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Turkey PM plans to develop diplomatic relations with Syria

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Turkey has said it wants to develop good ties with Syria - in an apparent reversal of its policy towards its war-stricken neighbour.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36781226
Turkey has long said the only solution for regional peace would be for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to go.
But Turkish PM Binali Yildirim insisted good ties with Syria were needed "for the fight against terrorism" and for stability in the region.

Turkey has recently moved to end rifts with both Russia and Israel.

Separately, French diplomatic missions in Turkey are cancelling their Bastille Day celebrations on 14 July for "security reasons", the consulate general in Istanbul has said.

Turkey-Syria diplomatic ties were severed after the Syrian conflict began in 2011 and Turkey has since argued that only Mr Assad's departure could bring stability.
But Mr Yildirim said in comments broadcast live on television: "It is our greatest and irrevocable goal: developing good relations with Syria and Iraq, and all our neighbours that surround the Mediterranean and the Black Sea.


"We normalised relations with Russia and Israel. I'm sure we will normalise relations with Syria as well. For the fight against terrorism to succeed, stability needs to return to Syria and Iraq."
Since taking office in May, Mr Yildirim has repeatedly said that Turkey needs to "increase its friends and decrease its enemies".


Turkey last month announced the restoration of diplomatic ties with Israel after a six-year break and apologised for shooting down a Russian warplane on the Turkish-Syrian border in November 2015.
Turkey's new initiative comes at a time of great political instability in the country, says the BBC's Katy Watson in Istanbul.

In the past year, Turkey has been hit by a wave of bombings from both Kurdish militants and the so-called Islamic State.
Turkey is also playing host to some 2.7 million Syrian migrants and refugees who have fled the conflict in their homeland.
Some 10% live in more than 20 refugee camps built across Turkey. The rest reside in cities, often in poor conditions.


Seems like Russia made Turkey fully bow down now

Obama and the US are getting cozy with Iran and easing ties with Assad and Turkey who shot down a Russian plane not only is trying to repair ties with Russia but is also trying to make peace with Russia's allies.

Syria is basically now filled with Foreign fighters from all sides that the country literally belongs to no one with ISIS running amok and Assad having his Iranian militias kill thousands and Russian planes bomb more it seems like the waiting game for Assad may pay off.
 

Viewt

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I'm not well-read on the subject, but this is good, right? Turkey seems to have gotten a lot crazier lately, so if this eases tensions and lessens the violence, hopefully it's just the beginning.
 

davepoobond

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I'm not well-read on the subject, but this is good, right? Turkey seems to have gotten a lot crazier lately, so if this eases tensions and lessens the violence, hopefully it's just the beginning.

It's good if you want Assad to stay...

He's not exactly good for Syria though. The fighting is going to continue and more people will die as long as he is in the picture. He kills his own people en masse
 
Assad has shown that his regime is too strong with Russian support and has support in the west of the country to go. He also does show some form of government/ political stability compared to that of the FSA or ISIS. It seems to be the lesser of two evils especially with the FSA rebels losing key areas in the last few months.

This documentary is pretty good and shows life in Assad government-held Syria from Fall 2015.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/inside-assads-syria/

While it seems the Erdogan government has been flip flopping on this issue, seems the recent spike in attacks in Turkey has gotten them to see that supporting ISIS against Assad was a bad move.
 
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Part of this is due to Brexit. The UK was one of the biggest champions of Turkey joining the EU and the UK leaving has severely damaged Turkey's prospects. Accordingly, they are looking for friends in new places.
 

commedieu

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Part of this is due to Brexit. The UK was one of the biggest champions of Turkey joining the EU and the UK leaving has severely damaged Turkey's prospects. Accordingly, they are looking for friends in new places.

That's my read. The second he apologized for the Russian plane.
 
Assad has shown that his regime is too strong with Russian support and has support in the west of the country to go. He also does show some form of government/ political stability compared to that of the FSA or ISIS. It seems to be the lesser of two evils especially with the FSA rebels losing key areas in the last few months.

This documentary is pretty good and shows life in Assad government-held Syria from Fall 2015.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/inside-assads-syria/

While it seems the Erdogan government has been flip flopping on this issue, seems the recent spike in attacks in Turkey has gotten them to see that supporting ISIS against Assad was a bad move.

the FSA have been gaining areas around Aleppo recently but full on take over is unlikely due to being outnumbered and lacking other type of forces

Assad has been losing a ton of soldiers/militias to the point that there was a scuffle between Hezbollah and Assad but the FSA doesn't have a air-force and doesn't have large numbers relative to Assad's ally Iran that just brings wave after wave of militias some of which are Afghan migrants that are fighting in order to gain a Iranian citizenship

they are in experienced but Iran can just toss more and more of them non-stop

On the issue of lesser evil, Assad the man that killed more then 200k of his people and tortured thousands to death while also using things like white sulfur on civilian areas is not lesser in any way at all

the whole notion of oh we can have him if he has his elites party and act westernized while a few km away he massacres others is a twisted sense of logic.

He literally clashed with more then 80% of his country so who the heck will he govern? There is a good reason why his army is mostly made up of foreign militias from Iran/Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
Russia didn't make Turkey do anything...

Erdogan, rightfully, decided to extend an olive branch. I'm not sold on if this is legit or not based on what Yıldırım said just last week. But I guess things could have changed from one week to the next.
 

commedieu

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Seems about right then.

I notice you in these threads a lot. What's your background?
Born and raised in the US of A.

Meanwhile...

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Taken only seven years ago.
 
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