Twitch: Changes To Audio In VODS

This pretty much guarantees I'm never streaming on Twitch again because my streams are almost always of music games with licensed music.
 
Remember when we all said this was going to happen if the Google buyout happened and some people were insistent that it wouldn't? Yeah, good times. This totally fucks a lot of the streams I watch actually, virtually everything not tournament related.

CrunchyFrog said:
So why not live broadcasts? What's the difference? The infringement doesn't matter as long as said infringment is still ongoing? What if I just never go off air?
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I'd guess it's a tech issue and that this service can't scan live content, only completed videos.
 
This was inevitable, I just hope there aren't too many abuses and false flags, and that devs/pubs will do what they can to whitelist tracks in their games.
 
Goodbye streams with video games that have 3rd party music like Need for Speed. In one fell swoop they will fall and all games with custom playlists.
 
Deleting past broadcasts first so they don't have to scan it all for copyrighted music.

Not scanning live broadcasts yet because the backlash would be tremendous.

They will ease people into this and eventually it will be like YouTube
 
This is actually worse than Content ID. Not sure this is related to Google, surely Google would use Content ID's infrastructure. More an issue of them going more corporate I assume?
 
I can understand why they are doing to this, but they could have been cool about it and instead of muting the sound how about having an overlay that appears on the video with a link to the YouTube video or something?

Having watched lots of Twitch in the past few years, there are always people asking for playlists/current songs.
 
CrunchyFrog said:
So why not live broadcasts? What's the difference? The infringement doesn't matter as long as said infringment is still ongoing? What if I just never go off air?
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Probably some combination of needing different technologies to scan live vs. recorded content, and record labels being a lot more concerned with people being able to play back music at a whim.
 
Time for hitbox.tv to shine.

Twitch..
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CrunchyFrog said:
So why not live broadcasts? What's the difference? The infringement doesn't matter as long as said infringment is still ongoing? What if I just never go off air?
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Technical difficulties, possibly? More difficult to actively scan it as it's being streamed?
 
Tom Nook Sawyer said:
This part's important guys:

"We are not scanning live broadcasts and there is no automated takedown of live content."
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I wouldn't be surprised if that happened, eventually.

In the past two days we've seen the end of Justin.tv, the end of long term VOD storage, and this music content stuff. We'll see what else happens over the next weeks and months.
 
And there were people in the other thread saying that Google's awful recent changes to Youtube shouldn't be taken into account Twitch because it wouldn't happen here. Yeah.... about that....

I give it a 6 months to 1 year before they expand that shit either further until it basically mirrors their existing content ID system.
 
We're gonna get to a point where someone's ringtone goes off as they get a call and SWAT jumps through the windows and knocks down their doors.
 
Orayn said:
Probably some combination of needing different technologies to scan live vs. recorded content, and record labels being a lot more concerned with people being able to play back music at a whim.
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So not a case of "Oh live broadcasts are totes fine you just don't have on demand playing rights, akin to Spotify", just "your inevitable doom is still waiting in the wings." Yep, that makes me feel much better.

But seriously though, in regards to the latter, exactly how much of a market do they REALLY think they'll lose to random clips of said music being played in the background of a videogame while most likely being also commentated over by a random person off the internet? Is that really going to significantly undermine iTunes sales? It seems like a textbook definition of legal overreach and I for one would love to see someone taken to court over this.
 
I didn't actually think they would implement something like this on Twitch. Many Twitch streams are like a group of people hanging out just to relax and music is often a part of that. At least we still have live streams but I wonder if Twitch is eventually going to pressure Nightbot to remove music request.

It's unfortunate that most of the streams I follow that moved to Hitbox ended up moving back to Twitch. Hitbox needs more publicity and viewer support before many streamers feel it's worth migrating over.
 
And so it begins. All our fears from the Google buyout are slowly coming true.

I also got an email today about Twitch allowing past broadcasts to be saved forever. Instead you'll need to highlight them or upload them to YouTube. Highlights will be limited to 2 hours and all past (non-highlighted) broadcasts will be deleted in 3 weeks. Not too happy about that.
 
This has been a long time coming. Playing copyrighted music behind streams has always been a bad idea. Somehow streamers think they have the right to be exempt from copyright law.

P.S. If Hitbox or anyone else ever intends to get really big, these same rules will likely happen there as well.
 
Azure Phoenix said:
And there were people in the other thread saying that Google's awful recent changes to Youtube shouldn't be taken into account Twitch because it wouldn't happen here. Yeah.... about that....
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I have serious doubts that Google would be able to implement something like this so quickly after taking over.
 
Welp, time for the gaming community to find a new site to use. I like to think we're all smart enough to make this transition pretty quickly and painlessly, right?
 
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