console games. It would have brought no benefits, just look prettier, have a bigger budget, and lose a huge part of what makes Pokémon Pokémon. Now Switch exists, that can change.
Agent Unknown
Member
No. Obviously. The point is a simple, more common sense statement like "We have plans for Switch and are excited for the possibilities that it will offer Pokémon but have nothing that we can announce currently" would be far better than making a long winded, dodgy and non-commital response where he waffles on the nature of the Switch vs the various series. If I was a suit at NCL I'd be on the phone right now talking with them about that answer, they are one of Nintendo's largest partners and properties with a 33% part ownership stake by NCL. At this point it should be made clear to them by NCL that they should not be making statements acting like "Hey, ya know, we want to put Pokémon on Switch but ya know, it's also kind of a home system and has an HD screen so I dunno....maybe one of the spin off series! We'll see!" It's kinda crappy PR for the Switch, really and also continues the Pokemon Company's well earned image of being a stubborn, cheap, and inflexible company.
I would worry if when we reach E3 is not announced a new Pokémon title. But not now.
I would expect a Direct in March or May.
You do know they have said they're developing for Switch before, right?
RichiRamjag
Member
How I feel in a nutshell. It created a negative tone imo. People shouldn't even have to question whether or not this is coming to the switch.
MaximumSpider
Banned
What lol?
If anything there will probably be a game for 3DS this year and maybe a break next year with a new game on Switch in 2019. I'm not 100% on it because that would be a long wait for the next game on new hardware but the same happened with XY and 3DS.
XY got ORAS, it's the same "Mega" gen despite it being a remake
I wouldn't blame them for moving on to the next gen in 2018 but I'd like to see SM on Switch, the game deserves it and prepares what can be Pokémon with the Switch. It won't have BOTW's scope but there is huge potential
It's quite common to have a year of no releases. I wouldn't start spouting doom yet
Red & Green. Released 1996. Next game, Yellow, released 1998. 1997 was a year off
Gold & Silver. Released 1999. Next game, Crystal, released 2000. 2001 was year off.
Ruby & Sapphire. Released 2002. Next game, FireRed & LeafGreen and Emerald, were both released in 2004. Both 2003 and 2005 were years off
Diamond & Pearl. Released 2006. Next game, Platinum, was released in 2008. 2007 was a year off
Black & White. Released 2010. Next game, Black 2 & White 2, was released in 2012. 2011 was a year off
X & Y. Released 2013. Next game, Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire, was released in 2014. 2015 was a year off.
4 of the 6 prior generations took a year off after starting a generation. It's probable to happen again
Agent Unknown
Member
Yes. That's part of the point of why that is obviously a dumb and poorly worded statement for them to make.
SinCityAssassin
Member
Gotta keep those 3DS unit sales going.
ToysAndMoreClub
Member
I may be looking at this the wrong way, but, couldn't they use the same assets as Pokken Tournament for a possible Pokémon Stars (Elipse) game on Switch?
No. For one thing, that's 16 Pokémon out of 802.
The current Pokémon assets are suitable for 1080p gaming anyway. That's why they run badly on the 3DS
ArchedThunder
Banned
The models in Sun and Moon are already HD ready.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Please no
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
GF is usually late to release on a new console, I'm not surprised or concerned by these comments.
RichiRamjag
Member
Wasn't that guy who made the Pokémon ark mod using assets from the game? They scaled pretty well as is. Tbh, it's what got me so hungry for a switch Pokémon version.
Cynn
Member
Amen. There is absolutely nothing fundamental about the core Pokémon series that makes it unsuitable for a console experience.
I've never seen you comment on whether the Stars rumor from Eurogamer is real or not. Do you have any information we don't?
LOLThe current engine would look and run well on Switch
It's done by Game Freak, you know it won't run well.
if he did, would he tell you that he did?
Except that higher resolution and stronger hardware does require them to "change nature" a bit to up the ante as a Pokemon experience.
Basically it's coming but they not saying anything yet.
Something something I don't respond to rumors and speculation lol.
Something something I don't respond to rumors and speculation lol.
Things could be shaken up with the Switch though, they don't always follow patterns (ORAS was released 1 year after XY as you stated)
I wouldn't expect it this year though, it would fit perfectly in February/March 2018 before the end of the fiscal year (this or Pokkén if it's still has potential?)
IMO theyve been working on whatever title is coming out on the Switch since before Sun/Moon. Not to mention they developed from gen 6 onward with an HD future in mind, which I applaud them for. I think we could easily see another game this year. The question is whether or not GF is incentivized to release on the Switch earlier than usual. It would, after all, be in GF's best interest that the platform sells well.
Na, if a game is to come out, they'd aim it for the autumn without a doubt for a variety of reasons including how they market new Pokémon stuff in Japan. If there isn't one this year, then it won't be until towards the end of next year