"Turkey asks Germany to prosecute comedian over Erdoan poem"

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Maedre said:
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right next to the turkish embassy :D
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Perfect.And I'm saying this as a citizen of Turkey.
 
The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.
 
Ether_Snake said:
The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.
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What exactly are you talking about?
 
Ether_Snake said:
The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.
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I think if anything he'll be mocked and ridiculed even more. In a satirical manner of course.
 
Ether_Snake said:
The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.
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It seems to have had the opposite effect.
 
Frankfurter said:
How so? Say Erdogan loses in a year and all that time Erdogan is in the press for being a fool. How is that a win for Erdogan? He is being attacked left and right, even US comedy shows now have him on their radar and make (more) fun of him. If anything, this shows that Erdogan is a fool.
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Because this shouldn't even have went this far. I understand that there is a law on the books that makes this type of thing "illegal" but even if in a year the courts throw it out, it's still appeasing Erdogan for the simple fact that it even considered it.

US comedy shows are making fun of him (as they should) but everyone in government repeats the same talking point ("Turkey is our ally") ad nauseum. The US and the German politiks look silly defending this clown.

But make no mistake, the fact that they're doing everything to entertain his little tantrum is definitely a victory for him, or at the very least, his ego.
 
The German journalist who wanted to enter turkey yesterday has now returned to Egypt. At least some media speculate that is Erdogan's revenge for Merkel's criticism last week.
 
spekkeh said:
AFAIW in Germany the judiciary is not fully independent from the executive branch: http://home.broadpark.no/~wkeim/files/separation_of_powers.htm
and the Chancellor is kind of both in the executive and legislative branch?
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Well you are wrong with the judicative. There is no interference or influence and the independence of the judicative is a constitutional principle

And the chancellor is elected by parliament so yes there is a certain mix of legislative and executive going on but thats not completely unheard of.
 
Shiggy said:
Next lawsuit incoming?

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Cover of a satire magazine in Germany: "Erdogan stressed: Now even his penis stages a coup!"
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Titanic. Never seen a magazine that varies that much in quality. Sometimes they are just amazing. Sometimes they are just utter garbage.

Shiggy said:
In a turn of events, Erdogan now criticisms Germany for a lack of freedom of expression lol
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Ah, the renowned "No U!" defense
 
Fantastapotamus said:
Titanic. Never seen a magazine that varies that much in quality. Sometimes they are just amazing. Sometimes they are just utter garbage.
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It seems they don't give a fuck. They keep pulling those jokes out of their asses until that one gold nugget comes out.

And man, some of their covers are made for eternity
 
Fritz said:
It seems they don't give a fuck. They keep pulling those jokes out of their asses until that one gold nugget comes out.

And man, some of their covers are made for eternity
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Yupp, I mean... This is a classic:

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The erdogan cover seems to be a cheap bait.
 
NyMartin90 said:
Turkey's Erdogan to drop lawsuits against people who insulted him
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On topic, this doesn't apply to this particular case, lawsuits outside of Turkey will remain active. Still, that's a whopping 800 or so court cases, not bad. Gotta lighten the load on those handful of remaining judges, huh. ;)
 
The prosecution announced that the case will not go to court. They said that a president acting like Erdogan needs to cope with such satire. The prosecution says it is very evident that the comments are not meant serious at all.

There's still a lawsuit going on where Erdogan tries to ban further publishing of the poem.
 
i havent tracked this story but... he doesnt come off as very resilient suing people in other countries
 
Shiggy said:
The prosecution announced that the case will not go to court. They said that a president acting like Erdogan needs to cope with such satire. The prosecution says it is very evident that the comments are not meant serious at all.

There's still a lawsuit going on where Erdogan tries to ban further publishing of the poem.
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Lol.
 
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