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[vaderise]

right next to the turkish embassy

Perfect.And I'm saying this as a citizen of Turkey.

 

[Ether_Snake]

The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.

 

[Frankfurter]

The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.

What exactly are you talking about?

 

[EdwardTivrusky]

The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.

I think if anything he'll be mocked and ridiculed even more. In a satirical manner of course.

 

[spekkeh]

Huh?

AFAIW in Germany the judiciary is not fully independent from the executive branch: http://home.broadpark.no/~wkeim/files/separation_of_powers.htm
and the Chancellor is kind of both in the executive and legislative branch?

 

[Palculator]

The fact is this lawsuit already had the intended effect: many journalists and even people in general will be careful when criticizing Turkey or Erdogan out of fear of dealing with a lawsuit. That's the very reason this guy is getting sued. So the self-censorship is already being applied.

It seems to have had the opposite effect.

 

[Shiggy]

Meanwhile, a German journalist has been detained in Turkey today.

 

[NeoRausch]

Well, there it is! John Oliver chimed in!
https://youtu.be/CXJtrCcuv6o


Edit:
Und Jan, wir vermissen dich! Komm bald wieder!
https://youtu.be/xbwZtFQOY2w

 

[NeoRausch]

Whoop, dp! Sorry!

 

[FreedomFighter]

How so? Say Erdogan loses in a year and all that time Erdogan is in the press for being a fool. How is that a win for Erdogan? He is being attacked left and right, even US comedy shows now have him on their radar and make (more) fun of him. If anything, this shows that Erdogan is a fool.

Because this shouldn't even have went this far. I understand that there is a law on the books that makes this type of thing "illegal" but even if in a year the courts throw it out, it's still appeasing Erdogan for the simple fact that it even considered it.

US comedy shows are making fun of him (as they should) but everyone in government repeats the same talking point ("Turkey is our ally") ad nauseum. The US and the German politiks look silly defending this clown.

But make no mistake, the fact that they're doing everything to entertain his little tantrum is definitely a victory for him, or at the very least, his ego.

 

[Shiggy]

The German journalist who wanted to enter turkey yesterday has now returned to Egypt. At least some media speculate that is Erdogan's revenge for Merkel's criticism last week.

 

[Shiggy]

It has been fully recited in the German parliament now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwQlmq68QU&feature=youtu.be

 

[Palculator]

It has been fully recited in the German parliament now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAwQlmq68QU&feature=youtu.be

Rad.

 

[Shiggy]

Next lawsuit incoming?

Cover of a satire magazine in Germany: "Erdogan stressed: Now even his penis stages a coup!"

 

[Dambrosi]

Next lawsuit incoming?

Cover of a satire magazine in Germany: "Erdogan stressed: Now even his penis stages a coup!"

Ahh, those Germans, so obsessed with their sausages.

 

[Palculator]

Ahh, those Germans, so obsessed with their sausages.

Translation of headlines: "Dozens of dead after attack in Afghanistan" "Many dead after train accident in Moscow" "Germans paid too much for sausage"

 

[SporeCrawler]

AFAIW in Germany the judiciary is not fully independent from the executive branch: http://home.broadpark.no/~wkeim/files/separation_of_powers.htm
and the Chancellor is kind of both in the executive and legislative branch?

Well you are wrong with the judicative. There is no interference or influence and the independence of the judicative is a constitutional principle

And the chancellor is elected by parliament so yes there is a certain mix of legislative and executive going on but thats not completely unheard of.

 

[Zatoth]

Next lawsuit incoming?

Cover of a satire magazine in Germany: "Erdogan stressed: Now even his penis stages a coup!"

They should be used to it. Didn't the Vatican sue them a few years ago?

 

[Shiggy]

They should be used to it. Didn't the Vatican sue them a few years ago?

They are very used to it.


In a turn of events, Erdogan now criticisms Germany for a lack of freedom of expression lol

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Next lawsuit incoming?

Cover of a satire magazine in Germany: "Erdogan stressed: Now even his penis stages a coup!"

Titanic. Never seen a magazine that varies that much in quality. Sometimes they are just amazing. Sometimes they are just utter garbage.

In a turn of events, Erdogan now criticisms Germany for a lack of freedom of expression lol

Ah, the renowned "No U!" defense

 

[Fritz]

Titanic. Never seen a magazine that varies that much in quality. Sometimes they are just amazing. Sometimes they are just utter garbage.

It seems they don't give a fuck. They keep pulling those jokes out of their asses until that one gold nugget comes out.

And man, some of their covers are made for eternity

 

[NeoRausch]

It seems they don't give a fuck. They keep pulling those jokes out of their asses until that one gold nugget comes out.

And man, some of their covers are made for eternity

Yupp, I mean... This is a classic:

The erdogan cover seems to be a cheap bait.

 

[Blablurn]

Yupp, I mean... This is a classic:

The erdogan cover seems to be a cheap bait.

lol

 

[NyMartin90]

Turkey's Erdogan to drop lawsuits against people who insulted him
6 hours ago

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36925723

Recep Tayyip Erdogan said he was inspired by the feelings of unity in the wake of the recent failed coup.

Mr Erdogan said at the presidential palace: "I am going to withdraw all the cases regarding the disrespectful insults made against me."

He said it was a one-off gesture of goodwill.

 

[Kinyou]

Turkey's Erdogan to drop lawsuits against people who insulted him
6 hours ago

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36925723

Maybe he finally...

He said it was a one-off gesture of goodwill.

Oh boy

 

[CTLance]

Turkey's Erdogan to drop lawsuits against people who insulted him

On topic, this doesn't apply to this particular case, lawsuits outside of Turkey will remain active. Still, that's a whopping 800 or so court cases, not bad. Gotta lighten the load on those handful of remaining judges, huh.

 

[Caayn]

He said it was a one-off gesture of goodwill.

By saying this you're only making yourself look like a bigger fool if that's even possible.

 

[Shiggy]

The prosecution announced that the case will not go to court. They said that a president acting like Erdogan needs to cope with such satire. The prosecution says it is very evident that the comments are not meant serious at all.

There's still a lawsuit going on where Erdogan tries to ban further publishing of the poem.

 

[m3k]

i havent tracked this story but... he doesnt come off as very resilient suing people in other countries

 

[Funyarinpa]

The prosecution announced that the case will not go to court. They said that a president acting like Erdogan needs to cope with such satire. The prosecution says it is very evident that the comments are not meant serious at all.

There's still a lawsuit going on where Erdogan tries to ban further publishing of the poem.

Lol.