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Twin Peaks Season 3 |OT2| It's Just A Change, Not An End
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Shelly, James, Richard. Anyone else we've seen outside the Roadhouse? Those three are all people she knows, and artists she knows (NIN, PJ). I mean she may not know Richard.
Discotheque
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That ending scene of Yi screaming as the light started strobing (so Laura Palmer esque) as the song played was one of my favorite episode enders ever
In fact I think this season has had the best episode closers in a long time for me. The musical performances (and in other cases soundtrack) with the movie style credits looped over set it apart from everything else. Love it
I made you an mp3 (it's an excerpt from the song "The Red Room" from the original soundtrack): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5zgcGWvV7mJcTRNd096VzlLTGM/view?usp=sharing
Beer Monkey
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James is in (real) jail for a fight at the Roadhouse.
I guess it means Audrey's a big ZZ Top fan as well.
Count Dookkake
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Pretty sure the last time we saw her, Warren Frost was pushing Ben Horne into the fireplace and he cracked his forehead off of the mantle or something like that? I'm sure all the characters and stuff that haven't shown up this season will be in Mark Frost's new book, The Final Dossier.
At the end of season 2 she learned Ben Horne is her biological father. Caused lots of drama, doc Hayward knocked Ben out and it looked pretty serious, stuff like that. But that's about it and Ben is looking just fine unless he's in a dream too.
As for now? James was in a motorcycle accident, and he's quiet now. Clearly Donna is fucking dead.
She probably isn't dead
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It feels weird we got to OT2 literally right before the finale, but is what it is.
Onwards to the last two parts! There probably will be a lot to discuss with the finale and the rest of the series in retrospective, to be fair.
Onwards to the last two parts! There probably will be a lot to discuss with the finale and the rest of the series in retrospective, to be fair.
It does feel weird, but I kind of like it? It getting its very own thread does make the finale feel all the more special.
And yeah, hopefully enough people stick around some after the finale. There'll be plenty to discuss.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
#fordougie
I know many wanted to see Cooper back for so long, and I completely understand as Cooper has always been one of my favorite television protagonist, but I admit I'll miss Dougie and his antics. I started to like them in Part 6 and started to like them more and more as they went on.
The third season has personally cemented the show as my all time favorite tv show, the original series I was pretty sure was my favorite television show for years but the third season has solidified it for me.
plagiarize
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ALL.NO SHE DIDN'T.
DADDY YOU'RE MY DADDY.
Look, I know they all but spelled it out, but since no one ever actually went and confirmed it out loud or with on screen evidence to that effect, I choose (and I think David and Mark may have made a similar choice) just to presume it never happened.
I'm still surprised Donna hasn't been around, particularly since both actresses seem to still be working? Her absence/lack of a mention has felt odd even though I guess no one that was close to her has really been shown in a situation where talking about her would be merited.
If Gersten shows up in the finale given Steven's (likely?) suicide maybe we'll probably get a mention there.
Buttonbasher
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New thread!
It's yrev, very good to see you again, old friends.
It's yrev, very good to see you again, old friends.
friskykillface
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New thread huh
The end is almost near 👀
The end is almost near 👀
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"People are under a lot of stress, Bradley"
amazing
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I mean, I don't see why David and Mark would have made that choice when fucking Wally Brando is a thing, but I guess you can choose to believe that. But just because Ben were to turn out to be her biological father doesn't mean she can't choose to reject him, or you know, end up having two father figures in her life. She was still raised by Will Hayward, it doesn't change that.
I actually feel somewhat strongly about this as someone who never particularly shared a connection with his biological father, lol. But it was an awful plot thread outside of the glorious violence at the end.
Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if it's addressed in the Final Dossier book in some form. Season 3 ain't gonna do it.
iShouldGoPro
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4 pages in and still no
OT 3 HYPE!
OT 3 HYPE!
uncelestial
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It's not that surprising knowing the backstory; the other actors hated working with LFB (well, except Kyle, heh), and she has altered her appearance to the point of being unrecognizable. I guess they could've used the recast Donna from FWWM though...
boredJonathan
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Seriously! When those two characters were introduced, I could never have imagined I'd enjoy them as much as I do now.
Which goes for a lot of this run of the show tbh.
There are still some elements I'm puzzled over, but so much that initially rubbed me the wrong way has become some of my favorite things that I can't even sweat the stuff I'm still puzzled by.
"Oh.
...
Goodbye, my son."
"I am the FBI."
And that one. Some amazing quotes in 16 for sure. I'm especially gonna miss Doppel Coop's weird comedic thing he's got going for him, it's pretty great.
mariachi507
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I haven't given it much thought since the season started, but it's really puzzling why Ontkean decided not to reprise his role after initially being so excited. I know Forster has been a great stand in as his brother, but after just finishing the original series again I need to see the bromance reunited. One of my favorite bits from the finale is Harry waiting outside of Glastonbury Cove.
To me it feels like they're sorta ignoring it, or otherwise I'd have expected something about Ben's injury at least to be in Secret History given that it did address several other things that happened immediately after the finale. Which... still doesn't actually make that much sense given the actual premise of the book, but still.
I really wonder what the Final Dossier will even be. I just sent something in to Twin Peaks Rewatch along these lines, but- the show hasn't really done anything with the explicit backstory changes in Secret History; even Annie apparently no longer being Norma's sister isn't addressed at all, nor has the change in Nadine and Ed's relationship timeline likely removing the amnesia situation been given as the reason that he and Norma still weren't together till now. There are things the show implicitly backs up (Becky seemingly works/worked at the bakery tied to the Double R?), and it's referenced some of the wider town backstory with Wally Brando and Hawk, but I don't get the point of it otherwise.
Similarly, wih Secret History intentionally introducing Tammy as a character... the show really hasn't ever shown her reacting to anything specifically as someone who'd read about it before but was skeptic of it (beyond the tulpa Diane, I guess, but even that was all in-show)? And they never mention the dossier at all in connection to Briggs. I feel like this just shows that we haven't really learned much about Tammy in the show, which makes me think we'll probably just her take on things in the Final Dossier as notes again.
I guess the point here is that Secret History maybe wasn't even intended to directly connect to season 3, but... by itself it just mostly contains boring UFO stuff and then those retcons/explanations (...some of which have inconsistent dates, even internally), so that makes it less satisfying in retrospect.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
The only people who'll know are Lynch, Frost, and Ontkean himself, but yeah it's a sham we won't see then reunited proper.
I do look forward to Coop interacting with the sheriff's department gain, though.
<3 <3 Thank you so much! Will def be using this.
Looking into it now- huh, I'd just read the thing about her being the reason Audrey didn't date Coop earlier today, but I guess her name in that didn't click (it wasn't mentioned that she was Donna's actress) even after I looked up if either actress was still acting a few hours later.
They're ignoring it, but they're also ignoring Donna in general. So yeah. It's weird.
Secret History was originally announced as something that would bridge the 25 year gap way more than it ended up doing, being more about... the history, so I think the assumption has been that the Final Dossier will end up covering more of that sort of stuff. I don't know what has been announced about it though, maybe that's confirmed already. Maybe it's supposed to be something else entirely.
Regarding the inconsistencies, I'm sure some of the minor ones are genuine mistakes, but I've been under the impression that the big stuff like Annie is more of an unreliable narrator sort of deal? That's also the impression I get from whenever Mark Frost has been asked about that stuff. I don't find that aspect of it particularly enjoyable though, whatever it's supposed to mean. But personally I don't think the contradictions are retcons, season 3 certainly hasn't done anything to support that view to me.
I still ended up liking that book a whole lot more than I thought I would though, to the point that I'm rather looking forward to the second one. At the very least the way it's put together is pretty lovely.
ElectricBlanketFire
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4 pages in and still no
OT 3 HYPE!
My wife and I cheered. What a moment.
Gozer the Gozerian
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I can't wait for One Punch Man to punch someone's face off while protecting Naido. Mr. C's?
ElectricBlanketFire
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Hey guys, I watched 5 minutes of the first episode and tuned in for the the finale. WHAT THE FUCK Dr. Jacoby hit some blackface guy with a shovel?!?!?!
0/10. Worst show ever.
HashtagLapsed
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Its funny. It feels like episode 17 and 18 will be what a lot of people expected the series to begin with.
Death Metalist
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That new thread smell! reposting this for the new thread
He'll punch off Mr. C's face only to reveal Dick Tremayne's underneath. Believe.
i refuse to believe a show can be anything but a 100/10 when that scene happens. it's simple math
Discotheque
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That new thread smell! reposting this for the new thread
was totally expecting a thumbs up there.
Intheflorsh
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Can I just say I love the fact Coop took the time to shake Bushnell's hand before he rushed off? Cooper's respect and appreciation of human decency is the best thing about that character.
Death Metalist
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"You're a fine man, Bushnell Mullins. I will not soon forget your kindness and decency."
This is why Kyle Maclachlan deserves all the awards. He plays every character so distinctly just from the way he moves, his mannerisms and using only his eyes.
e: Rewatched that part again for the 10th time and man, it's perfection. Just the Mitchum Brothers excitement about what Dougie is up to next as the theme plays at the exact right moment. Ugh, absolutely floored everytime.
Well, it does mirror an old scene.
Dusk Golem
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I'm kind of expecting it to go in a very weird direction knowing Lynch, but we shall see.
darkwing-buck
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